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| Re: [GMCnet] some bad UAW guys here [message #100886 is a reply to message #100884] |
Fri, 24 September 2010 16:05   |
LNelson
Messages: 335
Registered: December 2008
Location: Springfield, MO
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"someone's getting their legs broke"
I hope that was a joke. I think organized labor has grown from those days.
Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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| Re: some bad UAW guys here [message #100887 is a reply to message #100879] |
Fri, 24 September 2010 16:28 |
Larry C
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Registered: July 2004
Location: NE Illinois by the Illino...
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This isn't nothing.
When I worked for FUJI MACHINE COMPANY, we supplied the auto industry with computerized metal cutting lathes.
If they got 2 hours work for an 8 hour day, that would be really stretching it.
Our techs would complain consantly about having to sit and wait for the Chrysler workers to get on the job so they could work on the machines to get them ready for initial start-up.
The workers would file a complaint if our techs so much as turned the machine on.
This report has got nothing on what is really happening there.
Gatsbys' CRUISER  08-18-04
74 GLACIER X, 260/455-APC-4 Bagg'r
Remflex Manifold gaskets
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| Re: some bad UAW guys here [message #100888 is a reply to message #100879] |
Fri, 24 September 2010 16:28 |
2-4 the road
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Location: Fulltimers
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It sounds like GM and the UAW took care
of the issue.
Whats this got to do with this forum?
If I had any interest in "Fox News" I'd
watch it on my tv.
2-4 the road
77 Kingsley 455
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| Re: some bad UAW guys here [message #100893 is a reply to message #100879] |
Fri, 24 September 2010 17:02 |
bobby5832708
Messages: 237
Registered: November 2006
Location: Winter Springs FL
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Those UAW guys must have had older relatives that worked at the GMC Motorhome plant in 1973 when my coach was made, judging by several assembly goofs I've found. Like father like son!
But remember, it's OK for management bigwigs to have their 3-martini lunch. Maybe that explains some of the boneheaded decisions GM management has made over the years.
I worked at a company in the early 80's where us worker-bees would occasionally get a quart (or 2) each of Coors at lunch and be fairly well buzzed for a couple of hours during the afternoon. We didn't feel too guilty as we watched several big bosses regularly get their "allocation of ethanol" at lunch or during an "extended afternoon break" and then come back and try to run the business, mood swings and all. It was even more interesting watching the sales guys "entertain" their customers.
The UAW guys at Chrysler just didn't use good discretion and they got caught, not by their bosses, but from a TV station. I wouldn't think that Fox would ever exaggerate things just to get ratings ------ would they??
Bob Heller
2017 Winnebago 29VE
Winter Springs FL
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| Re: some bad UAW guys here [message #100895 is a reply to message #100893] |
Fri, 24 September 2010 17:19 |
Mitch
Messages: 272
Registered: May 2009
Location: Tacoma, Wa
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Enough with the Union bashing!
Mitch
Tacoma, Wa.
'80 Spitfire
'03 Windstar
'77 Jaguar XJ6-C
X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast"
Where it rains, always.
It's wet, No sun, Gray.
Go to Oregon.
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| Re: [GMCnet] some bad UAW guys here [message #100906 is a reply to message #100893] |
Fri, 24 September 2010 19:31 |
Tripp 33
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Registered: October 2009
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I did not post this to bash any UAW worker since that would offend at least half of my friend here in toledo, home of the Jeep. I posted it because we are all gear heads or wannabe's in my case. I thought it was a better way to bash chrysler instead of GM.
This kind of stuff happens in all types of plants, offices, places of work etc...
The real bash can be to those who own inferior dodge/chrysler motorhomes that are obviously inferior to our GMC's!
"Those UAW guys must have had older relatives that worked at the GMC Motorhome plant in 1973 when my coach was made, judging by several assembly goofs I've found. Like father like son!"
This comment however is pretty darn funny and I am happy to share it and completely agree with the statement.
Unions are solid in my opinion but I am a little dissapointed in the UAW for not appearing on camera. In my humble opinion it speaks volumes.
UAW needs to step up a little on this issue in my opinion.
Final note is that detroit Fox is very pro union and has no agenda as implied by some. They are a solid supporter of Detroit but aren't afraid to point out the lows of detroit.
Jeff
Toledo, OH (worse off than detroit)
78 transmode
Wild Rover
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: rheller@cfl.rr.com
> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:02:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] some bad UAW guys here
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> Those UAW guys must have had older relatives that worked at the GMC Motorhome plant in 1973 when my coach was made, judging by several assembly goofs I've found. Like father like son!
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> But remember, it's OK for management bigwigs to have their 3-martini lunch. Maybe that explains some of the boneheaded decisions GM management has made over the years.
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> I worked at a company in the early 80's where us worker-bees would occasionally get a quart (or 2) each of Coors at lunch and be fairly well buzzed for a couple of hours during the afternoon. We didn't feel too guilty as we watched several big bosses regularly get their "allocation of ethanol" at lunch or during an "extended afternoon break" and then come back and try to run the business, mood swings and all. It was even more interesting watching the sales guys "entertain" their customers.
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> The UAW guys at Chrysler just didn't use good discretion and they got caught, not by their bosses, but from a TV station. I wouldn't think that Fox would ever exaggerate things just to get ratings ------ would they??
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> Bob Heller
> 1974 X-Canyonlands 26ft
> Winter Springs FL
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| Re: some bad UAW guys here [message #100919 is a reply to message #100879] |
Fri, 24 September 2010 22:15 |
Bob de Kruyff
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Registered: January 2004
Location: Chandler, AZ
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I normally stay away from these topics but this one is close to my heart. I started with GM when I was 18 as a GMI student. As part of that education i worked in some of the "nastiest" manufacturing and assembly plants that existed. Although there was always an undertone of union vs salary, i was not conditioned either way and I felt that GM management walked a reasonable line. Now, transition to my 5 years in Tokyo as Director of engineering for Isuzu--they had a very collaborative relationship with the union that was not always a love in, but a reasonable meeting of the minds. When I returned stateside, i took all of my managers and set up a 2 week program to work in the Hamtramick plant side by side with union workers. Naturally we wound up on many of the most difficult stations, but rightfully so. We quickly discovered that the work was difficult, the vehicles were almost impossible to assemble, the plant equipment didn't work, and foremost, the people wanted GM to be successfully. After that event, we had a huge party at the original Buddies Pizza in detroit and made man. y long lasting relationshipsI truly feel that an open and collaborative relationship can work in a win win situation. When I watch the videos of the recent encounters, I frankly am not surprised nor alarmed because I suspect you may find that with salary employees as well. i think that in either case, these folks will build a quality product. There are just as many good examples of great plant that are unionized or not unionized. To add a bit of GMC content, I'm sure all of these dynamics were in place during the Pontiac GMC assembly facilities.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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