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Vince Behm is currently offline  Vince Behm   United States
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I have a 1976 26' Elaganza and I need to purchase a generator. I have two
A/C's and would like to keep the house batteries in the generator
compartment. Any suggestions, both size (Kw) and manufacturer?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #63132 is a reply to message #63101] Wed, 04 November 2009 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vince Behm wrote on Wed, 04 November 2009 11:49

I have a 1976 26' Elaganza and I need to purchase a generator. I have two
A/C's and would like to keep the house batteries in the generator
compartment. Any suggestions, both size (Kw) and manufacturer?

Thanks in advance!

--
Vince Behm
Goodman Glass Co.
www.goodglass.com
757-826-1444(w)
757-826-7681(f)
757-876-7778(c)



Note: The house batteries are normally in the generator compartment next to the generator on a 1976 GM fitted coach.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #324545 is a reply to message #63101] Mon, 02 October 2017 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron and Carol Barkley schrieb/wrote
> the original generator. It turns over but will not start.

did you check the defaults? Enough oil, enough gas?

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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #324550 is a reply to message #324545] Mon, 02 October 2017 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Find another mechanic.
Jump terminal 5 and 9 to bypass safety's and prime the fuel pump. All ya
need to do is figure out what the problem is and fix it.
Make sure it's getting fuel consistently. At least 25 gallons of fuel
available with coach sitting level, Non porous fuel lines, working fuel
pump, clean filter(s), screen in the bottom of the fuel pump clean.
Make sure it's getting spark. Spark plugs, wires, Points, capacitors, or
electronic ignition (the cats meow!).
It's a very simple system. Replacement is a lot more trouble and cost and
might not be any better.
JMO
bdub

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC <
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> Ron and Carol Barkley schrieb/wrote
>> the original generator. It turns over but will not start.
>
> did you check the defaults? Enough oil, enough gas?
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #324559 is a reply to message #63101] Mon, 02 October 2017 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vince Behm wrote on Wed, 04 November 2009 10:49
I have a 1976 26' Elaganza and I need to purchase a generator. I have two
A/C's and would like to keep the house batteries in the generator
compartment. Any suggestions, both size (Kw) and manufacturer?

Thanks in advance!

--
Vince Behm
Goodman Glass Co.
www.goodglass.com
757-826-1444(w)
757-826-7681(f)
757-876-7778(c)
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Ideally, a good running OE 6-Kw Onan power drawer is the best option, maybe the only option of you want your batteries in the rear. At their current age, they tend to be somewhat problematic and people like to replace them, but they were MADE to fit the coach.

Unless the problem is in the AC end (and that can be fixed too) they normally will run with a few basic repairs. Fuel pumps tend to be a problem along with the lines feeding them, coils seem to go out, but rarely, and the control boards have issues sometimes, along with the LOP switch. The design and the RPMs they rum make them run virtually forever.

I recently replaced my high hour Onan with a "refurbished" unit I bought from another GMCer, After having problems with the fuel pump and the ignition on the 'new' one, I was kicking myself for changing my old reliable unit for the refurbished one, but since fixing a few items, it runs great.

I still have the old generator, complete and would like to get what I can out of it, but I am in Tucson, a rather long distance from you. Plug: If anyone who is coming to the April, 2018 GMCMI is interested, it will be available.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member

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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325694 is a reply to message #63101] Fri, 03 November 2017 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We had a neighbor woman across the street who would regularly drive through the neighborhood looking for stuff that offended her. I referred to her as wicked witch Helen. She said she was going to run for city council to expand her reach. Thankfully, she moved to a snobby neighborhood 20 miles diagonally to the northwest side of Oklahoma City about six or eight months ago. I am positive the folks who had to work under her supervision at Tinker Air Force Base are singing the country song "Thank God and Greyhound She's Gone!"


I'm pretty sure she's the one who turned me in for my GMC in the driveway. I checked with code enforcement and the requirement was that the space between the street gutter and the "obstruction" had to be at least 11 feet, 6 inches. I was able to get my GMC close enough to the garage to get to 11 feet, 7 inches spacing!


Things at Rancho Cambodia have certainly changed since wife and I lived there (10300 South White Rock Road) from May '62 to Feb '63. This was a brand new development of duplexes just outside the main gate of Mather AFB where I was a student.


