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Part # for 100amp Alternator [message #370672] Mon, 10 October 2022 18:04 Go to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Just went to "Search" and got a blank page. Looked at GMC Motorhome information, and GMCMI parts exchange. neither had working part # for the 100 amp alternator. Anybody have a part # for the 100 amp alternator?
Thanks


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.

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Re: Part # for 100amp Alternator [message #370686 is a reply to message #370672] Wed, 12 October 2022 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Russell K. is currently offline  Russell K.   United States
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Hi Larry,

Both the
The Duralast Alternator DL7157 (from Autozone)
and the Remy 20136
are 100 amp 27si alternators.
I've used both.

Russell



1978 Eleganza II, Dunedin, Florida
Re: Part # for 100amp Alternator [message #370693 is a reply to message #370686] Wed, 12 October 2022 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Thanks Russ.
I'll be looking at these. Also considering taking the alternator to a local rebuilder. This fella has been doing starters, alternators, generators, motors....etc. for 3yrs. I've had starters done by him with good results. Thanks for the information.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: Part # for 100amp Alternator [message #370695 is a reply to message #370672] Thu, 13 October 2022 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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If it's original, I'd rebuild or have it rebuilt.

--johnny


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Re: Part # for 100amp Alternator [message #370696 is a reply to message #370695] Thu, 13 October 2022 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Were I in your place, I would not work too hard for a 100amp alternator. It might not get you a lot. If you can do it with little cost/effort, it might be worth it.

For the later 26' with the house bank in the rear, the line loss at high current will do a job on trying to recover the house bank underway. You have to understand that the life of your "12 VOLT" battery is really between 11.9 and 12.6 volts. You really can't use more than about 14.4 at the battery no matter what. To get that 14.4 all the way to the back from all the way in the front, you will have to start out with a whole lot more than the roughly 15.0 that the alternators are supposed to deliver. A run-away 27SI will make 18Volts and it only takes about 16.2 to burn out every incandescent light bulb you own. (Unregulated LEDs left long before that.)

Even if you were upsize the main run to the rear that was installed as #0SAE wire (90% of the AWG), the other side is through the frame and such and you will still take about 0.5VDC beating getting to the bank (there goes your big charge).

I discovered all this when I was trying to find out why I could not recover the house bank from the converter even with my new Progressive Dynamics 9145 with Wizard. Nothing I tried could get the rate of charge over about 30amps at the best. This was frustrating because in the process of trying to diagnose my alternator belt problems, I measured (really measure like with a Bell Current probe and a Fluke 87) a charge current of 98+..... (If you did not know, the power limit of a V-belt our size is about 100 amps at 15V - that is about 2hp.)

When working about the converter problem, I actually tried a #0 welding cable from the converter to the bank only to find that I still did not get to the charge rate I wanted because the voltage loss on the negative side rose up to bite my ass.....

As you may have surmised, this was a very frustrating time because we regularly (pre-plague) would dry camp for 4 days at the Dulcimer Festival in Evart. With electric refrigeration in July, a full house bank was good for about 36 hours. When I would fire the Onan for 4 hours and only get the bank to half (by density), I set out to discover why this was. It was the distance and the lack of copper as noted above. So, I added a Pd9260 and the passengers right ankle. Now 4 hours gets us to 90%.

Matt


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Re: Part # for 100amp Alternator [message #370697 is a reply to message #370672] Thu, 13 October 2022 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Larry,

I've had 3 GMC alternators rebuilt and converted from 80 amp to 100 amp alternators by a local company near me, P&H Auto Electric. They have been doing rebuilds for my company vehicles for many years and I have had great results. I prefer the rebuilds because they have been checked thru and also, I haven't had great luck with new anything anymore. Too much new stuff comes out of the box not working as it should.

Good luck,
Tom K.


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Re: Part # for 100amp Alternator [message #370699 is a reply to message #370697] Fri, 14 October 2022 14:48 Go to previous message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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I just had two alternators rebuilt, an 80 amp and a 100 amp. The rebuilder provided test data which showed that while the 100 amp (of course) delivered a higher peak output, the 80 amp delivered more amps at a lower RPM. I'm not really sure there is an advantage to running a 100 amp alternator over an 80 amp.

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