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To Ken. B. This is NOT intended to be a racist comment. Isn't there something from a very old movie
that goes something like "you're a better man than me "Gunga Din"
DAVE KING
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| Re: What a day. [message #362072 is a reply to message #361985] |
Fri, 29 January 2021 09:46 |
Ken Burton
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Jim,
I am not doing the rescue. My friend is. I am just helping by doing the transportation even though I am 200 miles away from where the horse is now. The horse in question is less than 2 years old. He needed someone to step in and say I will take care of him and fix his medical issues.
I myself am not into horses, but this guy is really worth saving even though the owner does not have the financial means to do it. It is an expensive proposition for the owner and I am trying to reduce some of his expenses. The owner bought the trailer sight unseen and I went to pick it up since I was the one that would be towing it initially. It was only 50 miles away. The price was right but the tires and lighting were not as advertised. That with the flat tire delay and the incoming weather arriving is what got me into the original jam I posted about.
I replaced all of the tires yesterday. It really needed them so I threw in another $500 for the tires. Working outside in the cold.My daughter and I replaced both tail / brake light assemblies. I was going to use DOT approved LED lights and then decided that it was seldom going to be on the highways so regular ones were a better deal. The clearance and license plate lights are still in inoperative but no one is going to stop us for that. I would love to fix them too before it leaves here, but it is just too cold to do other than essential work on it. In the end the trailer will end up with the horse about 95 miles from here near Aurora, Illinois.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: What a day. [message #362073 is a reply to message #362038] |
Fri, 29 January 2021 10:54 |
Ken Burton
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David,
Because you posted from Ontario, I will give you some additional information I have learned about horses. Guess where more of these horses are sent for slaughter? Quebec. Also a few go to Mexico.
Also in tracing this horse's background we found he came from an auction in Kalona, Iowa which is Amish territory and is known to be a real hell hole for horses.
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs161/1101655399670/archive/1125897902716.html
He has never had shoes and his hooves were never trimmed flat. His left rear ankle was dislocated. Probably from stepping in a hole and it was never tended to at the time. He was sold at Kalona with a clean bill of health and transported to another auction in Madison, Wis. where he was put in a pen to be sold again with other horses for slaughter. There he picked up something call "strangles" a respiratory infection, which is common in these places. He is being treated for this now and is much better. He should complete the strangles treatment next week and be free of that then. He also has had his hoofs trimmed and they are flat now. He currently is isolated from other horses but has 6 less than one year old cow friends that won't leave people and the horse alone. When pronounced strangles free I will transport him to the University of Wisconsin where they will operate on his damaged ankle / hoof and put a pin it. After that I transport him back to Illinois and hopefully to a better life that he would have had as an Amish work horse. Another reason we think he is Amish is he will only eat hay. He did not even know what grain is and would not take treats like carrots. He is learning though.
I am thinking of taking the GMC and towing the trailer when I go to transport him Madison. The only problem is the road up to the farm where he is, is currently snow packed and up hill. This is one of the few occasions where I might need to put on chains on my GMC which I do not have. That distance is only about 1/4 mile.
Enough of all of this I originally posted to say be sure to check the condition of and date of your spare tire and do not expect to get a tire repaired anywhere in the evening or at night these days. Carry a known good spare or get stuck in the cold like I did.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] What a day. [message #362079 is a reply to message #362076] |
Fri, 29 January 2021 12:03 |
James Hupy
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Sometimes we all succumb to the "fingers faster than the brain" syndrome.
It leads to some interesting reads once in a while. No intent for harm,
just happens.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, 9:52 AM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Chines? Did you mean Chains?
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> D C "Mac" Macdonald
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What a day.
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> Ken,
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> If you can figure out how to get them, I have a set of chines in a nice
> box. I acquired them from a GMC friend that took his coach south and knew
> he
> could never need them. They are in a one handle tool box. I would like
> them back at some time in the distant future.
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> Let me know.
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> Matt
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| Re: What a day. [message #362080 is a reply to message #362072] |
Fri, 29 January 2021 12:35 |
C Boyd
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Ken Burton wrote on Fri, 29 January 2021 10:46Jim,
I am not doing the rescue. My friend is. I am just helping by doing the transportation even though I am 200 miles away from where the horse is now. The horse in question is less than 2 years old. He needed someone to step in and say I will take care of him and fix his medical issues.
