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Intake Manifold Poll [message #221424] Sat, 07 September 2013 01:00 Go to next message
jturbo is currently offline  jturbo   United Kingdom
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Intakes which do you have[ 29 votes ]
1. Stock intake 7 / 24%
2. Stock intake blocked crossover 15 / 52%
3. Rockwell intake 4 / 14%
4. Edelbrock intake 3 / 10%
5. Other 0 / 0%

How Many of you have blocked off the crossover and still running stock intake?

How many have not blocked the crossover?

Rockwell intake is it any good I read some things that say it did not fit correctly?

Edelbrock intakes does the torque give you an advantage over either of the above?


If you did update or block the crossover has it made any difference in drivability or cooling?


1978 Royal 403 1977 Birchaven 455 1977 Kingsley 455 All under Upgrading and restoration Rosemead California
Re: Intake Manifold Poll [message #221444 is a reply to message #221424] Sat, 07 September 2013 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bobby5832708 is currently offline  bobby5832708   United States
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I've got the first Rockwell manifold that Jim Bounds sold, installed it somewhere around late 2009 or early 2010, and it still works fine. This is on an original engine, no metal removed from the head surfaces, so this may be one reason why I don't have any leaks. I used a Mr Gasket gasket set and grey Permatex silicone for this installation.

The engine runs better because the carb isn't boiling like it used to, especially after a quick rest-area stop on a hot day. Hot engine restarts are quick (a second or two of cranking) and no stumbling or hesitation afterwards.


Bob Heller
2017 Winnebago 29VE
Winter Springs FL

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Re: [GMCnet] Intake Manifold Poll [message #221451 is a reply to message #221424] Sat, 07 September 2013 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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John,
Careful installation is the key sentence here. I would not have a GMC
without blocked crossovers. The benefits by far, outweigh the only
drawback and that would be having to purchase an ele choke kit
Steve F.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:00 PM, john <tg16jturbo@mac.com> wrote:

>
>
> How Many of you have blocked off the crossover and still running stock
> intake?
>
> How many have not blocked the crossover?
>
> Rockwell intake is it any good I read some things that say it did not fit
> correctly?
>
> Edelbrock intakes does the torque give you an advantage over either of the
> above?
>
>
> If you did update or block the crossover has it made any difference in
> drivability or cooling?
> --
> 1978 Royal 403
> 1977 Birchaven 455
> 1977 Kingsley 455
>
> All under Upgrading and restoration
>
> Rosemead California
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Re: [GMCnet] Intake Manifold Poll [message #221480 is a reply to message #221451] Sat, 07 September 2013 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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I personally have installed 4 Rockwell Intake manifolds. I have personally
never had an ill fitting one yet. I have re-installed one that had major
vacuum and oil pumping from the valley. It was improperly installed and was
not the fault of the manifold. The aluminum intake does not extend downward
into the valley as far as the cast iron ones do, and will not tolerate
misalignment due to this fact. If you use the correct gaskets, and the
right sealers, and carefully align the manifold, you should have no trouble
with fit. If the deck surfaces, head surfaces have been cut, then you need
to trial fit the intake without gaskets and measure what's what before you
install it. JWID. Definitely block the crossovers on iron manifolds, and
check them for cracks as well. It is not a question of, Will they crack? It
is a statement of, Have they cracked yet?
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:

> John,
> Careful installation is the key sentence here. I would not have a GMC
> without blocked crossovers. The benefits by far, outweigh the only
> drawback and that would be having to purchase an ele choke kit
> Steve F.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:00 PM, john <tg16jturbo@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > How Many of you have blocked off the crossover and still running stock
> > intake?
> >
> > How many have not blocked the crossover?
> >
> > Rockwell intake is it any good I read some things that say it did not fit
> > correctly?
> >
> > Edelbrock intakes does the torque give you an advantage over either of
> the
> > above?
> >
> >
> > If you did update or block the crossover has it made any difference in
> > drivability or cooling?
> > --
> > 1978 Royal 403
> > 1977 Birchaven 455
> > 1977 Kingsley 455
> >
> > All under Upgrading and restoration
> >
> > Rosemead California
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>
>
>
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Intake Manifold Poll [message #221500 is a reply to message #221480] Sat, 07 September 2013 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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blocking crossover

What are you doing to block it?

and where do you get the stuff to do it?

or is it just a gasket that people use or is it both?


1978 Royal 403 1977 Birchaven 455 1977 Kingsley 455 All under Upgrading and restoration Rosemead California
Re: [GMCnet] Intake Manifold Poll [message #221503 is a reply to message #221500] Sat, 07 September 2013 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Applied Gmc has what you need, as does Dick Paterson, who makes the
stainless steel block off plates..Mondello also has the right stuff.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Sep 7, 2013 11:09 AM, "john" <tg16jturbo@mac.com> wrote:

>
>
> blocking crossover
>
> What are you doing to block it?
>
> and where do you get the stuff to do it?
>
> or is it just a gasket that people use or is it both?
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Re: [GMCnet] Intake Manifold Poll [message #221507 is a reply to message #221500] Sat, 07 September 2013 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George Beckman is currently offline  George Beckman   United States
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jturbo wrote on Sat, 07 September 2013 11:09

blocking crossover

What are you doing to block it?

and where do you get the stuff to do it?

or is it just a gasket that people use or is it both?


I believe some are not as blocked as they think. I recently helped pull the intake on a 403 that had been blocked for 60k miles. Dick Paterson says the exhaust "barks" at the plate. Both plates we removed had a holes starting to appear.

So, on your mind's eye you can sort of imagine how your blocked off manifold is doing.

And that coach has a single muffler in back.


'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
Re: [GMCnet] Intake Manifold Poll [message #221540 is a reply to message #221500] Sat, 07 September 2013 18:43 Go to previous message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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jturbo wrote on Sat, 07 September 2013 13:09

blocking crossover

What are you doing to block it?

and where do you get the stuff to do it?

or is it just a gasket that people use or is it both?
You will need two of these

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/827
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