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| Re: [GMCnet] Resto GMC? Perhaps it is time [message #73238 is a reply to message #73218 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 06:32 |
 Steven Ferguson
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Jim,
Steve Stolley purchased a coach Cinnabar rebuilt for public sale.
The price was steep (IMHO) but the coach is flawless, inside, outside
and underneath. We met up at a park about a days drive from Pueblo
and I finally go a chance to look over the coach. They must've gutted
it and replaced everything inside and outside including the
infrastructure. I was very impressed. Maybe Steve will chime in
here.
Anyone ever swing by DeLorean Motor Co. and see how they're
progressing with their plans to reman the GMC coach? James Espey is
the manager there and has all the info.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Jim Galbavy <j.galbavy@att.net> wrote:
I don't think Cinnabar's business plan is rebuilding GMCs for resale
to the public. I think they are rebuilding for owners. I bet those
that they advertise for sale are because the owners are in over their
heads while being worked on and this way the cash flow continues. ....
or are coaches that they advertise for the owners for sale.
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Steve Ferguson
'76 EII
Sierra Vista, AZ
Urethane bushing source
www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Resto GMC? Perhaps it is time [message #73242 is a reply to message #73211 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 07:41 |
storm'n
Messages: 208
Registered: April 2007
Location: Ont. Can |
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Rob, I've been watching Cinnabar's website for nearly 3 years. Those 3 coaches have been listed for at least a year & probably 2. I visited Cinnabar 3 years ago this coming July. They had about 15 GMC's stored in a barn at the local fairgrounds. Some were their's & the rest were cutomer storage. They told me they do all the mech. & then finish them after they're sold so the buyer can pick fabric, colour, layout, paint, etc. I saw one they were working on that was totally gutted & they were doing a new plywood floor.
Their website hasn't been updated since last March. What's with that?
Regards, Norm.
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I will monitor the Cinnabar website and let you know when the units they
have listed sell.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Bozardt
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 10:06 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Resto GMC? Perhaps it is time
Hey Rob, That's it Cinnabar is doing what I'm suggesting. It does not appear
that they do a frame off restoration-maybe they do-antway-my idea is not to
do a frame off restoration, maybe sandblast the frame from underneath where
needed.
Some guys are talking different chassis, engines, etc. That is not what I
had in mind. Jim Galbavy's posts suggest he knows exactly where I am coming
from. If Country Coach has gone under, that is indeed a shame, but so many
others have gone down too and I think they are largely responsible for their
own demise. How many people can afford a $300-600k coach? Then, why would
you want to pay that kind of money for something you use let's say, 60 days
a year. Too many mfg building too many expensive motorhomes-and/or too many
different models. Just my opinion.
But people still buy RVs. Don't believe it? Log onto PPL Mothoromes here in
Houston. They are consignment dealers and they sell about 1000 RVs a year.
But we are not concerned with the high end, but rather the low end-but
quality low end at $55-60k.
For the nay sayers. how do you explain the GMC motorhome's longevity beyond
every other 70's RV, even Winnebago??
Maybe that is why Cinnabar is redoing them!......Thx, Michael
at GEMRECS
Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 14:06
> Michael,
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> I did a bit of research and it appears that you are correct and the RV
> industry is rebounding a bit. Sales are up.
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> Unfortunately IMHO the costs to start up a company to build, market, and
> service an updated GMC from scratch would be astronomical.
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> If one wanted to keep the front wheel drive feature the biggest stumbling
> block would be the power train (especially the transmission / final
drive).
> AFAIK there isn't any FWD engine / trans / final drive combination out
there
> that would have enough power for a 26' GMC.
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> Then there's all the DOT and EPA regulations you'd have to comply with to
> certify the vehicle.
>
> As far as noting that a restored $70K GMC is competitive with the new
> motorhomes is concerned the question that should be asked is has anybody
> SOLD one for $70K? I went to the Cinnabar website and copied the ads for
the
> following three coaches, check back from time to time to see if/when they
> sell:
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> GMC Motorhome Sales
> 1978 Birchaven 23-foot, Rear Bath. To Be Completely Renovated And
> Mechanically Renewed At Cinnabar Engineering, Inc. 69,000 Original Miles.
> One Owner California Coach. Pick Your Colors, Carpet, Fabrics, Appliances
> And Electronics. Eighteen-month Unlimited Mileage Warranty. $65,000 Base
> Price. Call 231-946-8847 For More Information.
>
> 1977 Kingsley 26-foot, Dry Bath. Completely Renovated And Mechanically
> Renewed. 69,441 Original Miles. 455-cid Engine. Rear Twin-Bed Model. In
> Process At Cinnabar Engineering, Inc. Mechanical renewal is almost
complete.
> Pick Your Colors, Carpet, Fabrics, Appliances And Electronics.
> Eighteen-month Unlimited Mileage Warranty. $65,000 Base Price. Call
> 231-946-8847 For More Information.
>
> 1977 Palm Beach 26-foot, Side Bath. Solid Cherry And Leather Interior.
