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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239729 is a reply to message #239661] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 15:45   |
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USAussie
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Tony,
I was given a BIG tube of the stuff by a generous GMCer and since then I use it whenever I mess with any electrical connections.
A while back I asked the question if it would help or create more problems if I were to break every plug in connection on a GMC,
clean it, apply dielectric grease, and reconnect it.
I thought it would be a good thing to do as it would return the connections in the electrical systems to as new; in fact it might
even be better than as new.
IIRC the general consensus agreed with me.
It would be a hell of a lot of work though!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony
When I was working full time I used dielectric grease all the time. I used it on sparkplug wires and any elcetrical connection I had
to work on.
I was reading the post about voltage drop and it got me to thinking.
I was wondering how many people use it and then it got me to thinking how many people keep it in their RV?
So I thought I do a poll.
I use it - but none of our RVs are road worthy at this time. :d
However, I will have some in all our RVs for break downs and to help other RV owners in need.
Tony
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239740 is a reply to message #239729] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 16:49 |
Ultravan Owners
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| USAussie wrote on Wed, 12 February 2014 16:45 |
Tony,
I was given a BIG tube of the stuff by a generous GMCer and since then I use it whenever I mess with any electrical connections.
A while back I asked the question if it would help or create more problems if I were to break every plug in connection on a GMC,
clean it, apply dielectric grease, and reconnect it.
I thought it would be a good thing to do as it would return the connections in the electrical systems to as new; in fact it might
even be better than as new.
IIRC the general consensus agreed with me.
It would be a hell of a lot of work though!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony
When I was working full time I used dielectric grease all the time. I used it on sparkplug wires and any elcetrical connection I had
to work on.
I was reading the post about voltage drop and it got me to thinking.
I was wondering how many people use it and then it got me to thinking how many people keep it in their RV?
So I thought I do a poll.
I use it - but none of our RVs are road worthy at this time. 
However, I will have some in all our RVs for break downs and to help other RV owners in need.
Tony
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Rob,
If it ain’t broke don't fix it!
I use the stuff when I have to fix a wire, connector, install a distributor or battery.
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV? [message #239743 is a reply to message #239740] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 16:57 |
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USAussie
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Tony,
I grew up in the aerospace industry where we fix it before it breaks, no place to pull over and park at 30,000 feet! ;-)
Aren't you glad?
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony
Rob,
If it ain't broke don't fix it!
I use the stuff when I have to fix a wire, connector, install a distributor or battery.
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Tony
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239770 is a reply to message #239702] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 18:20 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""I thought Tony started this discussion....where did this one come from ??
Guess my nap was a bit longer than I thought...
Mike in NS""
This stuff is used in a lot of applications that reside in high temperature environments. I won't mention the specifics, but there have been fires that can be sustained or caused by dielectric grease.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239816 is a reply to message #239661] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 08:37 |
JohnL455
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It's strange stuff. By name it means it resists electrical conduction. At Amana I brought this up to Dick P and we layed out a small bead of it and checked it with the Ohm meter. No reading on any scale. Yet on metal you could probe through it and get 0 Ohms.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239818 is a reply to message #239738] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 08:48 |
Mr ERFisher
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i use them for containers
i have the grease with me at all times in the gmc
in the caps
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Tony <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Mr ERFisher wrote on Wed, 12 February 2014 11:23
> > this is what i use
> >
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-distribution-using-circuit-breakers/p35550-terminal-covers-for-breakers.html
> >
> > handy little cups of grease, and
> > i can store them on my terminals
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Tony <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > >
> > >
> > > When I was working full time I used dielectric grease all the time. I
> used
> > > it on sparkplug wires and any elcetrical connection I had to work on.
> > >
> > > I was reading the post about voltage drop and it got me to thinking.
> > > I was wondering how many people use it and then it got me to thinking
> how
> > > many people keep it in their RV?
> > >
> > > So I thought I do a poll.