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Jim,
The specs are a lot looser for the older engines. The newer engines have to
be pretty clean to pass.
Rich,
When I moved into Sacramento County I felt like there were a lot of rules
that I thought were absurd coming from Idaho. Rancho Cordova became a city
and most of the board of supervisors live in HOAs some of them gated. They
have changed zoning and done about all they could to make the rest of the
city more like an HOA. This spring the limited the concrete in our front
yards to 40% and imposed a 5-foot setback from side property line. I live
on a corner lot with a very little front yard. The last day before the
zoning package went into effect I poured a 5-foot wide concrete strip next
to my property line. I had set up to have a company come in and replace my
driveway with a wider driveway over to my property line. 2-days before I
poured he told me they could not make the date.

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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325695 is a reply to message #325694] Fri, 03 November 2017 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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There does not seem to be a shortage of
people who are willing to tend to other people's business. That is why I
live outside of any known city limits. When I drive into the city for
commercial reasons, it is a constant reminder of why I do. The grafitti,
and major apartment complexes and homeless encampments, and megamarts,
traffic, rude people, NOISE POLLUTION, the list goes on. I pull back into
my driveway, often greeted by several blacktail deer, or a covey of quail
and my dog wagging her welcome greeting is a nice reminder, too. Don't
anticipate changing anytime soon.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Nov 3, 2017 9:20 AM, "D C _Mac_ Macdonald" wrote:

> We had a neighbor woman across the street who would regularly drive
> through the neighborhood looking for stuff that offended her. I referred
> to her as wicked witch Helen. She said she was going to run for city
> council to expand her reach. Thankfully, she moved to a snobby
> neighborhood 20 miles diagonally to the northwest side of Oklahoma City
> about six or eight months ago. I am positive the folks who had to work
> under her supervision at Tinker Air Force Base are singing the country song
> "Thank God and Greyhound She's Gone!"
>
>
> I'm pretty sure she's the one who turned me in for my GMC in the
> driveway. I checked with code enforcement and the requirement was that the
> space between the street gutter and the "obstruction" had to be at least 11
> feet, 6 inches. I was able to get my GMC close enough to the garage to get
> to 11 feet, 7 inches spacing!
>
>
> Things at Rancho Cambodia have certainly changed since wife and I lived
> there (10300 South White Rock Road) from May '62 to Feb '63. This was a
> brand new development of duplexes just outside the main gate of Mather AFB
> where I was a student.
>
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of John
> Phillips
> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 04:11
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Generator
>
> Jim,
> The specs are a lot looser for the older engines. The newer engines have to
> be pretty clean to pass.
> Rich,
> When I moved into Sacramento County I felt like there were a lot of rules
> that I thought were absurd coming from Idaho. Rancho Cordova became a city
> and most of the board of supervisors live in HOAs some of them gated. They
> have changed zoning and done about all they could to make the rest of the
> city more like an HOA. This spring the limited the concrete in our front
> yards to 40% and imposed a 5-foot setback from side property line. I live
> on a corner lot with a very little front yard. The last day before the
> zoning package went into effect I poured a 5-foot wide concrete strip next
> to my property line. I had set up to have a company come in and replace my
> driveway with a wider driveway over to my property line. 2-days before I
> poured he told me they could not make the date.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325703 is a reply to message #325695] Fri, 03 November 2017 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
johnd01 is currently offline  johnd01   United States
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If I was in the county and had room for a 5-foot setback I would need a
permit but for a shipping container but all residential zones allow them
with a permit. The city was advertised as we are paying more taxes to the
county than they are spending in our area. How does that explain why they
raised our sales tax 1/2%. They are trying to get our property values up.
The house next door sold for $220,500 4/16/2015 and now Zillow has it
estimated at $285,848. 3 beds 2 bath 1253 sq feet on a 7,310 sq foot lot.
My lot is 9,240, with the new zoning I do not have room to add anything.

When I moved here I was about 5 miles east of Sacramento which was the
closest city. I thought I was safe.