> 46,366 Original Miles. 455-cid Engine. One Owner California Coach. In
> Process At Cinnabar Engineering, Inc. Solid Cherry Cabinetry. Leather
Pilot
> And Copilot Seats And Dashboard. Solid Surface Surell Countertops. Pick
Your
> Colors, Fabrics, Appliances And Electronics. Eighteen-month Unlimited
> Mileage Warranty. $85,000 Base Price. Call 231-946-8847 For More
> Information.
>
> Let's face it we're all in love with the GMC and we look at them through
> rose colored glasses.
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> Michael, you're not wacky at all; I reckon your glasses are just a bit
> rosier than some! ;)
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> All the best!
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| | Topic: [GMCnet] Good Sam Emergency Road Service |
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Sam Emergency Road Service [message #73236 is a reply to message #73228 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 06:04 |
k2gkk
Messages: 136
Registered: November 2009 |
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Don't even begin to think about insuring motorcycles with them!
They are extremely high, no matter what your driving record!
Mac Macdonald
Oklahoma City
49-year USAA Member
(autos and trucks only)
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From: ken0henderson@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:30:09 -0500
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Good Sam Emergency Road Service
If anyone's envious of those of us USAA members with our great service and
reasonable rates, here's some new news: USAA recently opened membership to
any veteran (with, I'm sure, some exceptions).
From originally being a small group of US Army officers, the company grew to
encompass officers of all services. Over the past few years, membership was
extended first to children of members, then NCO''s, then other enlisted
personnel. Along the way they extended to retired individuals of those
ranks, and now to all veterans. It's one of the biggest and highest rated
companies in the insurance business, and also have a Federal Bank unit, a
brokerage service, an other member-support features. Almost all of my
financial matters are handled through them. I don't recall having ever had
an error and have never had a disagreement with them. That during over 60
years, including my time as a dependent of an Army officer.
If you've served in a US military service, you should investigate at
www.usaa.com.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Sam Emergency Road Service [message #73243 is a reply to message #73236 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 07:54 |
Jim Galbavy
Messages: 834
Registered: August 2007 |
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USAA rates too high on motorcycles? I didn't see that. My bike is insured with PROGRESSIVE thru USAA at a better rate than if I was insured direct thru PROGRESSIVE. ....and they also beat out DAIRYLAND. Years ago that was the case that they didn't want to insure motorcycles and did quote me high, but when I inquired about them insuring the GMC, I asked about the motorcycle in passing and was quoted a great rate.
JWID
jim galbavy
'73 X-CL (ANNIE)
Chesterfield, Va
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Sam Emergency Road Service [message #73247 is a reply to message #73207 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 09:02 |
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RF_Burns
Messages: 501
Registered: June 2008
Location: S. Ontario, Canada |
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Garage was great, they specialized in motorhomes. They made room to bring us in and checked for loose flex plate, but that wasn't it. Then used a mechanic's stethoscope and determined it was #7 rod bearing.
They gave me a price of 7k to pull the engine, have it rebuilt and re-install it. We decided to cut our loses and get a tow home.
Had my local fleet garage that I use for all my vehicles pull the engine/tranny. I took it to Dick Patterson for rebuilding as he had no exchange engines at the time.
I would have taken it to Borrmann's but that would have been another couple hours away. So I had to have a frame built to pull the engine. On the other hand the garage wasn't busy so it stayed on their lift for 3 weeks and I was able to pull the fuel tanks and renew all the fuel lines, socks etc. They put in the Bushings I got from Steve Ferguson. Few other things while it was up there. I would not have been able to do that if it was not local.
Bruce Hislop,
S. Ontario Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI and ESC.
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| | Topic: [GMCnet] Belt line |
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| [GMCnet] Belt line [message #73249] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 09:12 |
2-4 the road
Messages: 8
Registered: June 2009
Location: N.Little Rock, Arkansas |
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Thanks to all the input, Bill is relieved!! Guess we will do the best we can
with the best body caulk and eyebrows especially over the power/water box
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| Re: [GMCnet] In the movies [message #73255 is a reply to message #73189 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 10:06 |
WayneB
Messages: 164
Registered: July 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada |
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Did anyone notice there are actually 2 GMC Motorhomes in that pic?
There is an orange one to the left/ahead of the yellow one.
1976 23' GMCII By Explorer
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| | Topic: Rick Denney/Sort of GMC MH related |
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| Rick Denney/Sort of GMC MH related [message #73257] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 10:16 |
kingd
Messages: 94
Registered: June 2004 |
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Anyone heard from Rick ?? Did he get buried in the east Coast snow ??
Rick if you are out there, your version of what happened at your place during the recent snow storm would be great.
In Toront we have next to no snow coverage at this time but may get 1-2 inches Tuesday night, but it's COLD !!!
DAVE KING
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| Re: Rick Denney/Sort of GMC MH related [message #73259 is a reply to message #73257 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 10:26 |
shawnee
Messages: 232
Registered: February 2004
Location: NC |
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| kingd wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 11:16 |
Anyone heard from Rick ?? Did he get buried in the east Coast snow ??
Rick if you are out there, your version of what happened at your place during the recent snow storm would be great.
