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[GMCnet] bearings [message #327960] Sun, 07 January 2018 16:07 Go to next message
Brian Waddell is currently offline  Brian Waddell   United States
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I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might replace the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the gmcnet in the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought them a few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is the closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do front wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..

brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327961 is a reply to message #327960] Sun, 07 January 2018 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since you have a 77 it should be one of the best driving. Have you diagnosed by reading Rob Mueller's thesis on the subject? You can find it at GMC Eastern States site. I was fortunate to be able to get the home aligmment kit that was as offered by Jerry Work a while back. That put the finishing touch on mine.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327963 is a reply to message #327960] Sun, 07 January 2018 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach won't
steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the coach."
Particularly the forward bogies.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:

> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might replace
> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the gmcnet in
> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought them a
> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg
> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is the
> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do front
> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>
> brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327964 is a reply to message #327961] Sun, 07 January 2018 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Waddell is currently offline  Brian Waddell   United States
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yep...did all that Mueller stuff on front end inspection...I have been through this discussion before here on the net...I would like to drive the coach somewhere to have the front bearings replaced a zerk installed...I know I could send the knuckles out but would like to take the coach to someone capable and known to be so...Brian 77 ele 455


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Since you have a 77 it should be one of the best driving. Have you diagnosed by reading Rob Mueller's thesis on the subject? You can find it at GMC
Eastern States site. I was fortunate to be able to get the home aligmment kit that was as offered by Jerry Work a while back. That put the finishing
touch on mine.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II


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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327965 is a reply to message #327963] Sun, 07 January 2018 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Waddell is currently offline  Brian Waddell   United States
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replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies ....solid tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455


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Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
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Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach won't
steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the coach."
Particularly the forward bogies.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:

> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might replace
> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the gmcnet in
> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought them a
> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg
> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is the
> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do front
> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>
> brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327966 is a reply to message #327960] Sun, 07 January 2018 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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How about tires? Are you running all steel belts, or steel belt treads with
rag sidewalls? Inflation pressures?
Jim Hupy

On Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:

replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies ....solid
tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455


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jamesh1296@gmail.com>
Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings

Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach won't
steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the coach."
Particularly the forward bogies.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:

> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might
replace
> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the gmcnet
in
> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought them
a
> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg
> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is
the
> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do front
> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>
> brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327967 is a reply to message #327960] Sun, 07 January 2018 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Most of the time when someone complains of this kind of steering issue, the steering gear is no longer on "high point'. I'm guessing that at some time in the past, someone took your steering shaft apart and did not put it back together right. There is a very specific procedure that needs to be followed to get it back where it belongs. Alex Ferrara has mastered the art of putting it on high point and cured something over 100 GMC's with handling manners. So, driving your coach to Florida to have Alex F. do the adjustment on your steering box is not practical. So check out this set of instructions posted on the GMCphoto site of how to do High Point.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-gear-box/p52883-set-steering-box-highpoint.html

Let us know how things turn out.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327968 is a reply to message #327966] Sun, 07 January 2018 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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been through this but thanks for the suggestions...new BFG radial 16 inch with new alcoas varied psi...no change...new hub extensions on and off...no change....new relay and pitmann and alignment and other pivot point arm (forget name)...no change and steering linkage and steering cv new lube and tolerences checked and taken off and tried and tried different positions on that blue telescoping shaft and everything is tight and no change...steering box maybe next but would like to do the front wheell bearings anyway..... by driving it somewhere......where???..Brian 77 ele 455


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Sent: January 7, 2018 4:27 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
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How about tires? Are you running all steel belts, or steel belt treads with
rag sidewalls? Inflation pressures?
Jim Hupy

On Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:

replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies ....solid
tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455


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From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy <
jamesh1296@gmail.com>
Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings

Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach won't
steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the coach."
Particularly the forward bogies.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:

> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might
replace
> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the gmcnet
in
> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought them
a
> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg
> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is
the
> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do front
> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>
> brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327969 is a reply to message #327960] Sun, 07 January 2018 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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You are not too far from Cinnabar. $$$ but they do know GMC's.
Jim Hupy

On Jan 7, 2018 3:43 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:

> been through this but thanks for the suggestions...new BFG radial 16 inch
> with new alcoas varied psi...no change...new hub extensions on and
> off...no change....new relay and pitmann and alignment and other pivot
> point arm (forget name)...no change and steering linkage and steering cv
> new lube and tolerences checked and taken off and tried and tried different
> positions on that blue telescoping shaft and everything is tight and no
> change...steering box maybe next but would like to do the front wheell
> bearings anyway..... by driving it somewhere......where???..Brian 77 ele 455
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> Sent: January 7, 2018 4:27 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>
> How about tires? Are you running all steel belts, or steel belt treads with
> rag sidewalls? Inflation pressures?
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>
> replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies ....solid
> tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>
> Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach won't
> steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the coach."
> Particularly the forward bogies.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>
>> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
>> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might
> replace
>> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the gmcnet
> in
>> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought them
> a
>> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
>> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg
>> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is
> the
>> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do front
>> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327971 is a reply to message #327960] Sun, 07 January 2018 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Brian,

When you disassemble the hubs and knuckles you MUST check surfaces that the bearings ride on (the bore of the knuckle and the OD of
the hub). They must be true, square, and concentric. Quite often the bore of the knuckle has been elongated and is oval vertically.
The knuckles were bored with a pointed tool which results in a support area that looks like this a string of WWWWWWW's. The outer
bearing races are supported by the points of the W which "flatten out" over time. The OD of the hub can be tapered as well.

It seems to me that you might want to consider contacting Dave Lenzi and have him ship you complete hub, knuckle, and disk
assemblies with a zerk installed. You could have a local garage remove the existing assemblies from the upper and lower ball joints
which is reasonably straight forward.

Dave's hubs and knuckles are ground to make them true, square, and concentric. Material is flame sprayed on the ground surfaces and
then ground to the correct dimensions.

He supplies brake disks with four bolt holes sourced from Cinnabar which are made in the USA and are not re-drilled units from
China.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Brian Waddell
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 9:07 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] bearings

I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave
L.....might replace the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the gmcnet in the past. I have new front bearings
and seals from Jim K. I bought them a few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not qualified...So my
question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is the
closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do front wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..

brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327972 is a reply to message #327969] Sun, 07 January 2018 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you checked with Tom Struthers and or Harold Kihn? Otherwise, nearest
agglomeration of GMCers in the know would be around the twin cities.

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 5:45 PM, James Hupy wrote:

> You are not too far from Cinnabar. $$$ but they do know GMC's.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Jan 7, 2018 3:43 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>
>> been through this but thanks for the suggestions...new BFG radial 16 inch
>> with new alcoas varied psi...no change...new hub extensions on and
>> off...no change....new relay and pitmann and alignment and other pivot
>> point arm (forget name)...no change and steering linkage and steering cv
>> new lube and tolerences checked and taken off and tried and tried
> different
>> positions on that blue telescoping shaft and everything is tight and no
>> change...steering box maybe next but would like to do the front wheell
>> bearings anyway..... by driving it somewhere......where???..Brian 77 ele
> 455
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
> > jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>> Sent: January 7, 2018 4:27 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>
>> How about tires? Are you running all steel belts, or steel belt treads
> with
>> rag sidewalls? Inflation pressures?
>> Jim Hupy
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>
>> replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies
> ....solid
>> tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
> > jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>> Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>
>> Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach
> won't
>> steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the coach."
>> Particularly the forward bogies.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>
>>> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
>>> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might
>> replace
>>> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the
> gmcnet
>> in
>>> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought
> them
>> a
>>> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
>>> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg
>>> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is
>> the
>>> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do
> front
>>> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>>>
>>> brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327973 is a reply to message #327972] Sun, 07 January 2018 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lot of people rent the bearing tool and have the shop forman call me so I
can guide them on the front. Majority of the time the knuckles will need to
be replaced as they will be loose fit.
You can get the rebuilt one from Dave Lezi or us as we size them to last.
As Jim Hupy mentioned, check the rear for play in the arm.
The rear is a snap to grease. Yes if you have the time , do it properly or
just grease it .
I have observed Penski lub their fleet, they never lift it at all.
Better to have ome rease than to run dry till you have time to do it right.

