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Topic: original cruise control parts

Re: original cruise control parts [message #99083 is a reply to message #99021 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 08:09

CBWoodSR
Messages: 95
Registered: February 2004

Member

Will do, please advise.

Thankx
CBWoodSR

3205 Mockingbird Lane
Midwest City OK 73110

CBWood
77 Kingslay
MWC OK

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Topic: [GMCnet] Transmission variable pitch question

Re: [GMCnet] Transmission variable pitch question [message #99069 is a reply to message #99058 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 01:51

Chuck Garton
Messages: 67
Registered: June 2006

Member

I have a SP trans and uses a "box" that goes to high slip when the
brakes are applied, and when engine vacuum drops below 4". A built in
timer holds for 20 seconds in both cases. I use a single pole, double
throw center off switch to control, labeled Auto, off and on. Auto
employs the "box", off is tight lockup and on is loose lockup.

Chuck Garton
77 Kingsley 455
Ridgecrest, CA

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Gary Casey wrote on Wed, 08 September 2010 18:12
>> I should remember this, having worked at Hydramatic way back then, but I guess
>> there is just too much stuff up in the brain and something had to fall out...:)
>> Anyway, the PO installed a variable pitch stator in the torque converter and
>> had a manual switch to run it. I'd like to make it automatic, but I can't for
>> the life of me remember how the stators were controlled. I vaguely recall an
>> idle switch. Was it in the "high pitch" position at full throttle and idle? I
>> can't remember.
>>
>> Gary Casey
>>
>>
>> Gary--here's some more info, although not everything on this site is totally correct but after reading several reports on the same subject you can sift out the facts:
>>
>> http://www.442.com/oldsfaq/oftsp.htm#SP TransDetail
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission variable pitch question [message #99074 is a reply to message #99069 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 05:44

emerystora
Messages: 2112
Registered: January 2004

Senior Member

On Sep 9, 2010, at 2:51 AM, Chuck Garton wrote:

> I have a SP trans and uses a "box" that goes to high slip when the
> brakes are applied, and when engine vacuum drops below 4". A built in
> timer holds for 20 seconds in both cases. I use a single pole, double
> throw center off switch to control, labeled Auto, off and on. Auto
> employs the "box", off is tight lockup and on is loose lockup.
>
> Chuck Garton
> 77 Kingsley 455
> Ridgecrest, CA
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Gary Casey wrote on Wed, 08 September 2010 18:12
>>> I should remember this, having worked at Hydramatic way back then, but I guess
>>> there is just too much stuff up in the brain and something had to fall out...:)
>>> Anyway, the PO installed a variable pitch stator in the torque converter and
>>> had a manual switch to run it. I'd like to make it automatic, but I can't for
>>> the life of me remember how the stators were controlled. I vaguely recall an
>>> idle switch. Was it in the "high pitch" position at full throttle and idle? I
>>> can't remember.
>>>
>>> Gary Casey

That "box" is made by Bruce Roe. He can be reached at bcroe@juno.com

It come with a switch that has a center off position. When pushed one way it is in automatic mode. When pushed the other way it is always on.

The auto position will, as Chuck says, turn off the switch pitch after about 20 seconds to prevent overheating. I watch my transmission temperature gauge and when I am on a long grade I will sometimes put it into the on position so that the switch pitch stays engaged. When I see the temperature creep up I will then put it back into the auto position.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission variable pitch question [message #99075 is a reply to message #99031 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 06:37

Steven Ferguson
Messages: 3601
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

Back when we used to drag race with SP Trannies, we used to have the
switch connected to brake lights, some used the defunct horn button.
Just like dropping the clutch when the light turned green. A simple
diode installation would support an override if you wanted extra power
for passing or hills.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I should remember this, having worked at Hydramatic way back then, but I guess
> there is just too much stuff up in the brain and something had to fall out...:-)
> Anyway, the PO installed a variable pitch stator in the torque converter and
> had a manual switch to run it. I'd like to make it automatic, but I can't for
> the life of me remember how the stators were controlled. I vaguely recall an
> idle switch. Was it in the "high pitch" position at full throttle and idle? I
> can't remember.
>
> Gary Casey
>
>
>
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Topic: Buying a GMC - Looking for assistance

Re: [GMCnet] Buying tip [message #99067 is a reply to message #99063 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 01:36

bill schurman
Messages: 158
Registered: February 2004

Senior Member

How true. I'm living truth of this.