I myself am not into horses, but this guy is really worth saving even though the owner does not have the financial means to do it. It is an expensive proposition for the owner and I am trying to reduce some of his expenses. The owner bought the trailer sight unseen and I went to pick it up since I was the one that would be towing it initially. It was only 50 miles away. The price was right but the tires and lighting were not as advertised. That with the flat tire delay and the incoming weather arriving is what got me into the original jam I posted about.
I replaced all of the tires yesterday. It really needed them so I threw in another $500 for the tires. Working outside in the cold.My daughter and I replaced both tail / brake light assemblies. I was going to use DOT approved LED lights and then decided that it was seldom going to be on the highways so regular ones were a better deal. The clearance and license plate lights are still in inoperative but no one is going to stop us for that. I would love to fix them too before it leaves here, but it is just too cold to do other than essential work on it. In the end the trailer will end up with the horse about 95 miles from here near Aurora, Illinois.
C. Boyd
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| Re: What a day. [message #362081 is a reply to message #361985] |
Fri, 29 January 2021 13:53 |
Ken Burton
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As I read that I wondered what I was going to do this the chimes. I pictured having to get out an dance with them before I tried to drive up the hill. Then I though of wind chimes and some type of vodo ceremony or something like that. I was going to ask Matt how he wanted me to use them and maybe send me a video Finally I realized he meant chains.
Thanks Matt, but I think I will just use the Pckup and stay somewhere like Super 8, or Hampton, or Holiday Inn, and leave the GMC parked at home inside.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: What a day. [message #362082 is a reply to message #362081] |
Fri, 29 January 2021 14:09 |
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Ken Burton wrote on Fri, 29 January 2021 14:53As I read that I wondered what I was going to do this the chimes. I pictured having to get out an dance with them before I tried to drive up the hill. Then I though of wind chimes and some type of vodo ceremony or something like that. I was going to ask Matt how he wanted me to use them and maybe send me a video Finally I realized he meant chains.
Thanks Matt, but I think I will just use the Pckup and stay somewhere like Super 8, or Hampton, or Holiday Inn, and leave the GMC parked at home inside.
Yes, I did mean chains, but I am stuck with a key board I don't like very much.
I like your second plan a lot.
Be Safe and Well
Matt
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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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| Re: [GMCnet] What a day. [message #362091 is a reply to message #362072] |
Fri, 29 January 2021 18:09 |
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As others have suggested, be sure to check the wheel bearings before putting a load in that trailer.
> On 01/29/2021 7:46 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist wrote:
> e sure
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> Jim,
> I am not doing the rescue. My friend is. I am just helping by doing the transportation even though I am 200 miles away from where the horse is now.
> The horse in question is less than 2 years old. He needed someone to step in and say I will take care of him and fix his medical issues.
>
> I myself am not into horses, but this guy is really worth saving even though the owner does not have the financial means to do it. It is an expensive
> proposition for the owner and I am trying to reduce some of his expenses. The owner bought the trailer sight unseen and I went to pick it up since I
> was the one that would be towing it initially. It was only 50 miles away. The price was right but the tires and lighting were not as advertised.
> That with the flat tire delay and the incoming weather arriving is what got me into the original jam I posted about.
>
> I replaced all of the tires yesterday. It really needed them so I threw in another $500 for the tires. Working outside in the cold.My daughter and I
> replaced both tail / brake light assemblies. I was going to use DOT approved LED lights and then decided that it was seldom going to be on the
> highways so regular ones were a better deal. The clearance and license plate lights are still in inoperative but no one is going to stop us for that.
> I would love to fix them too before it leaves here, but it is just too cold to do other than essential work on it. In the end the trailer will end
> up with the horse about 95 miles from here near Aurora, Illinois.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: What a day. [message #362108 is a reply to message #361985] |
Sat, 30 January 2021 15:09 |
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to Ken B, I don't know if you remember who I am but I met you at one of Matt C's brunches at some place in Michigan.
I spent more than 25 years at IBM Toronto Manufacturing most of it as a pencil pushed in what they now call materials
management. When the Toronto Emergency Order Desk got in trouble with Corporate, I spent a couple of years getting it from last place in North America
to 1st place in how Corporate measured it. I also had some jobs that involved travel to various IBM U.S.A. Manufacturing plants and had a week and a half
trip to IBM Sweden. IBM sold the Toronto Manufacturing business to Celestica in about 1994 and I moved to the new Company doing the same job. I retired with a "golden handshke I think in 2002. GMC content, I found the forum when i still worked for IBM
A couple of weeks ago I had a trip somewhat like yours to get rid on the left over tires and wheels off of GMC YUKON when it went to scrap.
