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 Topic: GMC 1:43 Scale Model on ebay
Re: GMC 1:43 Scale Model on ebay [message #315094 is a reply to message #315070] Sat, 25 March 2017 07:43
midlf is currently offline  midlf   United States
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Very high quality. Some "errors" from OEM based on the GMC they copied but this is minor. A repainted to match would require a great deal of patience and skill.

This model is many many pay grades higher than a hot wheels GMC. <GRIN>


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
 Topic: [GMCnet] 11 hour drive Wed. New Chinese electric fuel pump shut us down in Talsa Ok.
Re: [GMCnet] 11 hour drive Wed. New Chinese electric fuel pump shut us down in Talsa Ok. [message #315096 is a reply to message #315088] Sat, 25 March 2017 09:40
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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But Bob, did you make it to your destination, did the Linda modifications
work well for you, and did you tow anything? I just hope you guys got where
you were going, and that all is well with your newly outfitted coach.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Mar 24, 2017 8:01 PM, "Bob Dunahugh" wrote:

> The slant thing went past me for a minute. Great. I've been to China. Not
> nice people to work with. And to my dislike. The replacement came from
> China. And when I get home with it. That pump is going back to Advance as
> defective. I'm sick of this stuff from China.
>
> Bob Dunahugh
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 Topic: Re: [GMCnet] Electrical Short found but it wasn't easy
Re: [GMCnet] Electrical Short found but it wasn't easy [message #315093 is a reply to message #315085] Sat, 25 March 2017 04:28
Handyman is currently offline  Handyman   Netherlands
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GMCWiperMan wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 03:19
Steve's correct -- he always filled tires to the sidewall maximum.

Ken H.

Doing that brought me a while ago in trouble, the mechanic filled the front tires at 83 PSI ... driving around corners became a vibrating, ratteling adventure!
Going straight went to searching where do we go to now ....

But before I discovered that .... it took a while. Back to the requierd pressure, all was normal again, smooth driving.
To low pressure is dangerous, but to much can also be.

Daniel


Daniel Jacobs, No GMC, but an admirer of them .... We'll see what the future brings .... Always remember, the world is full of nice people! So, if you can't find one, be one!
Re: [GMCnet] Electrical Short found but it wasn't easy [message #315098 is a reply to message #315093] Sat, 25 March 2017 10:53
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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Handyman wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 04:28
GMCWiperMan wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 03:19
Steve's correct -- he always filled tires to the sidewall maximum.

Ken H.

Doing that brought me a while ago in trouble, the mechanic filled the front tires at 83 PSI ... driving around corners became a vibrating, ratteling adventure!
Going straight went to searching where do we go to now ....

But before I discovered that .... it took a while. Back to the requierd pressure, all was normal again, smooth driving.
To low pressure is dangerous, but to much can also be.

Daniel
Keeping the thread drift going, overinflating also shrinks the amount of tire area in contact with the pavement, and that increases stopping distance. Not to mention causing more wear in the center of the tread, which means that part will get bald sooner, and you have to replace tires more often. Underinflating results in sidewall degradation, which can mean a blowout, plus more wear on the tread sides, which causes you to buy tires more often.

Keep your tires in the sweet spot for the load on them: http://gmcmotorhome.info/tires.html#PSI


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73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit 4 Sale
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 Topic: [GMCnet] Old GMCer
Re: [GMCnet] Old GMCer [message #315097 is a reply to message #315080] Sat, 25 March 2017 10:48
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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I purchased Charlie Tooles coach from his wife Nell. It's been a great coach!

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Billy Massey wrote:
> Nubie on Facebook came up with his own version of new bag system.
> Inherited coach. Very nice, always kept inside, ragusa, vents, mostly
> veey .ice original. Thought surely someone would know them.
>
> He'll be around a while. I'll guide him to the Dixielanders.
>
> On Mar 24, 2017 1:19 PM, "Ken Henderson" wrote:
>
> Billy,
>
> First off, how are you doing?
>
> Re: Duck Metz. I've been in Dixielanders since '98 but never heard of
> him. The only member I recall from Charleston is Charlie Toole who's
> probably been gone from earth for 12+ years. He helped me install new
> front wheel bearings at Bean Station in '00, including Zerks, long before
> most thought of it. He was an old hard-hat diver. One of the ones
> everyone REALLY misses.
>
> Sorry, us Old Codgers tend to wander off on tangents.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Billy Massey wrote:
>
>> Does anyone remember a GMCer that went by Duck Metz around Charleston,
>> SC? His
>> wife was Edith.
>>
>>
>> Used to pull hotrods and show cars around the country behind 1977 Kingsley
>>
>> bdub
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Re: [GMCnet] Old GMCer [message #315101 is a reply to message #315097] Sat, 25 March 2017 11:42
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Ray, you did let John Shotwell know I asume. Thanks

Mike in NS

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Ray Erspamer
wrote:

> I purchased Charlie Tooles coach from his wife Nell. It's been a great
> coach!
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Billy Massey wrote:
>> Nubie on Facebook came up with his own version of new bag system.
>> Inherited coach. Very nice, always kept inside, ragusa, vents, mostly
>> veey .ice original. Thought surely someone would know them.
>>
>> He'll be around a while. I'll guide him to the Dixielanders.
>>
>> On Mar 24, 2017 1:19 PM, "Ken Henderson" wrote:
>>
>> Billy,
>>
>> First off, how are you doing?
>>
>> Re: Duck Metz. I've been in Dixielanders since '98 but never heard of
>> him. The only member I recall from Charleston is Charlie Toole who's
>> probably been gone from earth for 12+ years. He helped me install new
>> front wheel bearings at Bean Station in '00, including Zerks, long before
>> most thought of it. He was an old hard-hat diver. One of the ones
>> everyone REALLY misses.
>>
>> Sorry, us Old Codgers tend to wander off on tangents.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Billy Massey wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone remember a GMCer that went by Duck Metz around Charleston,
>>> SC? His
>>> wife was Edith.
>>>
>>>
>>> Used to pull hotrods and show cars around the country behind 1977
> Kingsley
>>>
>>> bdub
>>>
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 Topic: Airbag Nut Torque Spec?
Airbag Nut Torque Spec? [message #315103] Sat, 25 March 2017 12:27
bryhart is currently offline  bryhart   United States
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This is for the big end nuts obviously. I think the manual says 50-60 ft/lbs. I don't know why but that seemed low to me. Can anyone confirm?

Thank,
--Bryan


1977 Palm Beach
Re: Airbag Nut Torque Spec? [message #315104 is a reply to message #315103] Sat, 25 March 2017 12:44
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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bryhart wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 13:27
This is for the big end nuts obviously. I think the manual says 50-60 ft/lbs. I don't know why but that seemed low to me. Can anyone confirm?

Thank,
--Bryan

Bryan,
That is what the build book lists.
Are you thinking it is low because the parts involved are large?
They have nothing to do with the final situation. The ends of the Airspring are always in compression. All those big nuts are for is to make sure that the parts do stray.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Airbag Nut Torque Spec? [message #315105 is a reply to message #315103] Sat, 25 March 2017 13:00
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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Bryan,
In manual X7525, go to section 4, page 4-27. Paragraph - Air Bellows installation, subparagraph 4. The manual says50 to 60 ft/lbs. In the last 18 years or so I have never used a torque wrench because of the socket is difficult to source. I have always used a large combination wrench.

f you do not have a manual for your coach go to:

http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html

Both the X-7525 and the the 78 Supplement X-7725 are available for download. Only the X-7525 has any info on the air bag torque.


J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
Newsletter Editor/Publisher
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78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
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> On Mar 25, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Bryan Hartman wrote:
>
> This is for the big end nuts obviously. I think the manual says 50-60 ft/lbs. I don't know why but that seemed low to me. Can anyone confirm?
>
> Thank,
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Re: [GMCnet] Airbag Nut Torque Spec? [message #315107 is a reply to message #315105] Sat, 25 March 2017 14:34
bryhart is currently offline  bryhart   United States
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Matt Colie wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 10:44

Bryan,
That is what the build book lists.
Are you thinking it is low because the parts involved are large?
They have nothing to do with the final situation. The ends of the Airspring are always in compression. All those big nuts are for is to make sure that the parts do stray.

Matt


Yes...I just assumed it would be more because of the critical nature of the nut. I read that in the manual and I just wanted to confirm. Your explanation makes me understand that the nut is not quite as critical as one would assume. Thank you.

powwerjon wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 11:00
Bryan,
In manual X7525, go to section 4, page 4-27. Paragraph - Air Bellows installation, subparagraph 4. The manual says50 to 60 ft/lbs. In the last 18 years or so I have never used a torque wrench because of the socket is difficult to source. I have always used a large combination wrench.

f you do not have a manual for your coach go to:

http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html

Both the X-7525 and the the 78 Supplement X-7725 are available for download. Only the X-7525 has any info on the air bag torque.


J.R. Wright


Thank you J.R. I have the manual, I just didn't trust it. Smile


1977 Palm Beach
 Topic: Carter electric fuel pump
Carter electric fuel pump [message #315108] Sat, 25 March 2017 14:44
Scott Nutter is currently offline  Scott Nutter   United States
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After reading Bobs post on Chinese fuel pumps, I did a little research.
The pump that seems the most popular for our Gmc's are the Carter p4070's. According to Amazon they are made in china?! At $53 for pump.
Now Amazon also has a Carter p4389 electric fuel pump for $54. Amazon says it's made in the USA! The deminshions are about the same, 6psi (4070 is 3-6 psi), and made for marine use.
Does anyone have any history with the p4389? Recommendations? Our a fresh set of eyes to double check my findings.
My application would be to hook it up the the aux fuel switch to help prevent vapor lock.
Thank, Scott.