William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212

> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: bukzin@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:55:07 -0500
> Subject: [GMCnet] Buying tip
>
>
>
> You have likely heard this already but...
>
>
> Spend more money now for less hassles later.
>
> (wish I would have!)
>
>
>
> Take care
> --
> Bukzin
> 1977 Palm Beach
> Chico California
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Re: Buying a GMC - Looking for assistance [message #99079 is a reply to message #98837 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 07:09

hasbeen
Messages: 48
Registered: August 2005
Location: Cave Creek, AZ

Member

I have finally decided to bite the bullet and sell my 1977 GMC . I thought I would offer it here first before I put it on the “C” list or the “E” list. I just don’t use it enough to justify all the expense with insurance and such. I cannot get my wife into it anymore since we got our other camping set-up. It sits around to much now and after seeing all the wannabees on the site getting what they are looking for I know somebody out there would surely get a bunch of enjoyment from this motor home. It is by no means finished and does need some cosmetic and interior help. I have added a poster on the GMC Motorhome Picture site with some info described. I will answer as many questions as I can and would appreciate contact via the PM service. Thanks in advance. Jim

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Topic: [GMCnet] New Registry

[GMCnet] New Registry [message #99080]

Thu, 09 September 2010 07:39

David L Greenberg
Messages: 1799
Registered: January 2004
Location: Port St Lucie, FL

Senior Member

Did someone on the Net send me the following input?

If so is there more info coming so I can tie this coach to someone?

Thanks

David Lee Greenberg
Port St Lucie, FL skype: david.lee.greenberg
Dedicated to the Preservation of the Classic GMC Motorhome
http://GMCmhRegistry.com
http://www.picturetrail.com/gmcregistry

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: feedback@www.gmcmhregistry.com
To: davegreenberg1@juno.com
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:35:04 -0400
Subject: subject: New Registry
Message-ID: <201009090135.o891Z4KN008895@wsrv3.thecyberweb.net>

Below are the results of your feedback form at: www.gmcmhregistry.com

Subject: subject: New Registry
Wed Sep 8 21:35:04 2010

Name:
Street Address:
City:
State:
zip:
Country:
Area Code/Phone #:
E-mail:
TZE (VIN #): TZE 165V101169
GMC Manufacture Date:
GMC Model:
GMC Length:
Original Owner Y/N:
Years Owned:
Major Modifications? Y/N Please specify:
subject: New Registry
UQ9E

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Topic: Re: [GMCnet] Miscellaneous(GMC) Ramblings

Re: [GMCnet] Miscellaneous(GMC) Ramblings [message #99085]

Thu, 09 September 2010 08:22

Gary Cottingame
Messages: 122
Registered: January 2005

Senior Member

Michael,

You don't realize it, but you are an envied man by many. To be so lucky.
If you enjoy it, keep on keeping on until it quits being fun.

A wise man once told me, " Son, find something you thoroughly enjoy doing, and learn to do it well, and someone will pay you to do it. Then every morning you can go out and have fun and not have to call it work."

Oh, to be in your shoes and get to play with all those toys all day.

Hell, if you feel guilty, go play golf once a month.

Gary
TZE21
73 26 CL
Denison, Tx

--- On Wed, 9/8/10, Michael Bozardt <ilse@earth-comm.com> wrote:

I keep undertaking projects that seem normal, the constant question of why am I doing this? One reason is that I enjoy doing it. So, it ain't over until my wife says it's over and I keep her guessing.
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Topic: [GMCnet] 76 PB eBay

[GMCnet] 76 PB eBay [message #99081]

Thu, 09 September 2010 07:23

David L Greenberg
Messages: 1799
Registered: January 2004
Location: Port St Lucie, FL

Senior Member

What a bargain! At $7600 or best offer, this looks like it is ready to
roll and a good deal for a Wannabee or a 2nd coach
for someone.

Item # 230522272139

If anyone communicates with the seller, try to get a name and address. He
has been a tad reluctant to share tha info
with me but he probably would with a potential buyer.

David Lee Greenberg
Port St Lucie, FL skype: david.lee.greenberg
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Re: [GMCnet] 76 PB eBay [message #99086 is a reply to message #99081 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 08:37

Dennis S
Messages: 869
Registered: November 2005

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Dave,
This may well be a great deal for someone -- but anyone considering an offer should do their due diligence. It appears to have been sold once before for $7200 but is relisted. In the Q&A the seller sasy it came from a friend -- a lot of non-dealres in Tennessee like to resell a vehicle before they register it in their name -- avoiding sales tax etc. It can be a hassle getting a clear title.

