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[GMCnet] GMC CRV Toad Q. [message #329001] Fri, 09 February 2018 21:20 Go to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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I've replaced the faithful '99 CRV with a 2014 CRV, a/o 3 weeks ago. There
was really nothing wrong with the '99, but since post-2014 models cannot be
towed 4-down, I thought I'd better go ahead and upgrade before all the
2014's accumulated too much mileage. I got one with 41,000 miles, which
ain't much for a Honda.

George Zhookoff came down for 2-1/2 days to help me install the base plate
and trailer hitch (and to take the '99 home with him). We managed to snap
the whole thing apart and back together (that's mostly how it's assembled
-- with little plastic clips). Underneath, 'most everything is covered
with black plastic, on top of which there's thin white acoustic
insulation.. Some of those covers are downright weird, since I don't know
what they're hiding. I'm hoping someone here has an idea (Google hasn't
helped).

The most weirdest stuff, which I don't want to have to R&R a bunch of
plastic clips to investigate, are two plastic "boxes" running down the
sides of the car beneath the floorboards. On the left, the box covers
"stuff" behind the engine compartment and back to the front portion of the
gas tank. I've no idea what the "stuff" is. On the passenger's side,
there's an even longer box, averaging maybe 11" wide by 5" high by 60" long
with no apparent reason for existence -- I see no pipes nor wires leading
into it! Can't even tell whether there's anything in there.

Anybody got any ideas? Sure hope so, 'cause if not, I'll inevitably have
to R&R them and I may destroy 1/2 of the plastic clips. I've already
bought about 50 of them of 3 types (there must be 10 types). 15 of the
most important ones cost me $9.95. Identical looking items, with the Honda
logo, would have been $89.95!

HELP!

Ken H.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC CRV Toad Q. [message #329004 is a reply to message #329001] Fri, 09 February 2018 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jimmy_Bonez is currently offline  Jimmy_Bonez   United States
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Ken. I’m a autobody Technician and I’m trying to figure what you are taking off your CRV. Most CRVS have two long plastic covers on either side held in by varying clips and some 10mm bolts. Those usually cover all your lower break lines and resonators and fuel lines and gas tank and should be put back on to limit road debris from damaging all those components. If you could snag a picture and send it to me I could help you out a little better. My number is (six0three)two35-one57six.

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> On Feb 9, 2018, at 8:20 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> I've replaced the faithful '99 CRV with a 2014 CRV, a/o 3 weeks ago. There
> was really nothing wrong with the '99, but since post-2014 models cannot be
> towed 4-down, I thought I'd better go ahead and upgrade before all the
> 2014's accumulated too much mileage. I got one with 41,000 miles, which
> ain't much for a Honda.
>
> George Zhookoff came down for 2-1/2 days to help me install the base plate
> and trailer hitch (and to take the '99 home with him). We managed to snap
> the whole thing apart and back together (that's mostly how it's assembled
> -- with little plastic clips). Underneath, 'most everything is covered
> with black plastic, on top of which there's thin white acoustic
> insulation.. Some of those covers are downright weird, since I don't know
> what they're hiding. I'm hoping someone here has an idea (Google hasn't
> helped).
>
> The most weirdest stuff, which I don't want to have to R&R a bunch of
> plastic clips to investigate, are two plastic "boxes" running down the
> sides of the car beneath the floorboards. On the left, the box covers
> "stuff" behind the engine compartment and back to the front portion of the
> gas tank. I've no idea what the "stuff" is. On the passenger's side,
> there's an even longer box, averaging maybe 11" wide by 5" high by 60" long
> with no apparent reason for existence -- I see no pipes nor wires leading
> into it! Can't even tell whether there's anything in there.
>
> Anybody got any ideas? Sure hope so, 'cause if not, I'll inevitably have
> to R&R them and I may destroy 1/2 of the plastic clips. I've already
> bought about 50 of them of 3 types (there must be 10 types). 15 of the
> most important ones cost me $9.95. Identical looking items, with the Honda
> logo, would have been $89.95!
>
> HELP!
>
> Ken H.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC CRV Toad Q. [message #329007 is a reply to message #329004] Sat, 10 February 2018 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Jim,

I'm talking about the plastic shields down each side underneath, outboard
of the centerline where a driveshaft would be on an AWD, and outside the
exhaust system. That is apparently the same as you've described -- but
only on the left side, where there are lines, hoses, and wires passing, and
the gas tank is visible. Just seems like a lot of room for a little bit of
stuff.

