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[GMCnet] Bad Propane? [message #368603] Sat, 29 January 2022 12:46 Go to next message
fbhtxak is currently offline  fbhtxak   United States
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Larry,

As you may know, a part of my business life was in natural gas processing. If an upset occurs in the natural gas processing plants and is not caught/corrected by the instruments/controls, operating staff, etc., off-spec products (i.e., ethane, propane, butane, isobutane, etc.) will result. In the case of propane (C3), it could have more butane (and heaviers) than spec, resulting in a BTU content that is too high (i.e., too rich) for propane-fired equipment. It may ignite but will flame-out because the fired equipment is designed for spec propane and its associated air/fuel ratio.

This problem is a very rare occurrence among major company producers - but there are "fly-by-night" producers who are "less diligent" in their product quality control. Retailers like AmeriGas Propane, Ferrellgas Partners LP, Suburban Propane Partners LP, etc. generally buy from major company producers and are far less likely to get a load of off-spec product.

Hope this helps...

Fred

Fred Hudspeth
1978 Royale (TZE 368V101335) - Tyler, TX
1982 Airstream Excella (motorhome) - Cooper Landing, Alaska



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Two years ago I started having troubles with my propane hot water heater. It would fire up, run for 5 minutes or so and the fire would go out.
Sometimes restart, sometimes not. I posted the question here and got lots of advise, but due to other more important stuff never go to do anything about it. I finally ran the tank almost dry this past summer dealing with constant no fire issues. Filled with 12gal this last October. Had troubles relighting frig, and hot water heater, but when I finally got them lit, I have not had a single problem with them since. Frig works and hot water heater lites and heats without incident. Has anyone heard of getting a bad load of propane? It was just that one fill that gave me problems.

We hear often of GMC'rs getting a bad load of gas (I did once) and having to run it out.....but Propane?
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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.

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Re: [GMCnet] Bad Propane? [message #368604 is a reply to message #368603] Sat, 29 January 2022 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Thanks Fred. Can always count on you for relevant fuel information. It's just that not many issues self correct themselves. Had lighting/flameout issues until I ran the tank nearly dry and did a refill. Problem gone. So, may never know but maybe "less diligent" product quality control certainly might explain it.

Thanks Fred. Looking forward to seeing you and Sharon at Patterson.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Bad Propane? [message #368605 is a reply to message #368604] Sat, 29 January 2022 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Larry wrote on Sat, 29 January 2022 17:17
Thanks Fred. Can always count on you for relevant fuel information. It's just that not many issues self correct themselves. Had lighting/flameout issues until I ran the tank nearly dry and did a refill. Problem gone. So, may never know but maybe "less diligent" product quality control certainly might explain it.

Thanks Fred. Looking forward to seeing you and Sharon at Patterson.
Thinking about it and listening to the fire, todays fire (hot water heater) does not have near the "roar" of sound that last seasons fire did. Hummmm.....


Larry Smile
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Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Bad Propane? [message #368607 is a reply to message #368605] Sat, 29 January 2022 21:21 Go to previous message
dsmithy is currently offline  dsmithy   United States
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Larry,
Fascinating thread.
Who ever heard of getting "bad" propane? I certainly never did; but up jumps Fred who has knowledgeable, specialized experience with a plausible scenario.
Thanks Larry for the unanswerable question, and thank you Fred for demonstrating that it's at least possible to get "bad" propane. I'm guessing that most of us never even considered it possible. But Larry calling out the slightly different burner noise throws a definite nod in Fred's direction.
I love this stuff.


Douglas & Virginia Smith, dsmithy18 at gmail, Lincoln Nebraska, ’73 “Sequoia” since ‘95: "Wanabizo"; Quadrabag/6 wheel disks/3:70 final/Paterson QuadraJet/Thorley’s/Alloy wheels/Sundry other
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