Just enough reason to be cautious.

Dennis

David L Greenberg wrote on Thu, 09 September 2010 07:23

Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Germantown, TN

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Topic: ANOTHER setback

ANOTHER setback [message #99087]

Thu, 09 September 2010 08:42

g.winger
Messages: 259
Registered: February 2008
Location: Warrenton,Missouri

Senior Member

Well,,,,a week and a half ago I pulled it out of the garage and noticed it was ideling poorly. Almost like a miss. Pulled each wire at the dist. No change except got bit twice. Fiddled with the air screws. No help. Went and got the Vac gage. Odd reading with the needle jumping???? Went to look for my notes and looked it up on the net. Stuck valve,,,what the??? Pulled the plugs which is tough on the right side when its hot(tall valve covers to clear the rockers). 170 on #8.(left rear on caddys)120 on # 6,,Did it again,,,,90,,,thats really bad. BUT valve an't stuck,right. Put the plugs back in and put it back in the garage.(AC and Heat if needed) Pulled the cover and the intake valve rockers pin that holds the roller had moved out about 1/2 way. So the roller cocked at an angle(unsuported on one side). No damage to the valve or retainer. I had purchased full rollers(pivot and tip) from Potters in TN because my originals were shot with 165k or 265k miles. He made the stands but the rockers are BB chevys from Probe(they make pistons but mine are Ross) New rocker should be here today and then the testing continues but of course its going to rain. Maybe i should have bought Probe pistons instead of Ross. Incradable story about shipping though. Tld the "Boss" sunday nite that if she mailed it monday morning instead of afternoon after work we could gat a jump on it by a day. Left the address of Potters and said "wait untill I call, it will be after 7 because its a eastern time zone". Potter called at 7:15 and said to wait it needs to go to Probe(CA). He called at 10:15 and gave me the address. Called the boss and sha said she SENT IT!!!!! Oh no,,Thats an extra week. So I called the post office and a guy answered. Told my tale of woe. Put me on hold for 10 min. Came back and said he found it and then RE-ADDRESED IT. I WAS STUNNED. Next time any of you guys ship gold bullion let me know. I got the US post office on speed-dial!!!!! Wish me luck. ALSO,,,I listed parts I,m bringing to Duquion, but forgot I have 2 complete hub/knuckle/dics/caliper assemblys.,,,,PL

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Topic: [GMCnet] Hose Clamp Murphy's Law

[GMCnet] Hose Clamp Murphy's Law [message #99088]

Thu, 09 September 2010 08:49

Ray Erspamer
Messages: 1135
Registered: May 2007

Senior Member

Seems like it never fails, you put a hose clamp on, position it so it's not
interfering with anything and has the easiest accessibility, Then the very next
thing you have to work on that exact hose clamp will be in perfect position to
cut and scratch the living heck out of your wrist or arm, etc. How do we manage
to do some things so perfectly WRONG ???

Ray

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TZE368V101144
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Re: [GMCnet] Hose Clamp Murphy's Law [message #99090 is a reply to message #99088 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 09:13

ljdavick
Messages: 798
Registered: March 2007
Location: Fremont, CA

Senior Member

Ray,

My buddy was driving his 3 year new SOB back from Tahoe when a hose clamp finally wore a hole in his radiator hose. This left him stranded on the side of the freeway. He wanted the "correct" hose, and that took 4 days to arrive! A $60 hose turned in to a $500 repair.

Your wrists and arms will heal for free!

Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine

On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Ray Erspamer wrote:

> Seems like it never fails, you put a hose clamp on, position it so it's not
> interfering with anything and has the easiest accessibility, Then the very next
> thing you have to work on that exact hose clamp will be in perfect position to
> cut and scratch the living heck out of your wrist or arm, etc. How do we manage
> to do some things so perfectly WRONG ???
>
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
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Re: [GMCnet] Hose Clamp Murphy's Law [message #99092 is a reply to message #99090 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 09:19

Ray Erspamer
Messages: 1135
Registered: May 2007

Senior Member

Good point Larry.......good Lord.....$60 and $500......total insanity !

Ray

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TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
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From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 9:13:53 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Hose Clamp Murphy's Law

Ray,

My buddy was driving his 3 year new SOB back from Tahoe when a hose clamp
finally wore a hole in his radiator hose. This left him stranded on the side of
the freeway. He wanted the "correct" hose, and that took 4 days to arrive! A
$60 hose turned in to a $500 repair.