The big mystery is the right side where I see nothing passing into nor out
of the long "box".

I haven't taken either of the covers off yet, and have replaced the CRV on
the with the GMC, making photos difficult for a few days.

Thanks for any ideas you have.

​Ken H.


On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Jim DeMellia
wrote:

> Ken. I’m a autobody Technician and I’m trying to figure what you are
> taking off your CRV. Most CRVS have two long plastic covers on either side
> held in by varying clips and some 10mm bolts. Those usually cover all your
> lower break lines and resonators and fuel lines and gas tank and should be
> put back on to limit road debris from damaging all those components. If you
> could snag a picture and send it to me I could help you out a little
> better. My number is (six0three)two35-one57six.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC CRV Toad Q. [message #329009 is a reply to message #329001] Sat, 10 February 2018 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SpookyEng is currently offline  SpookyEng   United States
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Many of those covers on modern cars are only there to smooth underbody airflow for aerodynamic reasons.

JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition Navarre, FL
Re: [GMCnet] GMC CRV Toad Q. [message #329011 is a reply to message #329009] Sat, 10 February 2018 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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JD,

I'm suspecting that's the purpose of the right underside box.

I'm doing an ad-hoc design of a permanently mounted toad brake on the '14
CRV. It uses a "pedal puller" similar to the one I described for the GMC's
parking brake. I'm beginning to suspect an active vacuum booster may be
required, but I've used up most of the tiny available space in the engine
compartment. That box underneath may be a feasible location for a Ford
vacuum pump -- except for Larry W's recent discoveries; it's not a
particularly benign environment. Maybe the smaller GM JC-4 will be
adequate and fit under the hood.

Ken H.

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 7:42 AM, Jdlisenby-AT-hotmail-DOT-com <
jdlisenby-AT-hotmail-DOT-com> wrote:

> Many of those covers on modern cars are only there to smooth underbody
> airflow for aerodynamic reasons.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC CRV Toad Q. [message #329012 is a reply to message #329011] Sat, 10 February 2018 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe subdividing part of the existing box with some rubber or plastic trimmed to fit (a box within a box) would provide enough isolation from the elements to mitigate the corrrosion issues with the vacuum pump?

JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition Navarre, FL
Re: [GMCnet] GMC CRV Toad Q. [message #329014 is a reply to message #329012] Sat, 10 February 2018 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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If the need persists, I'll have to try something like that. For now, I'm
still hoping someone knows what's already in there.

Ken H.


On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Jdlisenby-AT-hotmail-DOT-com <
jdlisenby-AT-hotmail-DOT-com> wrote:

> Maybe subdividing part of the existing box with some rubber or plastic
> trimmed to fit (a box within a box) would provide enough isolation from the
> elements to mitigate the corrrosion issues with the vacuum pump?
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC CRV Toad Q. [message #329034 is a reply to message #329014] Sat, 10 February 2018 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken, Harbor Freight Endoscope and a couple of small holes?

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Stretch Las Cruces NM

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC CRV Toad Q. [message #329041 is a reply to message #329034] Sat, 10 February 2018 15:50 Go to previous message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Hey, Hal, what an idea! Especially since I have a cheap endoscope that I
hadn't thought of using -- despite Bob's radiator plans! :-)

I'll try that tomorrow & report back.

Ken H.


On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Hal Kading wrote:

> Ken, Harbor Freight Endoscope and a couple of small holes?
>
> Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Stretch Las Cruces NM
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