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Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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This is FYI info in case anyone runs into the same that I experienced. I've been having serious issues with my FiTech. On our trip to Florida this past winter, the FiTech began experiencing 10.4 AFR's, rarely running on command. No matter what I did to AFR's, it ran way too rich. Sometimes it would run into the 13's, so I drove it home some 1500miles stopping for fuel way more often that I wanted to. Also noticed a flicker in the tach needle, and occasional hand held tach responses of high rpm. Like just a flicker of say 4578rpm or 3659rpm....random high numbers. After spending time with FiTech support and changing out the O2 sensor and Fuel Pressure regulator to no avail, the FiTech finally started Coding a "code 35". This started gradually, only seeing flickers on tach and coding 35. Then constant flickering and coding 35. Code 35 is a "ignition noise" issue. FiTech support said it was electronic noise coming from the Petronix 1181LS that I installed to replace the points. Talked to Petronix and they sent me a filter that was suppose to eliminate the noise. It is a free upgrade. Installed it with no change. Finally I pulled the distributor cap with wires and found rotor center contact to be quite worn, and two spark plug wires that were out of sync (ohms) with the other 6. I replace the wires and rotor. Still a code 35. (ignition noise) The only thing left was the coil. I had purchased the coil as a matching coil to be used with the Petronix 1181LS. It is their 1.5ohm "Flame-Thrower" Petronix coil. I took the coil out and replaced it with an old 12v Delco coil that I've had laying around for many years. Code 35 gone, and runs perfect going to AFR's commanded. This Petronix coil has been going bad over the last 5 months...a little at a time creating noise that was F'ing with the CPU programming. Hope this helps someone.

I posted this to the FiTech forum on Facebook also.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.

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Re: FiTech issues [message #370115 is a reply to message #370112] Sun, 10 July 2022 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Cars (trucks, RVs) are incredibly electrically noisy. And hard to shut up. Chokes, capacitors, and ferrites liberally applied are usually sufficient.

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Re: FiTech issues [message #370116 is a reply to message #370112] Sun, 10 July 2022 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OEM proves better than “bigger better go faster” aftermarket. Once again.

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Re: FiTech issues [message #370117 is a reply to message #370112] Sun, 10 July 2022 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Basically you want a coil with the LOWEST voltage rise that exceeds the worst case conditions and will still fire the plug. More capability beyond that is just more primary Amps draw, more mag field EMF and more noise.

John Lebetski
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Re: FiTech issues [message #370118 is a reply to message #370117] Sun, 10 July 2022 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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JohnL455 wrote on Sun, 10 July 2022 17:23
Basically you want a coil with the LOWEST voltage rise that exceeds the worst case conditions and will still fire the plug. More capability beyond that is just more primary Amps draw, more mag field EMF and more noise.
Yup, it is strange that I'd been seeing "flicker" on the tack for the last year or so. Didn't really act up and get worse until we were 1500 mi from home. Just glad I got it home where I had time and tools to trouble shoot it.


Larry Smile
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Menomonie, WI.
[GMCnet] Re: FiTech issues [message #370119 is a reply to message #370112] Sun, 10 July 2022 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnL455 wrote on Sun, 10 July 2022 17:23
> Basically you want a coil with the LOWEST voltage rise that exceeds the worst case conditions and will still fire the plug. More capability beyond
> that is just more primary Amps draw, more mag field EMF and more noise.

Yup, it is strange that I'd been seeing "flicker" on the tack for the last year or so. Didn't really act up and get worse until we were 1500 mi from
home. Just glad I got it home where I had time and tools to trouble shoot it.

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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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Re: FiTech issues [message #370126 is a reply to message #370112] Mon, 11 July 2022 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,
I have the Pertronix 1181LS and purchased the Flame-Thrower coil at your suggestion for an otherwise stock 1973 engine. After having Wally Anderson help me address the timing issue that you uncovered at the Chippewa Falls convention my coach has been running like a top. Do you think there is any reason to revisit my coil in the absence of any obvious problem?


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Re: FiTech issues [message #370127 is a reply to message #370126] Tue, 12 July 2022 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dsmithy wrote on Mon, 11 July 2022 22:17
Larry,
I have the Pertronix 1181LS and purchased the Flame-Thrower coil at your suggestion for an otherwise stock 1973 engine. After having Wally Anderson help me address the timing issue that you uncovered at the Chippewa Falls convention my coach has been running like a top. Do you think there is any reason to revisit my coil in the absence of any obvious problem?

Hi Doug, So good to hear from you. It is possible that my experience with the Petronix coil is an anomaly. I seem to attract those kinds of things. You could carry another 12v Delco coil and the tools to change it out with you just in case. But since you are not running an EFI which can be sensitive to excessive ignition noise, IMO, you are less likely to experience the issues that I did.

OH, and a shout out to Wally for giving you a hand with your timing issue. Glad to hear it is running so well and you two are enjoying the many benefits of our GMC's. Hope to see you at a future rally.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: FiTech issues [message #370128 is a reply to message #370127] Tue, 12 July 2022 15:41 Go to previous message
dsmithy is currently offline  dsmithy   United States
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Thanks Larry. Our best too you and Lucy.
Safe Journeys!


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