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[GMCnet] Onan wiring [message #370146] Tue, 19 July 2022 16:20 Go to next message
Hanson Email is currently offline  Hanson Email   United States
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Is anyone out there?

I'm trying to find the colors of the wires to the remote switch and connect
them to the harness coming out of the gennie.

I have red; yellow(maybe white) ; green and blue coming from the remote
panel in the coach into the generator area.



I have red; yellow; white and black coming from the generator.



So my semi obvious wires not matching are my green and blue and my white and
black.



Any guidance here would be very appreciated.

Dean hanson

75 Avion.



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Re: [GMCnet] Onan wiring [message #370147 is a reply to message #370146] Tue, 19 July 2022 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard RV   United States
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Dean, here's Billy M's GMC web page with the various GMC wiring diagrams:
http://www.bdub.net/wirediagrams/

The Avion is listed and has 12v and 120v diagrams. I suspect that the Onan wiring itself will be pretty standard and the remote switch should be on the 12v diagram. Good luck!

Richard


'77 Birchaven TZE...777; '76 Palm Beach under construction; ‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
Re: [GMCnet] Onan wiring [message #370151 is a reply to message #370147] Tue, 19 July 2022 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard RV   United States
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Looks like I spoke too soon...the 2 Avion diagrams shown on bdub's page are just placeholders or damaged scans. The other wiring diagrams on that page show the file sizes and the Avion files don't. Sorry Dean.

Ken Henderson's son sells very large scale wiring diagrams for all models (far as I know). Maybe you can get a PDF wiring diagram from them via email...?

Richard


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan wiring [message #370153 is a reply to message #370146] Wed, 20 July 2022 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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Dean,

On page 51 of the Onan Major Service manual, it shows the interconnection of the remote panel with the generator control panel. This manual is available in PDF from:
http://www.bdub.net/manuals/Onan/Onan6kwNH_Major-Service.pdf

They don't show any wiring colours so you may need to use your Ohm-meter to trace the wires on both ends. On the generator control board, the pin numbers and functions are:
1 - Ground
2 - Stop
3 - Start
4 - N/C
5 - Battery Meter (if equipped)
6 - Running lamp and hour meter

So basically the remote switch grounds the wire for either Stop or Start. Pin 6 outputs 12V when the generator engine is running to power the Running lamp on the switch and the hour-meter. You likely don't have the Battery meter, so that leaves you with only 4 wires needed.

Note that on the Start/Stop switch, the contact selected is opposite to the side the button is pushed. So when Start is pushed, the middle (common ground) and bottom terminals are connected. When the bottom Stop side is pushed, its the top terminal that is grounded. So Stop wire goes to the top terminal, Start to bottom terminal and Ground is the center common terminal. Page 51 shows both a wiring diagram and a pictorial as well.



Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
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[GMCnet] Re: Onan wiring [message #370154 is a reply to message #370146] Wed, 20 July 2022 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bdub is currently offline  bdub   United States
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Ken Henderson tried to send this via the list but, of course, it was denied
by the system because it was too large a file. Here is a link to it that he
placed on the GMC Motorhome Photo Archive many years ago. And here is his
message to you that was denied.

" Dean,
This redrawn version of the Onan wiring diagram has wire colors labelled.
This is the first time I've looked at it in years, but it looks like it
should have the info you need. You should be able to open it with Paint.
Ken H."

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/kh-onan-wiring-170725/p63486-kh-onan-wirin
g-170725.html

Billy

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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 4:21 PM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Onan wiring

Is anyone out there?

I'm trying to find the colors of the wires to the remote switch and connect
them to the harness coming out of the gennie.

I have red; yellow(maybe white) ; green and blue coming from the remote
panel in the coach into the generator area.



I have red; yellow; white and black coming from the generator.



So my semi obvious wires not matching are my green and blue and my white and
black.
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[GMCnet] Re: Onan wiring [message #370155 is a reply to message #370154] Wed, 20 July 2022 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMCWiperMan is currently offline  GMCWiperMan   United States
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Billy,

Thanks for forwarding that to Dean. Saved me the trouble! :-)

Ken H.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 9:10 AM Billy Massey wrote:

> Ken Henderson tried to send this via the list but, of course, it was denied
> by the system because it was too large a file. Here is a link to it that
> he
> placed on the GMC Motorhome Photo Archive many years ago. And here is his
> message to you that was denied.
>
> " Dean,
> This redrawn version of the Onan wiring diagram has wire colors labelled.
> This is the first time I've looked at it in years, but it looks like it
> should have the info you need. You should be able to open it with Paint.
> Ken H."
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/kh-onan-wiring-170725/p63486-kh-onan-wirin
> g-170725.html
>
>
> Billy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hanson Email [mailto:dean@hansonemail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 4:21 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Onan wiring
>
> Is anyone out there?
>
> I'm trying to find the colors of the wires to the remote switch and
> connect
> them to the harness coming out of the gennie.
>
> I have red; yellow(maybe white) ; green and blue coming from the remote
> panel in the coach into the generator area.
>
>
>
> I have red; yellow; white and black coming from the generator.
>
>
>
> So my semi obvious wires not matching are my green and blue and my white
> and
> black.
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan wiring [message #370156 is a reply to message #370146] Wed, 20 July 2022 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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I was looking at Ken's diagram which was just linked above and noticed a discrepancy between the remote control connection terminals from page 51 of the Major Service manual I had noted above.

The Major Service manual shows pin 6 as the connection for the Remote running light and hour meter. Ken's diagram shows it as being pin 9 (which powers the coil and fuel pump). Pin 6 may have 12V while running, but if you have the Prime Switch wired on the remote panel, you must use pin 9, or better yet use the positive (+) terminal at the coil for "Engine Running" 12V connection.


Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
1 ton front end
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My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
Re: [GMCnet] Onan wiring [message #370184 is a reply to message #370146] Sun, 24 July 2022 11:31 Go to previous message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Just get a meter on continuity beep. Get a 20’ test wire and some alligator clip leads. Connect the long wire to one of the loose wires in the gen compartment and around and into the entry door to the Onan panel remote area. Connect the test wire to one meter lead. Use the other meter lead to probe and find the wire. Label and move on to the next per the legend Bruce posted. Label all the ends then when done install onto the numbered Onan flag terminals. If you are getting flakey meter readings, check/clean the Molex connector in back of gen drawer. You CAN use the body as a return path instead of the long test wire but if there are shorts to ground this will throw you off.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

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