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| Re: [GMCnet] Fuel leak [message #93941 is a reply to message #93937 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 00:33 |
Mike Miller[1] Messages: 3 Registered: July 2010 |
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Bob Horton <bobsgmc@mts.net> wrote:
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> Thanks Bob. Could overfilling the tanks cause this?? I may have been
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Yes.
It is even more of a problem when filling with cool fuel then allowing the
fuel to warm up (and expand) without using some of it.
When working correctly:
The separator in the drivers side rear wheel-well is supposed to keep the
liquid from coming forward to the canister(s) behind the passenger front
wheel. The charcoal canister(s) are supposed to absorb the fumes keeping
them from being released into the air. There shouldn't be liquid fuel at
the canister(s). The vapors are pulled out of canister(s) by engine vacuum
-- when the engine is running. Note that California coaches came with two
canisters, other coaches came with one.
If the fuel IS coming from the canister(s):
1. Take your trip. Just do not top off the tanks if you are parking the
coach.
2. When done with your trip, check the fuel/vapor separator.
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| | Topic: External Generator: what brand/model ? |
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| | Topic: Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? |
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| Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93942 is a reply to message #93766 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 00:41 |
Ken Burton Messages: 3035 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana |
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| Sandra Price wrote on Thu, 29 July 2010 07:36 | Joe, maybe in the interval since 9-11 they have relaxed their requirements.
Coming back into CA the other day, we told them how much wine we had (two
five-litre boxes + one bottle) and they pulled us over for a search. The
search was mediocre. Told Bob they were looking for alcohol. Not real
friendly, but one was ok. Never asked for dog papers. It was about our
fourth crossing since June 29. We thought maybe the search was because of
so many recent crossings and our TX plates.
By the way, where do you live in Alabama? I grew up there and I think we
may be cousins...
Sandra Price
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One time I crossed the border 6 times in three days at the same border crossing station. Two times I had Canadians riding with me. On the last time when I finally went home the lady in the booth (US side) recognized me and just waved me through.
One of the times was a beer run to a local roadhouse we were only gone about 15 minutes. One was a run to the hardware store. The lady in the border crossing booth gave us directions on where to find two local hardware stores.
Some people live on one side and work o the other. They go in and out every day. I have one Canadian friend that makes one trip per week to pick up shipments from UPS on the south side of the border.
I do not think the number of times you cross makes much difference.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| | Topic: [GMCnet] I'm in love with my Onana again |
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'm in love with my Onana again [message #93944 is a reply to message #93756 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 00:55 |
Ken Burton Messages: 3035 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana |
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 29 July 2010 06:14 | Phil,
Lawrence never had a kit, nor did anyone else, AFAIK. You just buy a
Pertronix system and make your own bracket for mounting its sensor. IIRC,
my album lists the part number for the Olds 455 kit. I also tried the VW
kit, which Pertronix suggested might have more appropriate physical
characteristics -- it didn't.
Others have posted their installations, which have better brackets than I
installed on the few I've done.
One caution: be sure you buy the original Pertonix Ignitor, which uses a
rotating assembly of magnets to trigger the Hall Effect sensor (use one of
those magnets to mount in the Onan flywheel. DO NOT get the Ignitor II --
it does not use magnets, but detects the lobes on the original distributor
cam -- how, I don't know.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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I used the Olds one. In my opinion is was much easier to mount than the the VW one we did on Dan's coach. We had to make a bracket for Dan's . On mine we just formed the existing bracket to fit.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| | Topic: [GMCnet] New to us |
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| Re: [GMCnet] New to us [message #93945 is a reply to message #93904 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 01:03 |
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1977Production#0001 Messages: 103 Registered: January 2010 Location: Vallejo, California |
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Big welcome!!!
Tires: just threw away "new" 10 year old Michelin XPS tires (and the solid rubber ride) and went with very popular Load range E BFGoodrich commercial T/A's. The ride is now like velvet, cabinets don't shudder anymore. Just my experience 2 months ago. I just bought my Coach 6 mos ago.