Your wrists and arms will heal for free!

Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine

On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Ray Erspamer wrote:

> Seems like it never fails, you put a hose clamp on, position it so it's not
> interfering with anything and has the easiest accessibility, Then the very next
>
> thing you have to work on that exact hose clamp will be in perfect position to

> cut and scratch the living heck out of your wrist or arm, etc. How do we
>manage
>
> to do some things so perfectly WRONG ???
>
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Re: [GMCnet] Hose Clamp Murphy's Law [message #99093 is a reply to message #99088 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 09:24

Tom Lins
Messages: 143
Registered: February 2004
Location: Milltown, NJ

Senior Member

Naa not insanity.... RV (kinda like Marine or Motorcycle)

Tom Lins
Milltown, NJ
78 xPB
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Topic: [GMCnet] Shifting and Vac Modulator

Re: [GMCnet] Shifting and Vac Modulator [message #99095 is a reply to message #99056 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 09:27

Ray Erspamer
Messages: 1135
Registered: May 2007

Senior Member

Thanks Steve, I will do some additional research and then decide what to do.

BTW, I still have your bearing seal retaining piece that you let me use for the
pattern for the part I needed for my Warner Bearing Tool set, need to get that
back to you.

Ray

Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
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From: Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 10:16:55 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Shifting and Vac Modulator

midlf wrote on Wed, 08 September 2010 22:15
> Larry wrote on Wed, 08 September 2010 21:44
> > If all else fails try the governor. JWID
>
>
> Ray - if you don't have headers it is easy, I'm told here, to change the
>regulator. I have a spare you can try, or two if I'm counting the transmode.
>
>
> However there have also been numerous comments here over the years on how the
>vac line can get plugged at the restriction in the steel line and cause
>problems. Others can elaborate on this as I don't remember the details.

Ray - check your cell phone. I have left the work number I will be at until
0600AM Thursday.
--
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150
Palmyra WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Shifting and Vac Modulator [message #99104 is a reply to message #99050 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 10:01

Ray Erspamer
Messages: 1135
Registered: May 2007

Senior Member

Hi Larry

That's exactly what's happened to mine, by 15 mph I'm in high gear.

What's really made it noticable is that I just finished installing the new
Springfield Ignition system that I purchased from Dick Patterson. With the
coach shifting so quick it's hard to tell if the timing curve change is doing
any good or not, with the early shifting it seemed to perform WORSE with the new
ignition system.

Ray

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To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 9:44:20 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Shifting and Vac Modulator

Ray,
I had exactly the same problem with mine about 2 yrs ago. Suddenly one day
without prior symptoms or warning it would shift out of 1st at 5mph and into
high by 15mph. After f#%king around with the vac modulator for a week or so,
and dropping the pan twice to check the SP and kick down solonoid, it occured to
me that this was a speed problem not a vacuum problem. I swapped out the
governor, and the problem went away. If all else fails try the governor. JWID
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78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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Topic: A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin

Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99077 is a reply to message #98939 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 06:51

Steven Ferguson
Messages: 3601
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

I bet that fellow lives on Archer lane.

Oh, almost forgot. Should you be coming from Carbondale, keep your
eye to the right. About 4-5 miles you will see a RR bridge that was
built in 1902, big numbers. The drive just north of that bridge, on
same side of road, leads to a very famous guy that was my mentor while
getting our coach ready to travel. You will know who as the road is
named after him. He was one of the fore fathers of this net. I am
hoping he can make an appearance at the convention.

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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99103 is a reply to message #99077 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 10:01

WD0AFQ
Messages: 3564
Registered: November 2004
Location: Dexter, Mo.

Senior Member

Steven Ferguson wrote on Thu, 09 September 2010 06:51

Yep

Dan & Teri Gregg

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Topic: Miscellaneous(GMC) Ramblings

Re: [GMCnet] Miscellaneous(GMC) Ramblings [message #99096 is a reply to message #99060 ]

Thu, 09 September 2010 09:29

Charles
Messages: 543
Registered: January 2004

Senior Member

Michael,
Reading two of the replies you have received I can
tell they haven't seen your place. More work than
any one man should be doing. I commend you.
BUT! I wouldn't want to be in you shoes. I wish you
the best and hope to see you in Du Quoin.
Charles

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Pandora's Box

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