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3.5 inch exhaust??? [message #103680] Thu, 21 October 2010 11:23 Go to next message
g.winger is currently offline  g.winger   United States
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Any body thought about it?? Any one try it. 3"=7sq.in. area. 3.5"= 9.3sq. in. area. Pretty big increase percentage wise. Would only need .25 inch bigger hole, 1/4 inch all the way around of course.??????,,,,PL
Re: 3.5 inch exhaust??? [message #103682 is a reply to message #103680] Thu, 21 October 2010 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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g.winger wrote on Thu, 21 October 2010 11:23

Any body thought about it?? Any one try it. 3"=7sq.in. area. 3.5"= 9.3sq. in. area. Pretty big increase percentage wise. Would only need .25 inch bigger hole, 1/4 inch all the way around of course.??????,,,,PL


Not even close to worth it.
2.5" is plenty, 3" is overkill.


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Re: [GMCnet] 3.5 inch exhaust??? [message #103684 is a reply to message #103680] Thu, 21 October 2010 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KRDietz is currently offline  KRDietz   United States
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Well, you asked...

think a 3.5" exhaust would be silly.
Yes... there can be too much of a good thing.

I have a stock 455 with a Q-jet. New 2.5" exhaust (NOT mandrel bent)
using two true 2.5" mufflers (OEM was smaller) and I can pull serious
grades at 55mph (if I want to) and got 9 to 9.5mpg on the last trip.

Why would you try to stuff 3.5" pipe in there? Why would you even do
3"? You won't increase the mileage. You probably won't have a
noticeable increase in power. You WILL get a louder exhaust.

Sometimes we tend to fix problems where there aren't any - just because
we can.

Just sayin'...
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR


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Re: 3.5 inch exhaust??? [message #103704 is a reply to message #103680] Thu, 21 October 2010 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is a major consideration. The 3" exhaust will fit through the existing holes in the cross members along the RH side. 3 1/2" will not fit.

I have the 3" - I don't know if it improves performance or not but I grew up adopting the philosophy that if a little bit is good then too much is just enough. But 3 1/2"? I'd say it isn't worth the hassle.


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Re: [GMCnet] 3.5 inch exhaust??? [message #103720 is a reply to message #103684] Thu, 21 October 2010 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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KRDietz wrote on Thu, 21 October 2010 10:22

... You won't increase the mileage. You probably won't have a
noticeable increase in power. You WILL get a louder exhaust. ...


From all my reading (and not much experience) I even question a 3" all the way to the rear. Seems you CAN have to large of an exhaust for "torque proposes." It has something to do with "exhaust scavenging." Exhaust in a long "too large" pipe cools and contracts... slowing down in the pipe. (Note that a 3 inch exhaust DOES increase horse power a small but measurable amount.)

How do you know if your pipe is to large/small for your installation? I have read about spraying paint (regular, non-high temp) in places on your exhaust. Where it burns off you could use a larger pipe. NOTE THAT I haven't tried this... and it might not be that accurate near the engine.

BUT

I do have experience with the loader exhaust. Two of my coaches have 3 inch exhausts (and 455's) and one has 2.5 inch (and a 403). The "3 inch" coaches are MUCH louder... but I am not sure if the exhaust size is the ONLY reason.


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Re: 3.5 inch exhaust??? [message #103742 is a reply to message #103680] Fri, 22 October 2010 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey,

I thought I would share this link with you that I found doing exhaust research. Some good information. Hope it helps.

http://www.boyleworks.com/ta400/psp/exhaust.html

Scott
Re: [GMCnet] 3.5 inch exhaust??? [message #103749 is a reply to message #103704] Fri, 22 October 2010 01:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have 4" in mine since I run twin Turbos.
I had to have the frame cut to accept the pipe.
If your running a standard set up, 3" using Mandrel bent system seem
to sufficient.

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> Here is a major consideration.  The 3" exhaust will fit through the existing holes in the cross members along the RH side.  3 1/2" will not fit.
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> I have the 3" - I don't know if it improves performance or not but I grew up adopting the philosophy that if a little bit is good then too much is just enough.  But 3 1/2"? I'd say it isn't worth the hassle.
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Re: 3.5 inch exhaust??? [message #103788 is a reply to message #103742] Fri, 22 October 2010 12:13 Go to previous message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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Thanks Scott that confirms my thoughts on the Walker Dynomax mufflers I have been running for the past 20 years. I always felt they were pretty good and also not too loud at a reasonable cost. It's good to see a test showing all of this.
Roy


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