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Billy Massey wrote:

> Have you checked with Tom Struthers and or Harold Kihn? Otherwise, nearest
> agglomeration of GMCers in the know would be around the twin cities.
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 5:45 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>
>> You are not too far from Cinnabar. $$$ but they do know GMC's.
>> Jim Hupy
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2018 3:43 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>
>>> been through this but thanks for the suggestions...new BFG radial 16
> inch
>>> with new alcoas varied psi...no change...new hub extensions on and
>>> off...no change....new relay and pitmann and alignment and other pivot
>>> point arm (forget name)...no change and steering linkage and steering
> cv
>>> new lube and tolerences checked and taken off and tried and tried
>> different
>>> positions on that blue telescoping shaft and everything is tight and no
>>> change...steering box maybe next but would like to do the front wheell
>>> bearings anyway..... by driving it somewhere......where???..Brian 77
> ele
>> 455
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James
> Hupy
>> >> jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: January 7, 2018 4:27 PM
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>>
>>> How about tires? Are you running all steel belts, or steel belt treads
>> with
>>> rag sidewalls? Inflation pressures?
>>> Jim Hupy
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>>
>>> replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies
>> ....solid
>>> tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James
> Hupy
>> >> jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>>
>>> Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach
>> won't
>>> steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the
> coach."
>>> Particularly the forward bogies.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Or
>>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
>>>> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might
>>> replace
>>>> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the
>> gmcnet
>>> in
>>>> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought
>> them
>>> a
>>>> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
>>>> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near
> Winnipeg
>>>> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where
> is
>>> the
>>>> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do
>> front
>>>> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327977 is a reply to message #327973] Sun, 07 January 2018 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Dave Lenzi's are sized to last as well.

Regards,
Rob M.
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Lot of people rent the bearing tool and have the shop forman call me so I
can guide them on the front. Majority of the time the knuckles will need to be replaced as they will be loose fit.
You can get the rebuilt one from Dave Lezi or us as we size them to last.
As Jim Hupy mentioned, check the rear for play in the arm.
The rear is a snap to grease. Yes if you have the time , do it properly or just grease it .
I have observed Penski lub their fleet, they never lift it at all.
Better to have ome rease than to run dry till you have time to do it right.

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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327979 is a reply to message #327977] Sun, 07 January 2018 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Again a play in words, I did not imply that ours is the oly one.
I guess the word we could have been applied better.

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> Dave Lenzi's are sized to last as well.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> Kanomata
> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 11:28 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>
> Lot of people rent the bearing tool and have the shop forman call me so I
> can guide them on the front. Majority of the time the knuckles will need
> to be replaced as they will be loose fit.
> You can get the rebuilt one from Dave Lezi or us as we size them to last.
> As Jim Hupy mentioned, check the rear for play in the arm.
> The rear is a snap to grease. Yes if you have the time , do it properly or
> just grease it .
> I have observed Penski lub their fleet, they never lift it at all.
> Better to have ome rease than to run dry till you have time to do it right.
>
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327982 is a reply to message #327969] Sun, 07 January 2018 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes...have considered that....but was hoping somewhere closer not so commercial more like one person operation.brian 77 ele 455


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From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
Sent: January 7, 2018 4:45 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings

You are not too far from Cinnabar. $$$ but they do know GMC's.
Jim Hupy

On Jan 7, 2018 3:43 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:

