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[GMCnet] opinions please [message #346478] Thu, 15 August 2019 12:32 Go to next message
Len Novak is currently offline  Len Novak   United States
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I'm considering having the roof done with Line X, a truck bed liner product.
It is supposed to be leak proof and bulletproof.

Pros?
Cons?
Opinions?

Len and Pat Novak
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375

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Len and Pat Novak 1978 GMC Kingsley The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see! Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375 www.bdub.net/novak/
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346480 is a reply to message #346478] Thu, 15 August 2019 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NextGenGMC is currently offline  NextGenGMC   United States
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That stuff is HEAVY. I would be hesitant to put it on top of the highest point on the vehicle.

Vadim Jitkov '76 Glenbrook 26' Pullman, WA
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346481 is a reply to message #346478] Thu, 15 August 2019 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Inside or out? If you are doing the outside, keep in mind that initially
it looks great being jet black. But over time the UV causes the black to
fade and it becomes a dull gray.

As for durability, it is great. Heck you could probably roll the entire
motorhome and not even see a scratch on the roof :-)

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On 8/15/19 10:32 AM, Len Novak via Gmclist wrote:
> I'm considering having the roof done with Line X, a truck bed liner product.
> It is supposed to be leak proof and bulletproof.
>
> Pros?
> Cons?
> Opinions?
>
> Len and Pat Novak
> 1978 GMC Kingsley
> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
>
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346482 is a reply to message #346478] Thu, 15 August 2019 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Why? With the exceptions of the 2 end caps, the roof is all 1 piece of
.063" aircraft aluminum. Leak potential is limited to side drip rails, and
seams on the end caps. And of course, the things that penetrate the cap
like A/C units, fans, plumbing vents, Antennae holes, etc. The end caps
leak around the clearance lamps.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 10:33 AM Len Novak via Gmclist <
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> I'm considering having the roof done with Line X, a truck bed liner
> product.
> It is supposed to be leak proof and bulletproof.
>
> Pros?
> Cons?
> Opinions?
>
> Len and Pat Novak
> 1978 GMC Kingsley
> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346485 is a reply to message #346481] Thu, 15 August 2019 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Stragand is currently offline  Dave Stragand   United States
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IIRC, you can get Line-X in just about any color...

-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh

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Inside or out? If you are doing the outside, keep in mind that initially
it looks great being jet black. But over time the UV causes the black to
fade and it becomes a dull gray.

As for durability, it is great. Heck you could probably roll the entire
motorhome and not even see a scratch on the roof :-)

--
Gerard Hickey / WTØF IRLP:3067/Echolink:529661
hickey@kinetic-compute.com DMR: 3102272
425-395-4554

On 8/15/19 10:32 AM, Len Novak via Gmclist wrote:
> I'm considering having the roof done with Line X, a truck bed liner product.
> It is supposed to be leak proof and bulletproof.
>
> Pros?
> Cons?
> Opinions?
>
> Len and Pat Novak
> 1978 GMC Kingsley
> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346486 is a reply to message #346485] Thu, 15 August 2019 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Len Novak is currently offline  Len Novak   United States
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Was going to use white

Len and Pat Novak
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375

www.bdub.net/novak/




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IIRC, you can get Line-X in just about any color...

-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] opinions please

Inside or out? If you are doing the outside, keep in mind that initially
it looks great being jet black. But over time the UV causes the black to
fade and it becomes a dull gray.

As for durability, it is great. Heck you could probably roll the entire
motorhome and not even see a scratch on the roof :-)

--
Gerard Hickey / WTØF IRLP:3067/Echolink:529661
hickey@kinetic-compute.com DMR: 3102272
425-395-4554

On 8/15/19 10:32 AM, Len Novak via Gmclist wrote:
> I'm considering having the roof done with Line X, a truck bed liner product.
> It is supposed to be leak proof and bulletproof.
>
> Pros?
> Cons?
> Opinions?
>
> Len and Pat Novak
> 1978 GMC Kingsley
> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
>
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Len and Pat Novak 1978 GMC Kingsley The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see! Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375 www.bdub.net/novak/
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346487 is a reply to message #346478] Thu, 15 August 2019 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pjburt is currently offline  pjburt   United States
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It would hold up better than regular paint. If you didn't use the gloss, it would make a great nonslip surface.

Jerry Burt Fresno, CA.
73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands
Members: FMCA - GMCMI - GMCWS
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346488 is a reply to message #346480] Thu, 15 August 2019 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have had Line-x in my PU bed for 14 years and almost 200000 miles. It still looks new and is still jet black. I do not know how it will look over the the years in white, and what will happen if the seams try to flex.

I highly recommend Line-x as a product. I just do not know about using it on a GMC roof.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346489 is a reply to message #346488] Thu, 15 August 2019 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Brady is currently offline  Justin Brady   United States
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Linex is great stuff.
I was planning to do my boat in linex white, but was told by 5+ shops that they would not spray it in white because they have had too many warranty claims when it turns yellow.


Justin Brady http://www.thegmcrv.com/ 1976 Palm Beach 455
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346490 is a reply to message #346487] Thu, 15 August 2019 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That won’t stop the water which is coming in your windows and bodyside
seams. Just sayin.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:22 PM Jerry Burt via Gmclist <
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> It would hold up better than regular paint. If you didn't use the gloss,
> it would make a great nonslip surface.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346491 is a reply to message #346490] Thu, 15 August 2019 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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But if you use white or a really light tan, I'll bet the coach will stay cooler and/or have more effective air conditioning. Several years ago, I used my Infrared Thermometer to check the temperature of my three vehicles. The temp of the skin of the white GMC truck was over 20 degrees cooler than that of the dark red Ford truck and 15 degrees cooler than the medium red Explorer!

