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Computer Requirements for the Howell Fuel Injection System EBL [message #370105]

Sat, 09 July 2022 22:16

Tom Katzenberger

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I am currently looking for a small tablet to be dedicated to the software on the Howell fuel injection EBL. I know I need a USB port and Apple operating systems will not work, but will the software run on an Android operating system?

Are there any preferred tablets that are being used?

Thanks and take care all,
Tom K.

Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition

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Re: Computer Requirements for the Howell Fuel Injection System EBL [message #370110 is a reply to message #370105]

Sun, 10 July 2022 06:48

RF_Burns

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The basic Howell EFI system does not require a computer. It has been pre-programmed for the 403 or 455 engine and learns the fuel corrections as you drive it.

With the added EBL system to the Howell, then a computer is used to easily change parameters and features if desired. Once any changes have been made, you can disconnect the computer and it runs on its own.

The EBL's What's Up Display (WUD) is a Windows only program, so must be used on a Windows machine. I have a small Windows 10 laptop computer with a detachable touch-screen which makes it more like a tablet. It's an RCA Cambio computer I purchased at WalMart a couple of years ago for about $125Cdn. Its not a powerful fast computer, but it gets the job done. I use it only for monitoring when driving down the road. For making any changes, I use my regular Lenovo Thinkpad laptop. Its just easier to use with my big fingers and old eyes.

Here is the RCA Cambio, but it doesn't look like its available anymore:
https://www.amazon.com/RCA-Windows-Touchscreen-Computer-Bluetooth/dp/B0188NA4DS

I've used some small netbook style computers in the past with no issues. The WUD program is small and very simple so it seems to run fine on anything I've used. I've never tried it on Windows 11 though.

I've heard of some guys that used an Android tablet as a remote screen with a Windows computer doing the actual work.

Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that

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[GMCnet] Re: Computer Requirements for the Howell Fuel Injection System EBL [message #370111 is a reply to message #370105]

Sun, 10 July 2022 06:48

RF_Burns

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Location: S. Ontario, Canada

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The basic Howell EFI system does not require a computer. It has been pre-programmed for the 403 or 455 engine and learns the fuel corrections as you
drive it.

With the added EBL system to the Howell, then a computer is used to easily change parameters and features if desired. Once any changes have been
made, you can disconnect the computer and it runs on its own.

The EBL's What's Up Display (WUD) is a Windows only program, so must be used on a Windows machine. I have a small Windows 10 laptop computer with a
detachable touch-screen which makes it more like a table. It's an RCA Cambio computer I purchased at WalMart a couple of years ago for about $125Cdn.
Its not a powerful fast computer, but it gets the job done. I use it only for monitoring when driving down the road. For making any changes, I use
my regular Lenovo Thinkpad laptop. Its just easier to use with my big fingers and old eyes.

Here is the RCA Cambio, but it doesn't look like its available anymore:
https://www.amazon.com/RCA-Windows-Touchscreen-Computer-Bluetooth/dp/B0188NA4DS

I've used some small netbook style computers in the past with no issues. The WUD program is small and very simple so it seems to run fine on anything
I've used. I've never tried it on Windows 11 though.

I've heard of some guys that used an Android tablet as a remote screen with a Windows computer doing the actual work.

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Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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Re: Computer Requirements for the Howell Fuel Injection System EBL [message #370121 is a reply to message #370105]

Mon, 11 July 2022 07:59

Tom Katzenberger

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Thank you guys,

I will look for a small PC, windows based.

Take care,
Tom K.

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Re: Computer Requirements for the Howell Fuel Injection System EBL [message #370149 is a reply to message #370121]

Tue, 19 July 2022 17:09

Richard RV

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Tom, I remember at a GMCMI EFI seminar that George Beckman said he'd rigged up an iPad with his EBL. I don't have any details but Randy Van Winkle would know. I'm also interested, so if you find out anything please post it.

Richard

'77 Birchaven TZE...777; '76 Palm Beach under construction; ‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn

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Re: Computer Requirements for the Howell Fuel Injection System EBL [message #370152 is a reply to message #370105]

Tue, 19 July 2022 18:27

Tom Katzenberger

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Rich,

I found a PC on Amazon prime for about a $150. I was totally impressed with its performance thus far. I bought the mount that Randy and the others suggested. I will see how everything works out on my next trip, but it appears everything will work out well. The computer is a Tibuta Master Pad W100,8.9" mini lap top.

Thanks to everyone for all the input and help.

Take care,
Tom

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Re: Computer Requirements for the Howell Fuel Injection System EBL [message #370157 is a reply to message #370152]

Wed, 20 July 2022 11:12

rjw

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I use a netbook (small inexpensive laptops that were sold from 2007 to around 2013) with a 10.1" screen, full keyboard, Bluetooth, 160 GB hard disk drive, 2 GB RAM, 3 USB ports and it is running Windows XP (no problems since it is no longer connected to the internet). It fits nicely on the small single leg table between motorhome seats and the EBL software screens fill up the display. Plus it does not require a special stand. I power it off a small inverter when underway. It does the job for me.

Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com

Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.

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Re: Computer Requirements for the Howell Fuel Injection System EBL [message #370160 is a reply to message #370157]

Wed, 20 July 2022 15:28

Bill Van Vlack

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I bought a used Dell Latitude 5825 detatchable keyboard on Ebay. 12.3",Intel Core i5-7300U, 2.7GHz,8GB Ram, 128GB SSD, W11 Pro. $249. Works great.

Bill Van Vlack '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.

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