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Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370244] Mon, 01 August 2022 16:13 Go to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Gentlemen,

I plugged my WUD USB connection into my new laptop and my old lap top. Neither recognized the vehicle computer. The WUD screen appears in both laptops, it just is not communicating with the vehicle computer.

I am checking to find if I need a driver for the program or perhaps I have a less then adequate connection somewhere?

I was looking for any computer connection/setup instructions. I can not find any information other than the installation instructions.

Take care,
Tom K.


Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition
Re: Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370245 is a reply to message #370244] Mon, 01 August 2022 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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Usb or serial out of the ebl??

BobR with dynamic is very helpful.

The cord needed can be kinda specific. I ordered one off amazon and it did not work. Bob sent me one and that worked perfectly.


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370246 is a reply to message #370244] Mon, 01 August 2022 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Jon,

It is USB and I too bought it off Amazon. I may have to find another cord.

Thanks,
Tom K.


Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition

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Re: Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370247 is a reply to message #370246] Mon, 01 August 2022 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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Did your EBL come with a serial cable connection or the USB? If USB you shouldn't have to buy a special cable unless you need USB C. Is the Amazon cable you bought a USB to USB C cable? Did you select a port in WUD? In Windows, go to Control Panel, then Device Manager. Scroll down until you see Ports (COM & LPT). Click the down arrow and you will see a list of ports (if any are used - if you have another USB device that works plug that in and out and you should see a port appear and disappear). Then plug in the USB and see if appears. Note the Port Number, then go to the WUD, select 'File', then COMM Port and highlight that COM Port number and select it. With ignition on, you should see coolant temp, MAP, Voltage and other info. There will be a spinning gear on the right top of the screen.

Or call BobR at Dynamic EFI.


Bill Van Vlack '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.

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Re: Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370249 is a reply to message #370244] Mon, 01 August 2022 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Bill,

Thank you. I will give it a whirl 1st thing in the morning.

Have a good evening,
Tom K.


Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition
Re: Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370260 is a reply to message #370244] Wed, 03 August 2022 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Jon and Bill,

I used my older laptop and the WUD works great. I found that I have to get a com port driver as the new windows 10/11 in the new computer no longer has com ports readily available. I had to reactivate legacy soft ware which is stored in windows 10. now I am trying to get it to run and sense the com port.

The good news is that all WUD/EBL connections are good and the WUD reflects the steam gauge readings with the exception of oil pressure on the digi which may need calibration. I still have a high engine temp issue,

Unfortunately it doesn't appear that the fan clutch was causing the high engine temp issue. I will try a thermostat then I'm not sure of the next step.

Take care,
Tom K.


Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition
Re: Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370261 is a reply to message #370260] Wed, 03 August 2022 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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Google just told me that" For Windows 11 you can check what device is using what COM port from the Device Manager. It will be listed under the hidden devices. From the Device Manager, select View - Show Hidden Devices. Now when you expand the (PORTS) COM ports section you will see all of the COM ports listed there."

Maybe that will work.


Bill Van Vlack '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
Re: Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370262 is a reply to message #370244] Wed, 03 August 2022 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Bill,

I followed the instructions as you posted and ended with:

"windows cannot determine the settings for this device. Consult the documentation that came with this device and use the resource tab to set the configuration. (Code 34)"

Resource settings allows for changes in I/O Range and IRQ. All this is Greek to me. But I am getting closer (I Hope).

Thanks for your help.

Take care,
Tom K.


Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition
Re: Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370264 is a reply to message #370262] Wed, 03 August 2022 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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Looking at the Amazon ad, it comes with W10 and claims it can be upgraded to W11 with some hacks. Did you install W11? I see it has a USB C charging port and a USB A port. I'd stick to the USB A port; you'll need the C port for charging anyway. Do you have a USB thumb drive you can plug into the USB A port to see if it finds it?

At what point did you get that message? When you expanded the Ports item in Device Manager, or before?

What is a 'steam gauge'? Neither the GM ECM nor EBL have a native oil pressure input. You might be able to add one to an EBL analog port, but you'd have to be sure the sensor provides 0-5 volts.



Bill Van Vlack '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
Re: Initial W.U.D. Connection [message #370265 is a reply to message #370244] Wed, 03 August 2022 20:00 Go to previous message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Bill,

Sorry, the steam gauge is the analog guage. In aviation, for some reason, we've called them steam gauges (slang). Now days you have steam gauges or a glass panel. Funny also because the glass panel isn't even glass.

I got the message after I activated the com port in the Device Manager and following the instructions. I can always do a factory reset if necessary, as the computer is a clean slate and will only be used as a monitor in the TRIP display.

I should have said oil pressure reading on the Digi panel.

Yes, I plan to use the USB A. The WUD works well on my older laptop in USB A. I'm sure it will work on the new computer, I am just not sharp enough at this time to figure it out.

Thank you for all your help, I really appreciate it.

Take care,
Tom K.


Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition
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