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:34 AM, James Hupy wrote:

> There does not seem to be a shortage of
> people who are willing to tend to other people's business. That is why I
> live outside of any known city limits. When I drive into the city for
> commercial reasons, it is a constant reminder of why I do. The grafitti,
> and major apartment complexes and homeless encampments, and megamarts,
> traffic, rude people, NOISE POLLUTION, the list goes on. I pull back into
> my driveway, often greeted by several blacktail deer, or a covey of quail
> and my dog wagging her welcome greeting is a nice reminder, too. Don't
> anticipate changing anytime soon.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Nov 3, 2017 9:20 AM, "D C _Mac_ Macdonald" wrote:
>
>> We had a neighbor woman across the street who would regularly drive
>> through the neighborhood looking for stuff that offended her. I referred
>> to her as wicked witch Helen. She said she was going to run for city
>> council to expand her reach. Thankfully, she moved to a snobby
>> neighborhood 20 miles diagonally to the northwest side of Oklahoma City
>> about six or eight months ago. I am positive the folks who had to work
>> under her supervision at Tinker Air Force Base are singing the country
> song
>> "Thank God and Greyhound She's Gone!"
>>
>>
>> I'm pretty sure she's the one who turned me in for my GMC in the
>> driveway. I checked with code enforcement and the requirement was that
> the
>> space between the street gutter and the "obstruction" had to be at least
> 11
>> feet, 6 inches. I was able to get my GMC close enough to the garage to
> get
>> to 11 feet, 7 inches spacing!
>>
>>
>> Things at Rancho Cambodia have certainly changed since wife and I lived
>> there (10300 South White Rock Road) from May '62 to Feb '63. This was a
>> brand new development of duplexes just outside the main gate of Mather
> AFB
>> where I was a student.
>>
>>
>> D C "Mac" Macdonald
>> Amateur Radio K2GKK
>> Since 30 November '53
>> USAF and FAA, Retired
>> Member GMCMI & Classics
>> Oklahoma City, OK
>> "The Money Pit"
>> TZE166V101966
>> '76 ex-Palm Beach
>> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of John
>> Phillips
>> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 04:11
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Generator
>>
>> Jim,
>> The specs are a lot looser for the older engines. The newer engines have
> to
>> be pretty clean to pass.
>> Rich,
>> When I moved into Sacramento County I felt like there were a lot of rules
>> that I thought were absurd coming from Idaho. Rancho Cordova became a
> city
>> and most of the board of supervisors live in HOAs some of them gated.
> They
>> have changed zoning and done about all they could to make the rest of the
>> city more like an HOA. This spring the limited the concrete in our front
>> yards to 40% and imposed a 5-foot setback from side property line. I live
>> on a corner lot with a very little front yard. The last day before the
>> zoning package went into effect I poured a 5-foot wide concrete strip
> next
>> to my property line. I had set up to have a company come in and replace
> my
>> driveway with a wider driveway over to my property line. 2-days before I
>> poured he told me they could not make the date.
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325705 is a reply to message #63101] Fri, 03 November 2017 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No place is safe. 60 miles to the city, and the sumbiches are building cracker boxes out here. At least well to do crackerboxes, I see 30 - 40 k pickups, boats, 4 wheelers, all them toys.

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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325713 is a reply to message #325705] Fri, 03 November 2017 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Politicians will always find a way to pick your pocket. Distance makes little or no difference. We had an expiring 1% sales tax add-on that had a time limit Set to expire last year. Instead of allowing the voters to vote on extending or making it permanent(will of the voters), the County Board, in the stealth of the night, without publishing their intent, voted as executives to make the 1% permanent.
They did this after losing 2 out of 3 mill rates in the last election. They will attempt this one again, I personally hope with the same results.
Honesty is what I expect. Deceit is what we get.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325715 is a reply to message #325713] Fri, 03 November 2017 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is some infectious disease that is found in government buildings.
Doesn't make much difference whether it is City, County, State, Federal,
Parrish, or whatever. It infects all who linger there longer than it takes
to render truthful testimony on any subject. It turns decent, honest,
trustworthy folks into politicians. There are lies, damned lies, and
political statements. Particularly when it comes to sex and money. Cure?
Beats me!
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Nov 3, 2017 2:15 PM, "Thomas Phipps" wrote:

> Politicians will always find a way to pick your pocket. Distance makes
> little or no difference. We had an expiring 1% sales tax add-on that had a
> time
> limit Set to expire last year. Instead of allowing the voters to vote on
> extending or making it permanent(will of the voters), the County Board, in
> the stealth of the night, without publishing their intent, voted as
> executives to make the 1% permanent.
> They did this after losing 2 out of 3 mill rates in the last election.
> They will attempt this one again, I personally hope with the same results.
> Honesty is what I expect. Deceit is what we get.
> Tom, MS II
> --
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> KA4CSG
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325718 is a reply to message #325715] Fri, 03 November 2017 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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I keep hearing that, but to be truthful, I haven't found it in abundance.