> > >
> > > I use it - but none of our RVs are road worthy at this time. :d
> > > However, I will have some in all our RVs for break downs and to help
> other
> > > RV owners in need.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tony (Ontario Canada) Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd
> chance
> > > to buy our farm. Someday I hope to build the garage of my dreams. We
> have
> > > 4 Ultravans & 2 Corvairs. Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado
> 455
> > > in back.
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> Gene,
>
> What you are talking about might work well with stud connectors.
> But what about plug in wire connectors and your 3/4 wire HEI Distributor
> connection or module.
>
> Some might recall the days when the dist module(sp) in Chevy's would heat
> up after you parked the car for a little while and when you came back out
> to start it - it would not start = due to the module overheating.
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> Dielectric grease has been used under them for many years.
>
> Good Stuff in my book.
>
> --
> Tony (Ontario Canada) Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance
> to buy our farm. Someday I hope to build the garage of my dreams. We have
> 4 Ultravans & 2 Corvairs. Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455
> in back.
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| Re: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239834 is a reply to message #239816] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 10:31 |
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Matt Colie
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| JohnL455 wrote on Thu, 13 February 2014 09:37 |
It's strange stuff. By name it means it resists electrical conduction. At Amana I brought this up to Dick P and we layed out a small bead of it and checked it with the Ohm meter. No reading on any scale. Yet on metal you could probe through it and get 0 Ohms.
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Di-electric grease is about as bad a label as one can be. With a VERY FEW specific exceptions in materials formulated to be conductive lubricants, everything you know as a "grease" is dielectric and will not conduct any amount on its own.
Those of us that have used this for a long time know this as silicon grease. Real silicon grease is neat, it retains its physical properties over a very wide temperature range. When Dow-Corning first developed the material is was though to be the answer to high altitude low temperature lubrication so needed in the new B-29s.
Just one problem....
It has nearly ZERO film strength. (Can You Say - Flop?)
That high film strength is exactly what makes normal greases - "grease".
At that time the practice of greasing corrosion sensitive connections was well established and only partly successful because of the problem caused by the film strength of any normal lubricating grease. Someone saw the match. When the silicon (aka dielectric) grease replaced the lubricating grease, reliability soared.
Amusing story from an older fellow at GM Tech Center follows.
While the practice was well known in the marine trades, it didn't really get big until the early ECU controlled engines started dying due to bad connections. GM issued a memorandum to "Grease" the connections of any vehicle that had such problems with already stock connection grease in the inventory. Problem... "There is always some fool that doesn't get the Word..." When chassis grease was used, it didn't do the job because it was often good enough to keep the metal parts of the contacts from making contact.. Hence, crates of "GM Dielectric Grease" was shipped to dealerships with explicit instructions for its use and non-use.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239858 is a reply to message #239677] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 13:00 |
mikethebike
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BellSouth used these in outside plant terminals. They work well. LPS II works just as well but is flammable. The LPS worked so well, you could spray it inside an ONI on front beach Folly, come back in 4 years and have ZERO corrosion, no bugs, spiders or anything other than sand inside the ONI.
| Mr ERFisher wrote on Wed, 12 February 2014 10:23 |
this is what i use
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-distribution-using-circuit-breakers/p35550-terminal-covers-for-breakers.html
handy little cups of grease, and
i can store them on my terminals
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Tony <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> When I was working full time I used dielectric grease all the time. I used
> it on sparkplug wires and any elcetrical connection I had to work on.
>
> I was reading the post about voltage drop and it got me to thinking.
> I was wondering how many people use it and then it got me to thinking how
> many people keep it in their RV?
>
> So I thought I do a poll.
>
> I use it - but none of our RVs are road worthy at this time.
> However, I will have some in all our RVs for break downs and to help other
> RV owners in need.
>
>
> --
> Tony (Ontario Canada) Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance
> to buy our farm. Someday I hope to build the garage of my dreams. We have
> 4 Ultravans & 2 Corvairs. Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455
> in back.
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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