In Toront we have next to no snow coverage at this time but may get 1-2 inches Tuesday night, but it's COLD !!!
DAVE KING
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Dave,
If you are homesick for snow come the Hickory, North Carolina area. We have had snow on the ground for the last month and temperatures at night in the low teens. Totally unusual. This global warming is getting serious and if gets worse we will freeze.
Gene Dotson
74 Canyonlands
www.bdub.net/Motorhome_Enhancements
New Windows and Aluminum Radiators
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| | Topic: [GMCnet] GMCnet - Forum Interface |
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet - Forum Interface [message #73235 is a reply to message #73215 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 04:05 |
Ken Burton
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Registered: January 2004
Location: Hebron, Indiana |
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Thanks Chuck
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet - Forum Interface [message #73246 is a reply to message #72964 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 08:56 |
WayneB
Messages: 164
Registered: July 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada |
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I only post on the forum, I got out of GMC Net as it was bombarding me with emails every time someone posted and I find emails something of a chore as I have to answer so many in a day. 
I myself are not really interested in most of the subjects chewed over on here constantly, but like more the design, visual and historical aspects of our motorhomes, which is why I like to see and post up images on the forum (tainting the place according to one member) 
IMO If you want to attract younger people to this forum, a change to a more up to date graphic format would work wonders, but I dont want to upset the regulars who like it like it is.
[Updated on: Mon, 08 February 2010 09:02]
1976 23' GMCII By Explorer
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet - Forum Interface [message #73261 is a reply to message #73215 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 10:51 |
idrob
Messages: 544
Registered: January 2005
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| C Boyd wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 16:59 |
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Sir: When you make a post on the forum and go back and read your own post there is an extra tab on the lower right "edit". This is in case you made a spelling error and want to correct the post on the forum. Since your original post was sent to all e-mail users they get the misspelling. The edited version only replaces your original post on the forum. This special edit tab is only on your posts and does not allow other users to edit your posts. It has nothing to do with you editing or snipping the quoted post. Hope this helps... [/quote]
Ah, thanks. Now I understand.
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| | Topic: OEM Vacuum System |
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| Re: OEM Vacuum System [message #73252 is a reply to message #73203 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 09:46 |
jwillard
Messages: 116
Registered: May 2004
Location: Silver City, NM |
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Thanks,
I'll plug it in today and make sure it runs. Send me an address so I can figure out the shipping costs.
Jeff Willard
Silver City, NM
1973 ex-Glacier
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| Re: OEM Vacuum System [message #73262 is a reply to message #73252 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 11:00 |
Ron
Messages: 545
Registered: February 2004
Location: Conifer, Colorado |
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Jeff..
Sent PM..
Ron
76 Eleganza II
Conifer, CO
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| | Topic: Plastic Heat duct part |
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| Re: [GMCnet] Plastic Heat duct part [message #73263 is a reply to message #73208 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 11:01 |
jwillard
Messages: 116
Registered: May 2004
Location: Silver City, NM |
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If you want it for freight costs, just let me know. It's clean out time and don't want to just take it to the dump.
Jeff Willard
Silver City, NM
1973 ex-Glacier
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| Re: [GMCnet] Plastic Heat duct part [message #73265 is a reply to message #73263 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 11:05 |
Kingsley Coach
Messages: 256
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Jeff
I'll get you to send it to Las Cruces ...I'll give you the address off line.
Mike
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Jeff Willard <jwillard@oac-inc.com> wrote:
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> If you want it for freight costs, just let me know. It's clean out time and
> don't want to just take it to the dump.
> --
> Jeff Willard
> Silver City, NM
> 1973 ex-Glacier
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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| | Topic: Rear View Camera Recommendations |
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear View Camera Recommendations [message #73237 is a reply to message #73229 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 06:19 |
Steven Ferguson
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I put that one on my truckEmery, and it always had some kind of
intereference thing going on. It's somewhere in the shop in a
cabinet. May have been something with the truck (diesel), I don't
know. For hooking up my trailer I picked up one of those swift hitch
magnetic mount cameras with a hand held display. Beautiful picture
and sure makes hooking up with the truck or motorhomes an easy process
when alone.
I did have a rear view camera mounted inside the rear window with a
monitor on the dash but eventually removed it. Once you've watched
your towed following you for a few miles, it gets rather boring.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> here is mine, no holes, no mods
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=19378&cat=4653
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> gene
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Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear View Camera Recommendations [message #73260 is a reply to message #73237 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 10:50 |
learjet
Messages: 6
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I used a pepboys wirless camera on my 5th wheel traler, it had lots of interference with cell phone signels.
Ed Geise
marana az
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| Re: Rear View Camera Recommendations [message #73266 is a reply to message #73225 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 11:14 |
Jim Galbavy
Messages: 834
Registered: August 2007 |
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Gene,
Say it isn't so. That is what was part of the charm and fun at Bean Station or any other Dixielander Rally. ....I could tell before even checking in where ya'll were. gon'a miss that.
jim galbavy
X-CL (ANNIE)
Chesterfield, Va
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