What I have found is corruption (very rare, but notable and occasionally
quite threatening), hostility to employees (certainly not the sole domain
of government), pompous officiousness (also not unique to the public sector
but particularly visible there), and general incompetence. The difference
is that those in the private sector who are dominated by those attributes
are often marked by a resume with a different employer every couple of
years, while they can become entrenched in government. But I have also
found dedication in the public sector only rarely seen in the private
sector, and commitment to expertise and competence rather than just making
the quarterly reports look good.

During my first public-sector career, I personally handled about 12,000
citizen complaints. (As a consultant, I received precisely zero citizen
complaints.) Lots of those were completely legitimate and I did what I
could to be responsive to those. During my time, we reduced response time
to such requests (which required field observation and often a formal
study) from months to one week, tops. But quite commonly even the
legitimate complaints were delivered with the expectation that I was an
unresponsive idiot, with a strong dose of "Do you know who I am?" It takes
a pretty committed professional to maintain a desire to be helpful under
that sort of onslaught. I find that, quite often, people undermine their
own requests by being demanding and exercising their own pomposity.
Government workers really aren't any worse that anyone else, and I for one
respond poorly to ultimatums.

I spent 2 years in research, 13 years in state and local government, 17
years as a consultant--all but three with one company and maintaining high
customer billings even when I was a corporate officer--, and now pushing 8
years as a fed. The biggest problem I see at the federal level is
persuading the best and brightest to work there in the first place, or
keeping them there if we do manage to entice them. It's not an easy
job--those coming in from engineering school spend two years moving all
over, just like in the military but without the same level of support, and
then have to take whatever assignments come along. They don't get to choose
their location first, as those entering the private sector do, unless, like
me, they come in much later in their careers when they have some bargaining
power. My job now is mostly training and advice-giving, and I spend my time
with those in state and local government helping them get better results. I
don't see myself running out of work for the foreseeable future. :)

If you want to find the infection, you'll find it in those who call up
their local council members or county supervisors and lobby for rules that
they want their neighbors to follow. They are often in real estate and
development, and thus often have close ties to those politicians, who
therefore listen and respond accordingly. The worst neighborhood nazis I
ever knew were real-estate salespeople who worked that neighborhood or who
wanted to keep their own property values high. There is a reason I live in
the country, but there are plenty of busybodies and do-gooders there, too.

Rick "deceit is part of the human condition" Denney



On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:38 PM, James Hupy wrote:

> There is some infectious disease that is found in government buildings.
> Doesn't make much difference whether it is City, County, State, Federal,
> Parrish, or whatever. It infects all who linger there longer than it takes
> to render truthful testimony on any subject. It turns decent, honest,
> trustworthy folks into politicians. There are lies, damned lies, and
> political statements. Particularly when it comes to sex and money. Cure?
> Beats me!
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Nov 3, 2017 2:15 PM, "Thomas Phipps" wrote:
>
>> Politicians will always find a way to pick your pocket. Distance makes
>> little or no difference. We had an expiring 1% sales tax add-on that had
> a
>> time
>> limit Set to expire last year. Instead of allowing the voters to vote on
>> extending or making it permanent(will of the voters), the County Board,
> in
>> the stealth of the night, without publishing their intent, voted as
>> executives to make the 1% permanent.
>> They did this after losing 2 out of 3 mill rates in the last election.
>> They will attempt this one again, I personally hope with the same
> results.
>> Honesty is what I expect. Deceit is what we get.
>> Tom, MS II
>> --
>> 1975 GMC Avion
>> KA4CSG
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325719 is a reply to message #325718] Fri, 03 November 2017 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Rick, well spoken, with first hand experience thrown in for good measure. I
also worked a good part of my career in government service. Specifically,
a vocational instructor in an Oregon Prison. I had more than one occasion
to testify, and many face to face contacts with congressional
representatives and State senators during my tenure. As a community
volunteer after my working career, I had many occasions to interact with
city council members, and several mayors. Most of them had a personal stake
in their communities, and were passionate about their visions for the rest
of us. Some good, some terrible. But, land use regulations that
restrict the use of property that we all pay for and pay taxes and fees for
the "privelage" of ownership and occupancy is a really really hot button
item here in the West. Thomas Jefferson said it well. "The government that
governs least, governs best". We should be able to park our GMC'S on our
own property, where it best suits our needs. Don't get me started on
"little houses" (grin)
Jim Hupy