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 Topic: FYI E3 Spark plug sale
FYI E3 Spark plug sale [message #315102] Sat, 25 March 2017 12:23
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RockAuto is closing out the E3-52 (455) and other E3 plugs @ 2.62 ea.
http://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?mfr=E3+SPARK+PLUGS


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Re: [GMCnet] FYI E3 Spark plug sale [message #315106 is a reply to message #315102] Sat, 25 March 2017 14:28
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Jerry,
I have used the E3-52 plug in our stretch coach, 461 jasper olds, MPFI. Total of about 25K miles without any noticeable problem. Good plug, I would use them.


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> On Mar 25, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Jerry Burt wrote:
>
> RockAuto is closing out the E3-52 (455) and other E3 plugs @ 2.62 ea.
> http://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?mfr=E3+SPARK+PLUGS
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] FYI E3 Spark plug sale [message #315109 is a reply to message #315106] Sat, 25 March 2017 16:33
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Already ordered them. I had decided to go with the E3s and a set of Mancor high heat resistant 8.5mm wires when I upgraded to a Patterson Distr. I'm going to have to pull my leaking intake and do the crossover routine so it will all get done at once. Finished getting the exhaust leaks fixed, the digi-panel installed, and the dash put back together. I haven;t driven it since the New Year trip so time for a short driving fix then do the intake.

powwerjon wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 12:28
Jerry,
I have used the E3-52 plug in our stretch coach, 461 jasper olds, MPFI. Total of about 25K miles without any noticeable problem. Good plug, I would use them.


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Tech Editor
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
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> On Mar 25, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Jerry Burt wrote:
>
> RockAuto is closing out the E3-52 (455) and other E3 plugs @ 2.62 ea.
> http://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?mfr=E3+SPARK+PLUGS
> --
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> 73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands -
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 Topic: Generator light on ... alternator is charging...
Re: [GMCnet] Generator light on ... alternator is charging... [message #315095 is a reply to message #315092] Sat, 25 March 2017 08:01
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Your earlier post said you removed it
Barton told you the alternato volts should be 15 volts
Read here
http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/engine.html#alternator

Is prob not the APC


On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:00 PM Alan M DeLuccio
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> Greetings,
>
> Can an APC go bad? I have had one installed on my GMC for quite a few
> years and just recently the GEN light has come on. Dim ... but on. It is a
> 78,
> and I read that GM solved a problem in later models that occurred on
> earlier models that caused the GEN light to glow dim.The GEN is putting out
> voltage ... approx 13 volts, so maybe the APC is bad? I had an 100 amp
> Alternator installed by Miguel at MGM in 2014, so I'm hoping it is not bad.
>
> Comments and suggestions appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> --
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> Coachmen,Center Kitchen Floorplan
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator light on ... alternator is charging... [message #315099 is a reply to message #315095] Sat, 25 March 2017 10:57
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 08:01
Your earlier post said you removed it
Barton told you the alternato volts should be 15 volts
Read here
http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/engine.html#alternator

Is prob not the APC
15V sustained is too high, except in sub-zero tempeatures. But 13.6V minimum, generally. More than 14 after a long starter crank.


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Re: [GMCnet] Generator light on ... alternator is charging... [message #315100 is a reply to message #315099] Sat, 25 March 2017 10:59
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A Hamilto wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 10:57
Mr ERFisher wrote on Sat, 25 March 2017 08:01
Your earlier post said you removed it
Barton told you the alternato volts should be 15 volts
Read here
http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/engine.html#alternator

Is prob not the APC
15V sustained is too high, except in sub-zero tempeatures. But 13.6V minimum, generally. More than 14 after a long starter crank.
Oops. Forgot about the 0.7V drop across the isolator. 15V is not too high.


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Re: Generator light on ... alternator is charging... [message #315110 is a reply to message #312821] Sat, 25 March 2017 16:44
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He needs to tell us how and where he is metering. 13.6-14.2 is ok after the isolator. Where the 13 is metered is important as the sense to the alternator is after the isolator and 13 minus .7 would cause the lamp to glow.

John Lebetski
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator light on ... alternator is charging... [message #315111 is a reply to message #315110] Sat, 25 March 2017 17:17
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Here is the bible, do this
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/15/GMC_charging_system_checkout.pdf


On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:49 PM John R. Lebetski
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> He needs to tell us how and where he is metering. 13.6-14.2 is ok after
> the isolator. Where the 13 is metered is important as the sense to the
> alternator is after the isolator and 13 minus .7 would cause the lamp to
> glow.
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 Topic: [GMCnet] Looking for Amazon "shop" for GMC MotorHome
Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Amazon "shop" for GMC MotorHome [message #315112 is a reply to message #314952] Sat, 25 March 2017 17:23
Ronald Pottol is currently offline  Ronald Pottol   United States
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You can set your vehicle to be a 1975 GMC Transmode, or the appropriate
year Torondo

On Mar 20, 2017 08:50, "Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC"
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> Good day,
>
> I vaguely remember someone posting a link to a "shop" inside of
> Amazon.com that contained a number of items that fit our coaches.
>
> Anyone online with a better memory then me?!
>
> Thanks.
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