There is a very good reason that white vehicles are so popular in Oklahoma!

73 de Mac, K2GKK/5​
Since 30 Nov 1953​
Oklahoma City, OK​
USAF, Retired ('61-'81)​
FAA, Retired ('94-'10)

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That won’t stop the water which is coming in your windows and bodyside
seams. Just sayin.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:22 PM Jerry Burt via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> It would hold up better than regular paint. If you didn't use the gloss,
> it would make a great nonslip surface.
> --
> Patti & Jerry Burt Fresno, CA.
> 73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands
> 77 Palm Beach - Parts Coach
> Members: FMCA - GMCMI - GMCWS
> A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour.

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Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346493 is a reply to message #346490] Thu, 15 August 2019 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pjburt is currently offline  pjburt   United States
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I wouldn't expect doing the roof to seal the windows or side seam. Very Happy Or, even the gutters and cross seams. If I were younger and still climbing on the roof, I'd certainly consider Line-x.

sgltrac wrote on Thu, 15 August 2019 13:44
That won't stop the water which is coming in your windows and bodyside
seams. Just sayin.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:22 PM Jerry Burt via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> It would hold up better than regular paint. If you didn't use the gloss,
> it would make a great nonslip surface.
> --
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> 73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346494 is a reply to message #346482] Thu, 15 August 2019 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree with Jim Hupy. The roof is one piece acft alum. except like Jim said. I think
you would be better off stripping the roof of everything including the rails. Making
all required repairs. Then reseal correctly. I did mine 3 years ago and have no leaks.
Also did all the windows. Should be good for about 5 years then I'll redo the rails.

My 2 cents.

jim Galbavy
'73 x-CL, ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346504 is a reply to message #346489] Thu, 15 August 2019 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Justin Brady wrote on Thu, 15 August 2019 15:47
Linex is great stuff.
I was planning to do my boat in linex white, but was told by 5+ shops that they would not spray it in white because they have had too many warranty claims when it turns yellow.
That is one complaint I have not heard. I only have experience with my PU truck bed and would do it again if I buy a different PU truck.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346507 is a reply to message #346504] Fri, 16 August 2019 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Saw a GMC that had the roof done in Line-X or a competing product. Painted the roof the match the body color. From the ground, looked okay. A great total non-skid surface. GMC was or is owned by Dolph S. A great guy and good member.
The companies that advertise in FMCA magazine want $4K for their roof treatment, just in case you are wondering.
Tom


2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552 KA4CSG
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346509 is a reply to message #346478] Fri, 16 August 2019 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I recently saw a recommendation for Durabak. It's available in a number of colors and they both smooth and textured versions.

Christo Darsch
GMC Nor'easters
1977 Eleganza II - "The Komet"
3.50 Power Drive, Disc Brakes, Alcoas
Weymouth, MA
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346514 is a reply to message #346478] Fri, 16 August 2019 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Opinion? Not a good idea. If you want something on the roof, speak to Tom Pryor - he used an insulating compound.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346517 is a reply to message #346509] Fri, 16 August 2019 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One more tiny bit to consider. Should the inevitable occur, and you develop
a leak under the line-x, how are you going to access it for repairs?
Reason that I brought this up is this. One of the previous owners of
my coach thought it would be a SWELL IDEA (not) to dig the original seam
seal out of the end cap seams and the drip rails without removing the
aluminum extrusions. He then proceeded to fill the gaps with silicone seal
of some kind, and then top coat it with automotive body filler. (Bondo) He
never troweled it smooth, nor did he sand it. He just left it looking like
sour owl crap. Then, as the years rolled by, the bondo did what it does,
crack and shrink. Leaving me with an ungodly mess. I think of him not in a
kind way, every time I address another roof leak. One of these days, I will
remove everything from the roof, sand and grind all traces of that stuff,
remove, straighten, and seal and replace the drip rails, prime the roof
with the appropriate etching primer for aluminum, and repaint the roof. Not
fun, not fun.
So, consider wisely your actions, grasshopper, don't do something the next
owner of your coach might have to deal with.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

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> I recently saw a recommendation for Durabak. It's available in a number of
> colors and they both smooth and textured versions.
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions please [message #346526 is a reply to message #346486] Fri, 16 August 2019 16:03 Go to previous message
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My parts coach had it.

It was heavy, ugly, and needed freshened, and I couldn’t find something to clean it up with.


Dolph Santorine

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission


> On Aug 15, 2019, at 4:08 PM, Len Novak via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Was going to use white
>
> Len and Pat Novak
> 1978 GMC Kingsley
> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dave Stragand via Gmclist
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 12:28 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Cc: Dave Stragand
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] opinions please
>
> IIRC, you can get Line-X in just about any color...
>
> -Dave
> 1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Hickey via Gmclist
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 1:52 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] opinions please
>
> Inside or out? If you are doing the outside, keep in mind that initially
> it looks great being jet black. But over time the UV causes the black to
> fade and it becomes a dull gray.
>
> As for durability, it is great. Heck you could probably roll the entire
> motorhome and not even see a scratch on the roof :-)
>
> --
> Gerard Hickey / WTØF IRLP:3067/Echolink:529661
> hickey@kinetic-compute.com DMR: 3102272
> 425-395-4554
>
>> On 8/15/19 10:32 AM, Len Novak via Gmclist wrote:
>> I'm considering having the roof done with Line X, a truck bed liner product.
>> It is supposed to be leak proof and bulletproof.
>>
>> Pros?
>> Cons?
>> Opinions?
>>
>> Len and Pat Novak
>> 1978 GMC Kingsley
>> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
>> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>>
>> www.bdub.net/novak/
>>
>>
>>
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