On Nov 3, 2017 3:44 PM, "Richard Denney" wrote:

> I keep hearing that, but to be truthful, I haven't found it in abundance.
>
> What I have found is corruption (very rare, but notable and occasionally
> quite threatening), hostility to employees (certainly not the sole domain
> of government), pompous officiousness (also not unique to the public sector
> but particularly visible there), and general incompetence. The difference
> is that those in the private sector who are dominated by those attributes
> are often marked by a resume with a different employer every couple of
> years, while they can become entrenched in government. But I have also
> found dedication in the public sector only rarely seen in the private
> sector, and commitment to expertise and competence rather than just making
> the quarterly reports look good.
>
> During my first public-sector career, I personally handled about 12,000
> citizen complaints. (As a consultant, I received precisely zero citizen
> complaints.) Lots of those were completely legitimate and I did what I
> could to be responsive to those. During my time, we reduced response time
> to such requests (which required field observation and often a formal
> study) from months to one week, tops. But quite commonly even the
> legitimate complaints were delivered with the expectation that I was an
> unresponsive idiot, with a strong dose of "Do you know who I am?" It takes
> a pretty committed professional to maintain a desire to be helpful under
> that sort of onslaught. I find that, quite often, people undermine their
> own requests by being demanding and exercising their own pomposity.
> Government workers really aren't any worse that anyone else, and I for one
> respond poorly to ultimatums.
>
> I spent 2 years in research, 13 years in state and local government, 17
> years as a consultant--all but three with one company and maintaining high
> customer billings even when I was a corporate officer--, and now pushing 8
> years as a fed. The biggest problem I see at the federal level is
> persuading the best and brightest to work there in the first place, or
> keeping them there if we do manage to entice them. It's not an easy
> job--those coming in from engineering school spend two years moving all
> over, just like in the military but without the same level of support, and
> then have to take whatever assignments come along. They don't get to choose
> their location first, as those entering the private sector do, unless, like
> me, they come in much later in their careers when they have some bargaining
> power. My job now is mostly training and advice-giving, and I spend my time
> with those in state and local government helping them get better results. I
> don't see myself running out of work for the foreseeable future. :)
>
> If you want to find the infection, you'll find it in those who call up
> their local council members or county supervisors and lobby for rules that
> they want their neighbors to follow. They are often in real estate and
> development, and thus often have close ties to those politicians, who
> therefore listen and respond accordingly. The worst neighborhood nazis I
> ever knew were real-estate salespeople who worked that neighborhood or who
> wanted to keep their own property values high. There is a reason I live in
> the country, but there are plenty of busybodies and do-gooders there, too.
>
> Rick "deceit is part of the human condition" Denney
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:38 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>
>> There is some infectious disease that is found in government buildings.
>> Doesn't make much difference whether it is City, County, State, Federal,
>> Parrish, or whatever. It infects all who linger there longer than it
> takes
>> to render truthful testimony on any subject. It turns decent, honest,
>> trustworthy folks into politicians. There are lies, damned lies, and
>> political statements. Particularly when it comes to sex and money. Cure?
>> Beats me!
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2017 2:15 PM, "Thomas Phipps" wrote:
>>
>>> Politicians will always find a way to pick your pocket. Distance makes
>>> little or no difference. We had an expiring 1% sales tax add-on that
> had
>> a
>>> time
>>> limit Set to expire last year. Instead of allowing the voters to vote
> on
>>> extending or making it permanent(will of the voters), the County Board,
>> in
>>> the stealth of the night, without publishing their intent, voted as
>>> executives to make the 1% permanent.
>>> They did this after losing 2 out of 3 mill rates in the last election.
>>> They will attempt this one again, I personally hope with the same
>> results.
>>> Honesty is what I expect. Deceit is what we get.
>>> Tom, MS II
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325720 is a reply to message #325719] Fri, 03 November 2017 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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Of course, I agree. We think of the federal government as being the most
intrusive, but the real intrusiveness is happening at the local level, with
the states and feds well behind (though in some cases trying to catch up).