> been through this but thanks for the suggestions...new BFG radial 16 inch
> with new alcoas varied psi...no change...new hub extensions on and
> off...no change....new relay and pitmann and alignment and other pivot
> point arm (forget name)...no change and steering linkage and steering cv
> new lube and tolerences checked and taken off and tried and tried different
> positions on that blue telescoping shaft and everything is tight and no
> change...steering box maybe next but would like to do the front wheell
> bearings anyway..... by driving it somewhere......where???..Brian 77 ele 455
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> Sent: January 7, 2018 4:27 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>
> How about tires? Are you running all steel belts, or steel belt treads with
> rag sidewalls? Inflation pressures?
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>
> replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies ....solid
> tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>
> Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach won't
> steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the coach."
> Particularly the forward bogies.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>
>> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
>> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might
> replace
>> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the gmcnet
> in
>> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought them
> a
>> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
>> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg
>> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is
> the
>> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do front
>> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>>
>> brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327983 is a reply to message #327971] Sun, 07 January 2018 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yea I am familiar with what you say....my friend owns a milling machine shop..I have talked to Dave L...I know I could send them out...just would like a expert like Dave take them apart and inspect...then might even go 1 ton if I know the condition of thing including cv etcs...Brian 77 ele 455


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Sent: January 7, 2018 5:15 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings

Brian,

When you disassemble the hubs and knuckles you MUST check surfaces that the bearings ride on (the bore of the knuckle and the OD of
the hub). They must be true, square, and concentric. Quite often the bore of the knuckle has been elongated and is oval vertically.
The knuckles were bored with a pointed tool which results in a support area that looks like this a string of WWWWWWW's. The outer
bearing races are supported by the points of the W which "flatten out" over time. The OD of the hub can be tapered as well.

It seems to me that you might want to consider contacting Dave Lenzi and have him ship you complete hub, knuckle, and disk
assemblies with a zerk installed. You could have a local garage remove the existing assemblies from the upper and lower ball joints
which is reasonably straight forward.

Dave's hubs and knuckles are ground to make them true, square, and concentric. Material is flame sprayed on the ground surfaces and
then ground to the correct dimensions.

He supplies brake disks with four bolt holes sourced from Cinnabar which are made in the USA and are not re-drilled units from
China.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 9:07 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] bearings

I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave
L.....might replace the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the gmcnet in the past. I have new front bearings
and seals from Jim K. I bought them a few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not qualified...So my
question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is the
closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do front wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..

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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327984 is a reply to message #327972] Sun, 07 January 2018 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No I do not know of those 2 guys...how would I contact them?...where are they?...who in or around twin cities...dave L. could not think of anyone ther e when I talked to him bout 1.5 year ago....Brian 77 ele winnipeg


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Sent: January 7, 2018 5:11 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings

Have you checked with Tom Struthers and or Harold Kihn? Otherwise, nearest
agglomeration of GMCers in the know would be around the twin cities.

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 5:45 PM, James Hupy wrote:

> You are not too far from Cinnabar. $$$ but they do know GMC's.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Jan 7, 2018 3:43 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>
>> been through this but thanks for the suggestions...new BFG radial 16 inch
>> with new alcoas varied psi...no change...new hub extensions on and
>> off...no change....new relay and pitmann and alignment and other pivot
>> point arm (forget name)...no change and steering linkage and steering cv
>> new lube and tolerences checked and taken off and tried and tried
> different
>> positions on that blue telescoping shaft and everything is tight and no
>> change...steering box maybe next but would like to do the front wheell
>> bearings anyway..... by driving it somewhere......where???..Brian 77 ele
> 455
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
> > jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>> Sent: January 7, 2018 4:27 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>
>> How about tires? Are you running all steel belts, or steel belt treads
> with
>> rag sidewalls? Inflation pressures?
>> Jim Hupy
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>
>> replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies
> ....solid
>> tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
> > jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>> Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>
>> Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach
> won't
>> steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the coach."
>> Particularly the forward bogies.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>
>>> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
>>> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might
>> replace
>>> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the
> gmcnet
>> in
>>> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought
> them
>> a
>>> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
>>> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg
>>> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is
>> the
>>> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do
> front
>>> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>>>
>>> brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327985 is a reply to message #327984] Sun, 07 January 2018 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jon Roche. I hope you're getting this.
They're in and around Winnipeg. I'll see if they'll contact you.
Contact me at bdub@bdub.net with your extended contact info.
bdub


