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| Re: Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103784 is a reply to message #103779] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 11:50   |
roy1
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Sure looks like a 49-50 Merc too me. That is a rare car I can't remember the last time I saw a Merc woody of that vintage and it is pristine.
Roy
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103786 is a reply to message #103784] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 12:01 |
Dennis S
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| roy1 wrote on Fri, 22 October 2010 11:50 |
Sure looks like a 49-50 Merc too me. That is a rare car I can't remember the last time I saw a Merc woody of that vintage and it is pristine.
Roy
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Roy
My post may have been worded pooly -- I emailed you a copy of the photo we are trying to ID.
Thank you for your help.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103789 is a reply to message #103779] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 12:18 |
James Hupy
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I believe that it is a mixture of 49-50-51 pieces with the lions share being
1950. It has aftermarket sunvisor, foglamps, fenderskirts and some very
extensive reshaping of the bumpers. I am not sure of the pass side rearview
mirror either. That being said, The Oldsmobile/Cadillac air cleaner housing
looks right at home in there. It is a really well done car and lots of $ was
invested, particularly in the wood parts. IIRC the stock hubcaps had mercury
logos in them too. My wife Mary would probably trade me and our GMC for it,
it is her all time favorite car. Very nicely done project.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>wrote:
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> Off GMC topic but as we have a lot of car enthusiasts ..
> Can anyone able to help ID and old woody station wagon? The photo is
> intended for publication and the author is trying to confirm the model. I
> believe it is a 1950 Mercury but would appreciate any input. I can email the
> photo direct (tried unsuccessfully to post on the photo site)
> Here is a restored model I used for comparison.
> http://www.seriouswheels.com/1950-1959/1950-Mercury-Woody-Wagon-Yellow.htm
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> Please contact me at mailto:dennisfsexton@aol.com for a copy of the photo
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> Thanks ..
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> Dennis
> --
> Dennis S
> 73 Painted Desert 230
> Germantown, TN
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| Re: Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103796 is a reply to message #103786] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 12:40 |
roy1
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Dennis;
I'd have to agree with James the parking lights on a 49 are smaller and round. Very likely there is an olds or Cadillac engine under that air cleaner as that was common in the day. Although guys are fitting that air cleaner to Chevy's too. I'm guilty of not keeping my old fords stock too as they just resemble their old self.
Roy
Roy Keen
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76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103798 is a reply to message #103779] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 12:42 |
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The 51 Merc had a rectangular parking light instead of the bullet. The grill
is different than the 50 model in the link you posted. I don't recall what
was different about the front trim on the 49. To me, the Mercs looked more
similar than the Fords of the same generation.
Byron
Dennis Sexton wrote:
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> Off GMC topic but as we have a lot of car enthusiasts ..
> Can anyone able to help ID and old woody station wagon? The photo is intended
> for publication and the author is trying to confirm the model. I believe it is
> a 1950 Mercury but would appreciate any input. I can email the photo direct
> (tried unsuccessfully to post on the photo site)
> Here is a restored model I used for comparison.
> http://www.seriouswheels.com/1950-1959/1950-Mercury-Woody-Wagon-Yellow.htm
>
> Please contact me at mailto:dennisfsexton@aol.com for a copy of the photo
>
> Thanks ..
>
> Dennis
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103802 is a reply to message #103787] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 12:58 |
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Swap out the year (1949 or 1950) in
this URL to see more pics. The 1951
page shows pics of stock front ends
PLUS a 1950 woody and a green 1951
woody.
The 1950s had simple park/turn lights
at the front. 1950 brought chrome
trim around them, and 1951 brought
a wrap-around treatment. Similar
treatment was done on 49-50 Fords.
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* D C "Mac" Macdonald *
* Amateur Radio K2GKK *
* USAF & FAA, Retired *
** Oklahoma City, OK **
* * * "Money Pit" * * *
* * ex-Palm Beach, 76 *
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> From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:00:47 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Help ID old Woody Wagon
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> Did some Google searching. I'm pretty sure that
> the parking lights peg it as a 1950. Grill and
> parking lights (along with trunk and rear lights)
> are the way to distinguish between the 1949-1951
> Fords and Mercs. I had a 1950 Ford convertible
> as my second car.
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> See fiveprime.org/hivemind/Tags/1950,mercury
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> There are several there with stock front ends,
> along with other custom treatments. Chevy grills
> were often used to fill the original grill opening.
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> * * * * * * * * * * * *
> * D C "Mac" Macdonald *
> * Amateur Radio K2GKK *
> * USAF & FAA, Retired *
> ** Oklahoma City, OK **
> * * * "Money Pit" * * *
> * * ex-Palm Beach, 76 *
> * * * * * * * * * * * *
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> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > From: dennisfsexton@aol.com
> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:58:56 -0500
> > Subject: [GMCnet] Help ID old Woody Wagon
> >
> >
> >
> > Off GMC topic but as we have a lot of car enthusiasts ..
> > Can anyone able to help ID and old woody station wagon? The photo is intended for publication and the author is trying to confirm the model. I believe it is a 1950 Mercury but would appreciate any input. I can email the photo direct (tried unsuccessfully to post on the photo site)
> > Here is a restored model I used for comparison.
