| Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369270] |
Sat, 26 March 2022 21:53  |
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wally
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Any information on windshield replacements at the Spring GMCMI rally?
Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
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| Re: Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369273 is a reply to message #369270] |
Sun, 27 March 2022 03:10  |
Ken Burton
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We are not doing them at the spring rally. To far to travel. We will do them at the fall tally in Tennessee.
They will still do single coaches for any one traveling through NW Indiana and the Chicago area between now and the fall rally .
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369275 is a reply to message #369270] |
Sun, 27 March 2022 08:53 |
Scott Nutter
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Ken, I noticed a previous thread about ceramic tint on the windshield. Is this something your installers could do on a new windshield while it’s out?
Scott.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369282 is a reply to message #369275] |
Sun, 27 March 2022 22:52 |
Ken Burton
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This was something that I almost pulled off a couple of years ago as an option at the Mansfield Rally. I had orders for 23 sets of new ceramic tinted windshields to be installed besides the normal ones of about 2 dozen more.
In the end we had to drop the tint project because of legalities and warranty issues. It turns out our GMCs do NOT have federal restrictions against tinted windshields. The problem is 45 states and at least 3 provinces do have restrictions.
Ohio, which is where these would have been installed, is one of the states where front tinting is legal. Most of the coaches at the rally are registered and titled outside of Ohio and would be illegal in their home state. Also any warranty work, if it was ever needed, had to be done by a dealer in one of states where it is legal.
I can tell you this, It is very, very difficult to tint them inside once they are installed.
Some tinters will do this for you even though it is illegal in their state. Usually those tint shops will not give you warranty or receipt paper work, I am still thinking about doing mine some day. I will pull or replace the windshield to do it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369283 is a reply to message #369275] |
Mon, 28 March 2022 00:46 |
Ken Burton
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Scott Nutter wrote on Sun, 27 March 2022 08:53Ken, I noticed a previous thread about ceramic tint on the windshield. Is this something your installers could do on a new windshield while it’s out?
Scott.
I really did not answer your question in my previous posting. This company does not do any tinting. Neither does the company that makes the windshields. The installers have installed several tinted windshields that others have tinted. It is a little difficult because the windshields have to go from the manufacturer warehouse, to the tinter, and then moved again to the installer at the coach location.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369292 is a reply to message #369270] |
Mon, 28 March 2022 10:20 |
lqqkatjon
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from what I have been told from some situations. Windshield installers DO NOT like, or will not install filmed glass. This puts them at a liability with damaging the window film when installing the glass.
Ken has some unbelievable installers doing these "windshield" clinics. What they do for the GMCMI rally in installing these windshields is just amazing and hard to believe they are willing to do these. it tells you also what a unique and amazing person Ken is.
I will say it again, that the person who did my ceramic film on my windshields will not do another. but he did a great job and I think it really helps the heat.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| [GMCnet] Re: Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369293 is a reply to message #369292] |
Mon, 28 March 2022 10:55 |
stu@97381.com, Emery
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Some do not realize that windshields are made from two layers of glass separated by a plastic film (laminated glass). The film keeps the glass from shattering onto occupants but also filters out ultraviolet light. You could drive all day into the western sun and will not get sunburned on your face. It also protects your eyes from the UV. But if you have untinted glass on the side window, which is not laminated glass, your arm can get sunburned in an hour or so.
The reason so many states forbid tinted glass on the windshield is because it cuts down on your vision.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Mar 28, 2022, at 9:21 AM, Jon Roche wrote:
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> from what I have been told from some situations. Windshield installers DO NOT like, or will not install filmed glass. This puts them at a
> liability with damaging the window film when installing the glass.
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> Ken has some unbelievable installers doing these "windshield" clinics. What they do for the GMCMI rally in installing these windshields is just
> amazing and hard to believe they are willing to do these. it tells you also what a unique and amazing person Ken is.
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> I will say it again, that the person who did my ceramic film on my windshields will not do another. but he did a great job and I think it really
> helps the heat.
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>
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Re: Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369295 is a reply to message #369293] |
Mon, 28 March 2022 11:41 |
lqqkatjon
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I do not, or have no idea on the properties of our stock gmc windshield. But ceramic film is a game changer. I try to use the term “film” rather then “tint”. Because there is no “tint”. The film on my windshield is clear. So it gets grey area with laws.
The ceramic does block 99.9% if UV. But that is not the big deal. It is the 66% of total solar energy and up to 95% of infrared heat rejection that is the game changer.
It might not be 100% clear, but you cannot tell at
All there is any film on there, until I park next
To another gmc. And even then you have to look very close at the difference. It is almost transparent.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369306 is a reply to message #369292] |
Tue, 29 March 2022 23:13 |
Ken Burton
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When I went looking for extra tints for the front of the GMC, I found the most states have a maximum of 70% VLT (Visible Light Transfer) requirement. Some allow darker above the VLT line inscribed in some windshields.
Most GMCers are trying block heat and not visible light. These ceramics tints can be found that only add 3 to 10% to the existing VLT from the factory. After one meeting we had with one tinter, he brought out 2 types of VLT meters and showed us the factory VLT on several random vehicles in the parking lot. Most of them were in the 80% range from the factory. We did not do a GMC Coach Glass windshield because we did hot have one at the site. Ceramic tint that does not add more than 10% or less ought to work. We were going to use the 3% stuff.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| [GMCnet] Re: Windshields at spring GMCMI rally [message #369314 is a reply to message #369306] |
Wed, 30 March 2022 09:46 |
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Good info Ken. Thanks.
Sully
Bellevue wa.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 9:13 PM Ken Burton wrote:
> When I went looking for extra tints for the front of the GMC, I found the
> most states have a maximum of 70% VLT (Visible Light Transfer) requirement.
> Some all darker above the VLT line inscribed in some windshields.
>
> Most GMCers are trying block heat and not visible light. These ceramics
> tints canm be found that only add 3 to 10% to the existing VLT from the
> factory. After one a meeting we had with one tinter, he brought out 2
> types of VLT meters and showed us the factory VLT on several random
> vehicles in
> the parking lot. Most of them were in the 80% range from the factory. We
> did not do a GMC Coach Glass windshield because we did hot have one at the
> site. Ceramic tint that does not add more than 10% or less ought to work.
> We were going to use the 3% stuff.
>
>
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> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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