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Re: [GMCnet] High torque starter? [message #326152 is a reply to message #326149] Sat, 18 November 2017 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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GM standard duty starters were intended for ordinary production gasoline
engines throughout the GM product line. When they introduced the Olds
diesels, and marketed them in cold weather, they quickly found out they
needed more grunt. So, they added more field windings, and heavy duty brush
packs, and beefier bendix drives and bushings. Solenoids received some
better contactor discs and larger cable studs. They will fit everything BUT
the TM 425 cars. The TM 425 gearbox case will interchange with the HD
gearbox case, and that is what my rebuilder does to make a high torque Olds
starter. What other suppliers do is use a reduction gearbox with a high
speed motor. They spin over a stubborn motor in all conditions. Light
weight also.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Nov 18, 2017 11:55 AM, "Gary Kosier" wrote:

> I don't know what others have, but the high torque starter I have is a
> Chrysler
> gear reduction starter with a custom end housing and gear. However it does
> crank the big Cadillac with great vigor.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jim Kanomata"
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 2:25 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] High torque starter?
>
> Johnny,
>> I do not know, but will try to find out.
>> Believe it is not that , but a standard material and the torque is derived
>> from the gear reduction. Have not looked inside it or have no idea as to
>> how it works. I'm sure others out there know much more about them.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I rebuilt the stock starter on the coach I swapped for the Ratrod toad.
>>> Basically, front bushing failure (worn egg shaped) was the crux of the
>>> problem. Of course, this led to overcurrent, meaning the commutator
>>> needed to be cleaned up. Bushing and brushes were cheap. Wear latex
>>> gloves, the
>>> soot is hard to wash off your hands.
>>> Jim, is the 'hi torque' starter what used to be called 'magne-quench' or
>>> is that something else?
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>> --
>>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
>>> me
>>> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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