I recently did the financial planning and monitoring for building a new
church, and a significant percentage of our costs bought things we didn't
need, but that the busybodies at the county required. But those
requirements were the result of other busybodies demanding it to keep their
neighborhoods sufficiently prestigious, or preventing the sorts of
commercial development they despise because they have other people do their
shopping for them, and our humble little church (maximum seating: 144) was
the unplanned victim. Grrr.

Rick "who watched us have to spend $360/square foot, not including
architectural or site fees, for a simple, rectangular but well-built church
building, and then it took a full year to get our $180K in bonds refunded"
Denney

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 7:05 PM, James Hupy wrote:

> ...But, land use regulations that
> restrict the use of property that we all pay for and pay taxes and fees for
> the "privelege" of ownership and occupancy is a really really hot button
> item here in the West. Thomas Jefferson said it well. "The government that
> governs least, governs best". We should be able to park our GMC'S on our
> own property, where it best suits our needs. Don't get me started on
> "little houses" (grin)
> Jim Hupy
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325794 is a reply to message #325718] Mon, 06 November 2017 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

My home in Australia is located in the Eastern Suburb of Sydney called Paddington. If you would like to see what it looks like click
on the link below:

http://tinyurl.com/y77fphgg

It's the tan colored house behind the black Audi. It is 5 yards wide and was built in 1876. I bought it in 1981 when I was based
there as a field service rep for Hamilton Standard. I renovated, restored, and extended it over the seven years I was based there.
It is in a Heritage area and to make any changes to it you must submit plans to Sydney City Council (SCC) for review. As part of the
review process the plans are put on display on the SCC website and people are allowed to submit objections to what you want to do.
Letters are sent to your neighbors to solicit their comments. Any objections they raise are reviewed by SCC. I recently submitted
plans to finish out the attic and cover the car space behind the house. The house faces east - west (back yard faces the Pacific
Ocean (about 3 miles to Bondi Beach). The neighbor to the south (64 Regent St.) objected because my carport would reduce the amount
of sun in her backyard. Fortunately the amount of area my carport shaded wasn't enough to reject the plans and they were approved
with the caveat that I install one dormer on the Regent Street side that was in keeping with the period architecture. That was fine
with me.

Here's a link to show where it's located in Sydney:

http://tinyurl.com/ycmmggxf

As you can see I live in a densely populated inner city suburb which has it's advantages as well, for example I can walk up to
Oxford Street and do my grocery shopping (although I usually drive to Bondi Junction and shop at Coles or Woolworths). On Oxford
Street I can catch a bus to head to the CBD or Central Station where I can catch a train to take me to my workshop. As a Pensioner
(someone over 60) I have a Gold Senior/Pensioner Opal card which allows me to tap into public transport services across Sydney, the
Blue Mountains, Central Coast, Hunter, Illawarra and Southern Highlands capped at $2.50 per day.

Obviously I can't have a workshop so Helen bought me this place:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/dad-27s-1968-t-3-squareback-vw/p31526-t-3-front-end.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/dad-27s-1968-t-3-squareback-vw/p31527-t-3-front-passenger-side.html

She did that because she wanted to live a couple blocks from the Sydney Cricket Grounds and Sydney Football Stadium! Plus she said
it would get me out of the house and her hair!

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808



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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325797 is a reply to message #63101] Mon, 06 November 2017 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Vince,
You can relocate the battery to the front and it will give you space to install a new Onan unit that is quiet for around 4,ooo delivered from us.


Jim Kanomata
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325815 is a reply to message #325797] Tue, 07 November 2017 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Stragand is currently offline  Dave Stragand   United States
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Jim,

What all is involved with moving the generator's battery to the front?
What gauge cable is needed? And do you tie it to the house battery, or
a separate battery?

Thanks,

-Dave

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Vince,
You can relocate the battery to the front and it will give you space to
install a new Onan unit that is quiet for around 4,ooo delivered from
us.
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http://www.appliedgmc.com
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #325828 is a reply to message #63101] Tue, 07 November 2017 16:18 Go to previous message
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Get the dimensions from JimK. I betcha the new set will fit without moving the battery in a 26' coach

--johnny


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