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Re: [GMCnet] Waterless Engine Coolant [message #327577 is a reply to message #327574] Fri, 29 December 2017 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Emery,

Seems to me the big question, which I expected you to answer, is: "What is
the heat-carrying capacity of this stuff -- that is, will it cool as well
as water or will the internal surfaces of an engine be consistently hotter?"

Ken Knowing-the-Answer H.


On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Emery Stora wrote:

>
>
> Emery
>
>> On Dec 29, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Dave Stragand dave.stragand@forwardlook.net> wrote:
>>
>> Here's the sheet:
>>
>> http://www.hrpworld.com/store/media/media/manufacturer/evans/pdfs/EVANS-
>> NPG+C%20-%20Evans%20High%20Performance%20Waterless%20Engine%20Coolant%20
>> -%20SDS.pdf
>>
>> 3. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
>> Chemical Name CAS No Weight-%
>> Ethylene glycol 107-21-1 80-85
>> 2-Ethylhexanoic acid 149-57-5 > Sodium Nitrate 7631-99-4 >
>> -Dave
>> 1978 Transmode (403)
>> Iceburgh, PA (Formerly Pittsburgh, but it's pretty cold)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Matt
>> Colie
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 10:52 AM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Waterless Engine Coolant
>>
>> At 40+$/gal I am not sure that I care. I will try to get an MSDS from
>> them. (Lord knows I have enough others, but my company @ddress has
>> died.) The specs read a lot like straight Propylene Glycol, but to
>> charge that much there better be more.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie
>
> Why anyone would even consider this is beyond my imagination. These
> products have been around since I had first joined Dow Chemical out of
> college in 1964. Dow has patents dating back to that era.
>
> Back in those days they were used in ebullient cooled engines. Those
> engines were industrial engines that didn’t use a radiator, water pump or
> any components exterior to the engines. Dow had a series of coolants called
> Dowtherm. Some were propylene glycol based; some were ethylene glycol based
> and some were glycol ethers.
>
> Boiling point is actually a protection in motors built for an automobile
> (or GMC).
> Why would you want your engine to heat up 100 or 200 or more degrees than
> a water based coolant would? Think of the internal expansion of parts from
> the heat. And the potential wear or seizing up due to that expansion.
>
> Engines that used “waterless” coolants (called ebullient cooled engines
> back then) were designed to use those coolants — our motorhome engines were
> not. If any of you are stupid enough (yes, i did use the politically
> incorrect word stupid)to put it into your GMC engines please let the rest
> of us know how long your engine lasts.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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