DAVE KING
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: What a day. [message #362134 is a reply to message #362108] |
Mon, 01 February 2021 00:08 |
Ken Burton
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I definitely remember you and every time I see a posting from you I want to call you King David (from Toronto).
kingd wrote on Sat, 30 January 2021 15:09to Ken B, I don't know if you remember who I am but I met you at one of Matt C's brunches at some place in Michigan.
I spent more than 25 years at IBM Toronto Manufacturing most of it as a pencil pushed in what they now call materials
management. When the Toronto Emergency Order Desk got in trouble with Corporate, I spent a couple of years getting it from last place in North America
to 1st place in how Corporate measured it. I also had some jobs that involved travel to various IBM U.S.A. Manufacturing plants and had a week and a half
trip to IBM Sweden. IBM sold the Toronto Manufacturing business to Celestica in about 1994 and I moved to the new Company doing the same job. I retired with a "golden handshke I think in 2002. GMC content, I found the forum when i still worked for IBM
A couple of weeks ago I had a trip somewhat like yours to get rid on the left over tires and wheels off of GMC YUKON when it went to scrap.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: What a day. [message #362167 is a reply to message #361985] |
Tue, 02 February 2021 11:56 |
kingd
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GMC content. As you can see from my sig file I'm a "wannabe" and have been forever. I have an acquaintance who is one of the
most competent mechanics I have ever encountered. He used to own 2 GMC MHs that he sold a few years ago. His explanation was that he was
getting too old to deal with 40 plus year old vehicles. He wanted to be able to use his when he wanted to, not try to keep a 40+ year
old house on wheels running. As some of you have found out even getting small things done at a shop (not a GMCMH specialty shop) can
be challenging. I haven't completely given up on a GMCMH but I see my having one sort of slipping away. I still love reading about what you
are doing with yours.
When things open back up I should probably think about getting on the "black list" for people who need help in Southern Ontario.
DAVE KING
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: What a day. [message #362177 is a reply to message #361985] |
Wed, 03 February 2021 00:49 |
Ken Burton
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Fave,
You are the kind of people we need around here. Owner, former owner, or non-owner, I believe all are welcome and I appreciate your comments and technical expertise. I see you originally registered in 2004. So I can say over the years you have contributed a lot for all of us.
Thanks.
Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: What a day. [message #362215 is a reply to message #361985] |
Thu, 04 February 2021 23:12 |
Ken Burton
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A note of thanks to those people who contributed to this effort.
I did NOT solicit contributions here or anywhere, but to those who decided on their own to help, your contribution to this effort to save this horse is definitely appreciated. I sent notes and a couple of pictures and the owners name / email to all of you, except one person. To the one person who contributed via Paypal, that I can not identify so I can not send you a personal message, we thank you here instead. I will accept any donations, including anonymous ones.
All unsolicited donations are being applied to the several thousand dollar unexpected bills that are piling up.
Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU
Because of the hurried time to get ToBe out of there and the distance away, we did not use the GMC and horse trailer that started this thread. It was just too far and put together to quickly to use our own equipment.
UPDATE ON the horse (named ToBe)
He is doing quite well and has an appointment to go to the University of Wisconsin Horse Clinic for an MRI and probably hoof surgery in 2.5 weeks.
You can not dream up the following stuff.
We got strong indications through others local to him, including the Vet, and direct emails from the stable, that the stable owner was increasingly unstable with regards to boarding ToBe. We were advised to move the horse out of there immediately. His pre-paid boarding contract was suppose to be until the end of February.
Yesterday in a matter of hours the horse owner was able to put together a rescue and move effort to get the horse out of there to a new (temporary) location about 100 miles away. He will stay there until he goes to University of Wisconsin. On 10 minutes notice we sent a transport person to the horses location to pick him up. Meanwhile, I drove 3 hours and the owner drove 1 hour to his new temporary location to be there when ToBe arrived. When the trailer arrived and before he was unloaded, ToBe gave out a happy whinny when he saw his owner waiting. This was at 9:45 PM. We stayed there until almost 1 AM to get him adjusted to his new temporary home. He appeared very happy when we left there in the middle of the night. He looks the best we have seen him since we first got him.
So thank you to everyone who helped, including the anonymous paypal person. Some day you will tell me who you are.
I do not do facebook but here are some links to pictures there IF it works.
Ken B.
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Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: What a day. [message #364103 is a reply to message #362215] |
Tue, 18 May 2021 03:44 |
Ken Burton
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Well here we are almost 3.5 months later. I have been sending occasional notes off net to people who donated to this project but I decided to put this update on here for anyone who is interested.