Again, welcome and post your q's and adventures often!
Carlo
Carlo & Steven
1977 GMC Napa Valley
"Carbon Footprint"
Rear Twin Dry Bath
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| | Topic: Trailing Bogie - Fixing Toe Out |
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| Re: Trailing Bogie - Fixing Toe Out [message #93946 is a reply to message #93880 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 01:13 |
Ken Burton Messages: 3035 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana |
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| C Boyd wrote on Thu, 29 July 2010 18:17 |
| rvanwin wrote on Thu, 29 July 2010 17:57 | Just had a friend's coach in my barn to check a problem he is having with the right rear-rear tire. Camber was a little over 1 degree negative and about 1/2 degree negative on the rear-front. We shimmed the bogie and got back about a 1/2 degree. However, checking the toe, the rear-rear is about 1/2" toe-out. Looks like the rear trailing arm is bent. According to PO records, the tire and rim was replaced a number of years ago so we think it must have encountered a mishap. The new tire on that wheel has worn rapidly since the coach was purchased.
I've seen discussions about using a jack against a wall and using a porta-power. We can't use the wall because we need to go the other way. Can you put a porta-power between the frame and bogie to bend the arm? Do you position it back at the spindle box? Seems like this puts a lot of pressure on the pins but according to the discussions it appears that people have had success. Trying to find the best/least expensive approach.
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Sir: we did this to Howard Nylanders coach at Bean Station this year. Ken Burton went to a building supply store and brought us a 4' aluminum straight edge for $10. What we needed was a 4" short ram for the porta power. what we ended up with was JR Slaten`s 6" bottle jack cause the porta power was blowed out. It was a real party with many friends for support. I think Howard has a video posted somewhere? Any way we blocked up the coach and dumped the air out of that side and used 2 bottle jacks under the bogie arms and removed the wheels. we took the straight edge and put on the hubs front and rear. If we had a 4" short ram that worked it would have taken about 30 minutes. we looked like a nascar pit crew. It took a little longer with the 6" bottle jack cause we had to remove the shock and mounting stud to have just barley enough room. We ended up jacking 4 times ended up jacking past center about 3/8" IFRC? Not a hard job if you got 20 craftsmen in the crew.
Good Luck..
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I think the rulers I bought you were 5 foot ones. I have a pair of 6 foot ones in my hanger that I normally use, but unfortunately at the time they were 500 miles away.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| | Topic: [GMCnet] Dura-Cool/HC-12A source |
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dura-Cool/HC-12A source [message #93947 is a reply to message #93912 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 01:25 |
Ken Burton Messages: 3035 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana |
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| Bob de Kruyff wrote on Thu, 29 July 2010 20:38 | ""Did it sweat back to the compressor like 134a? How did you find the sweet spot? Vent outlet temperature? Do you have a sight glass?
Thanks... ""
Yes it did sweat on the low pressure line esp since the humidity is high right now. I do have a sight glass but with Duracool it is not a good indicator of charge. As far as finding the sweet spot, I looked at outlet temperature and frankly I could even feel it by hand on the low pressure line. So to find that spot, you have to add just a little charge once you start on the 3rd can and keep checking the outlet temps. It will peak (actually get coldest) and then will start warming up as you continue to add more. That's when you slowly bleed a bit off until you reach your previous coldest outlet temperature. Emery or Ken B are probably the probably the experts on this, but it seems pretty straight forward. If I do it again, I definitely will hunt down my old fashioned thermometer for more accurate outlet readings.
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You can get a digital meat thermometer at Wally World for under $10.00 in the housewares section. I have a couple of them around that I use for AC stuff.
Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dura-Cool/HC-12A source [message #93948 is a reply to message #93623 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 01:30 |
Ken Burton Messages: 3035 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana |
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| Ken Burton wrote on Wed, 28 July 2010 10:14 |
| k2gkk wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 18:23 |
Thanks, Ken Burton, Ken Henderson, and Chip.
The price at Worthington Ag Parts is $6.25 per 6 oz can,
the lowest of those referrals I have received so far.