> > http://www.seriouswheels.com/1950-1959/1950-Mercury-Woody-Wagon-Yellow.htm
> >
> > Please contact me at mailto:dennisfsexton@aol.com for a copy of the photo
> >
> > Thanks ..
> >
> > Dennis
> > --
> > Dennis S
> > 73 Painted Desert 230
> > Germantown, TN
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| Re: Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103804 is a reply to message #103779] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 13:16 |
Oldngray
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Pretty sure it is a 50, I had a 49 Coupe and it had the same OEM skirts and Visor. The Bumper with the upper wing and the large Bezel around the parking lights make it a 50, in 51 the rear fenders were extended and a Continental kit added as a option, the grille changed to wrap around the fenders and included the parking lights, the car behind the yellow one is a 51.
Just what I remember, had a 49 and a 51.
Richard MacDonald
Punta Gorda, Florida
Sold our TZE April 2015
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103809 is a reply to message #103807] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 14:48 |
James Hupy
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Sorry Dennis, I believe that the car that Dan took a picture of is a 49 Merc
if the hubcaps are stock, they still used the small dome shaped ones that
snapped over spring clips on the wheels, the 50 and later used a flatter
shaped cover that snapped over a raised stamped place on the wheel. That is
also about the time that they went from 16" to 15" wheels. Not an exact
science because the wheels and tires are easily swapped between years and
cars. I do know that the differentials in the Merc Station Wagons and
Woodies were a larger ring gear and heavier axles but still had the 5 x 5.5
lug bolt pattern. We always tried to get station wagon rear ends to replace
the ones in our shoe box fords when doing engine swaps. They were a lot
stronger. The 49 Merc engine block was the one to get to repower earlier
fords too. The bell housing was a separate piece instead of being cast on
the back of the block like the ford. The merc transmission was a different
piece than the fords used also. This probably accounts for the fact that
these merc wagons are a rare car today, because so many of them were used up
for donors. I know I am guilty of junking 3 or 4 of them.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>wrote:
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> My apologies for the confusing first post but the car in this link (on
> bdub's site) is the one I am trying to ID
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36472&title=dennis&cat=5630
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> I think it is a 1950 Mercury.
>
> Thank you all for the help.
>
> Dennis
>
> The other link was for the closest comparable car I had found on the net.
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> 73 Painted Desert 230
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| Re: Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103814 is a reply to message #103807] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 15:56 |
Oldngray
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Sorry, my eyes are too old and tired to make out that picture.
Richard MacDonald
Punta Gorda, Florida
Sold our TZE April 2015
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103816 is a reply to message #103809] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 16:18 |
Dennis S
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Jim,
I think you are correct. Enlarging the photo and comparing it I see that the turn signals appear to be the round style and the chrome strip different than a 1950. The bumper over-riders influenced me to first think 50.
Here is a 1949 I found for comparison.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacksnell707/4317159593/in/photostream/
Now, how you could tell about the differential from that photo is beyond me :
Thanks to everyone for their help in the ID.
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
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From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Fri, Oct 22, 2010 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Help ID old Woody Wagon
Sorry Dennis, I believe that the car that Dan took a picture of is a 49 Merc
f the hubcaps are stock, they still used the small dome shaped ones that
napped over spring clips on the wheels, the 50 and later used a flatter
haped cover that snapped over a raised stamped place on the wheel. That is
lso about the time that they went from 16" to 15" wheels. Not an exact
cience because the wheels and tires are easily swapped between years and
ars. I do know that the differentials in the Merc Station Wagons and
oodies were a larger ring gear and heavier axles but still had the 5 x 5.5
ug bolt pattern. We always tried to get station wagon rear ends to replace
he ones in our shoe box fords when doing engine swaps. They were a lot
tronger. The 49 Merc engine block was the one to get to repower earlier
ords too. The bell housing was a separate piece instead of being cast on
he back of the block like the ford. The merc transmission was a different
iece than the fords used also. This probably accounts for the fact that
hese merc wagons are a rare car today, because so many of them were used up
or donors. I know I am guilty of junking 3 or 4 of them.
im Hupy
alem, Or
8 Royale 403
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>wrote:
>
My apologies for the confusing first post but the car in this link (on
bdub's site) is the one I am trying to ID
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36472&title=dennis&cat=5630
I think it is a 1950 Mercury.
Thank you all for the help.
Dennis
The other link was for the closest comparable car I had found on the net.
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73 Painted Desert 230
Germantown, TN
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| Re: Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103827 is a reply to message #103779] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 17:39 |
bryant374
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Anyone able to help ID an old woody station wagon? The photo is intended for publication and the author is trying to confirm the model. I believe it is a 1950 Mercury but would appreciate any input. I can email the photo direct (tried unsuccessfully to post on the photo site)
Here is a restored model I used for comparison.
http://www.seriouswheels.com/1950-1959/1950-Mercury-Woody-Wagon-Yellow.htm
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The woodie is a 1950, The car behind it has 1954 Mercury tail lights.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: Help ID old Woody Wagon [message #103829 is a reply to message #103779] |
Fri, 22 October 2010 18:13 |
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I e-mailed you directly a scan of the front cover of the Early Ford V-8 Times which has a '50 Ford woody wagon on the cover.
Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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