The horse owner and I have been though a lot of setbacks and delay getting this to this point. Here is where we are on this project: Two very good informal teams have been put together. One here in Illinois where ToBe is stabled and one at the University of Wisconsin.
After several attempts and set backs, we finally got ToBe up there to Madison last Thursday when all of the necessary people were there on the same day.
The result is they are not going to have to do surgery on him.
At Madison they did an ultrasound, CT Scan, and an MRI, The experts then decided that they could design a special pair of shoes and a fiber glass cast. The shoes were designed, built, and fitted on site while we were there. They point the hoof down a bit in front and will hold a severed tendon to be repaired in place so it can grow back together again. Several sets of shoes will have to be made and installed as he progresses.
Here in Illinois a very respected local doctor will inject stem cells and blood plasma, made out of his own blood, into the area to be healed to promote the re-growth of the severed tendon. This local Doc specializes in race and show horses. He is very familiar with the procedures necessary and is totally committed and invested in this project.
The horse (his name is ToBe) stood on those legs and new shoes for 2.5 hours with no problems while I hauled him back home to Illinois Thursday night. ToBe does not like the shoes.
The local Doc was there first thing Friday morning at 7 AM to check on him and check on their work in Madison. He was back again on Sunday. On Monday he also going to study the results from of the tests done at Madison.
So the immediate process now is to walk him for 15 minutes a day for the next 2 weeks. After that, they will turn him loose by himself in a small corral daily for a little exercise on his own. I do not know what happens after that.
I spoke with a nurse for humans at a local people hospital today (She is into horses too). The nurse told me that they do the centrifuge blood plasma thing for people as a treatment for arthritis. The have done the centrifuge work for animal blood there too. I guess it is fairly common. I do not know where the horse Doc will get it done because he is 95 miles away from me here in Indiana.
We also found out there is a source for several types of horse stem cells in Ohio. Again this is up to the local horse doc and the University to set up. I am just an observer and teamster in this project.
So that is where we stand on ToBe other than being $1400 poorer after Saturday. This is quite a big project and I never imagined that I would ever be involved with a horse, but for my minor part it has been very rewarding but time consuming.
ToBe's birthday was 2 weeks ago. He is 2 years old. We have been given an 80% chance that he will fully recover. I think that is pretty good odds and he should be a happy horse long after I am gone.
I realize this is not GMC stuff but enough GMCers have expressed interest so I posted this update here.
Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: What a day. (non-GMC) [message #369321 is a reply to message #364103] |
Thu, 31 March 2022 01:33 |
Ken Burton
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I just realized that it has been 10 months or so (a while). I have sent out a few private emails, but I have not posted an update to everyone.
So the special shoe that the university of Wisconsin made did not last long. So we got another farrier involved and had him make one we liked much, much better. The shoe is all steel and aluminum and has a fish tail out the back about 5 inches long. It keeps his hoof pointed down 6 or 7 degrees to prevent him from over extending it and to allow the tendon to continue to regrow.
ToBe has been on a "No turn out status" all of this time and was only allowed to to walked on a lead for 20 to 60 minutes a day. A local trainer was suppose too be walking him every day inside the stable and the attached indoor arena.
On Feb 28th the vet came out and ran another ultra sound and said (and showed us) that his tendon is now 70% repaired. He changed the requirements of the shoe to a 3 degrees toe down from 6 degrees, and reduced the fish tail. We went through two farriers and finally got a shoe made and installed to our specs.
Last week we moved ToBe to a different much larger stall that has an additional walk out area to allow him to walk around as much as he likes and get use to the new shoe angles. After a couple of weeks of this they will take him outside and let him be free in a small corral by himself. He is still being hand walked on a lead by a new different trainer (the other one was escorted off the property on March 1 for other reasons besides us). ToBe is occasionally allowed loose in the inside arena too. I like the new trainer.
That is where we are. He is getting much better and is one handsome horse. He is still young and wants to run and play. Our restricting him so he does not re-injure himself has been our major concern. Everything looks good and soon he should be able to be a real horse again. He gets lots of attention from the stable staff and especially his owner. \
Feel free to send me a note or PM if you have any questions.
Again, Thank you for those who contributed and to those that are just interested..
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: What a day. [message #369324 is a reply to message #361985] |
Thu, 31 March 2022 07:53 |
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King Dave, did you ever attend the IBM Golden Circle awards in Miami or Palm Desert? I was on the audio vendor crew for those shows and in each location for about 6 weeks. The Reba band plane disaster happened as we were gearing up in PD and we switched to Huey Lewis at the last moment.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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