Do I also need to get the WN-401 "Refrigerant, Duracool
Recharge Kit for R134a install kit" from Worthington Ag
Parts as well, Ken?
How about the WN71428L and WN71428H low and high side
fittings?
I am NOT experienced here, at all.
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> From: n9cv@comcast.net
> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:06:00 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Dura-Cool/HC-12A source
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> Worthington Ag Parts
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> http://www.worthingtonagparts.com/Low/catalog/InvMisc.Aspx
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> Look at the bottom of this list.
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> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Let me try to answer you questions on WN71428L and WN71428H
These two items are adapters that you screw on to existing R-12 fittings so you can attach R-134 style charging and monitoring hoses. If you still have R-12 style fittings then I would suggest that you need both of these. They will stay on the coach when you are done.
You can also buy these two fittings at WalMart or AutoZone and probably save a few dollars. They usually come in a bubble pack kit for $5.00 or $6.00. The kit includes both of them.
Once that kit, or the two Worthington adapters, are installed, you can use any R-134 charging hose. I recommended the charging hose with gauge from Walmart to charge your system with Duracool.
The WN401 from Worthington is way over priced in my opinion. Go to Walmart and get the hose with gauge assembly that I recommended for around $15.00 instead.
Ken B.
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I was at Wally World tonight so I checked on the recharge device (gauge and hose for R-134 /Duracool type cans). I did not have anything to write the number down but it cost $16.87. They also had the R-134 adapter kit for R-12 fittings for $11.00.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| | Topic: A question for those recently in Nova Scotia |
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| Re: [GMCnet] A question for those recently in Nova Scotia [message #93943 is a reply to message #93786 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 00:49 |
Ken Burton Messages: 3035 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana |
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Well you heard from Mr. Nova Scotia himself (Mike). You can take his advice to the bank and ignore all of the other rumors and stories you have heard elsewhere.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| | | Topic: New Owner |
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| Re: [GMCnet] New Owner [message #93939 is a reply to message #93844 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 00:02 |
Mike Miller[1] Messages: 3 Registered: July 2010 |
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Stick Miller <stickmiller@bellsouth.net>wrote:
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> Well, I finally did it. For better or for worse, I bought John Sharpe's 78
> Royale. He's going to deliver it to Americus.
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> From all accounts it is a pretty decent GMC....
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Stick, John,
From the pictures.... Nice coach! It is the kind of buy that makes you wish
you had a pile of cash waiting for the right coach.
I really like the modification of the bathroom. Enlarging the doorway and
turning the stool sideways, making the hallway into part of the bathroom,
but only when using "the room." I have been thinking of this modification
for my "keeper" coach.
Stick, Welcome to the obsession.
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| | | Topic: [GMCnet] What a great day at JR's GMC emporium, on the Orgn coast.(part 2) |
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| Re: [GMCnet] What a great day at JR's GMC emporium, on the Orgn coast.(part 2) [message #93951 is a reply to message #93550 ] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 03:35 |
Mr ERFisher Messages: 2721 Registered: August 2005 |
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not sure if you were talking to me??
but
I am trying to get to LV, wife does not want to go, Manny wants me to
drive, I want to take 23 on a shake down trip (not done tho)---
thinking , thinking
I like the EBL stuff, but not sure it is good to work the whole GMCMI around
it. I think less than 1 % (80 coaches) will ever go to it. I am sure the
Dick Patterson, JimB, SteveF, route (carburetors ;>) will be the route for
the majority.
the talks I would like to give/see at the GMCWS are:
"Fixing the Skin you are in"
which is about how to repair all of the materials that are on the GMC. I
have a web page on this, (not on line yet) but the masters of this are
Emery, and Faye.
"How to find those battery leaks"
ways to trouble search the little current leaks that cause most to
disconnect their batteries while in storage.
The things that are in everyone's future are your bushings, bearings, brakes
, coach mods, etc
Thanks for all of your work
gene
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
> Soooo,
> Are you going to have anything to share with the GMCWS follks this
> fall? Maybe some of all this technology?
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Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
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Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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