On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Brian Waddell wrote:

> No I do not know of those 2 guys...how would I contact them?...where are
> they?...who in or around twin cities...dave L. could not think of anyone
> ther e when I talked to him bout 1.5 year ago....Brian 77 ele winnipeg
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Billy Massey
>
> Sent: January 7, 2018 5:11 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>
> Have you checked with Tom Struthers and or Harold Kihn? Otherwise, nearest
> agglomeration of GMCers in the know would be around the twin cities.
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 5:45 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>
>> You are not too far from Cinnabar. $$$ but they do know GMC's.
>> Jim Hupy
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2018 3:43 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>
>>> been through this but thanks for the suggestions...new BFG radial 16
> inch
>>> with new alcoas varied psi...no change...new hub extensions on and
>>> off...no change....new relay and pitmann and alignment and other pivot
>>> point arm (forget name)...no change and steering linkage and steering
> cv
>>> new lube and tolerences checked and taken off and tried and tried
>> different
>>> positions on that blue telescoping shaft and everything is tight and no
>>> change...steering box maybe next but would like to do the front wheell
>>> bearings anyway..... by driving it somewhere......where???..Brian 77
> ele
>> 455
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James
> Hupy
>> >> jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: January 7, 2018 4:27 PM
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>>
>>> How about tires? Are you running all steel belts, or steel belt treads
>> with
>>> rag sidewalls? Inflation pressures?
>>> Jim Hupy
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>>
>>> replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies
>> ....solid
>>> tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James
> Hupy
>> >> jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>>
>>> Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach
>> won't
>>> steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the
> coach."
>>> Particularly the forward bogies.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Or
>>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
>>>> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might
>>> replace
>>>> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the
>> gmcnet
>>> in
>>>> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought
>> them
>>> a
>>>> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
>>>> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near
> Winnipeg
>>>> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where
> is
>>> the
>>>> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do
>> front
>>>> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>>>>
>>>> brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327986 is a reply to message #327984] Sun, 07 January 2018 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Kelley is currently offline  Mike Kelley   United States
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Brian W.:
Send an e mail to attn of Bob Dunahugh in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
He is very knowledgeable re GMC's and has friends and family in the twin cities area of Minn. He could possibly tell you who could help.
Mike/The Corvair a holic

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> On Jan 7, 2018, at 6:49 PM, Brian Waddell wrote:
>
> No I do not know of those 2 guys...how would I contact them?...where are they?...who in or around twin cities...dave L. could not think of anyone ther e when I talked to him bout 1.5 year ago....Brian 77 ele winnipeg
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Billy Massey
> Sent: January 7, 2018 5:11 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>
> Have you checked with Tom Struthers and or Harold Kihn? Otherwise, nearest
> agglomeration of GMCers in the know would be around the twin cities.
>
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 5:45 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>>
>> You are not too far from Cinnabar. $$$ but they do know GMC's.
>> Jim Hupy
>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2018 3:43 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>>
>>> been through this but thanks for the suggestions...new BFG radial 16 inch
>>> with new alcoas varied psi...no change...new hub extensions on and
>>> off...no change....new relay and pitmann and alignment and other pivot
>>> point arm (forget name)...no change and steering linkage and steering cv
>>> new lube and tolerences checked and taken off and tried and tried
>> different
>>> positions on that blue telescoping shaft and everything is tight and no
>>> change...steering box maybe next but would like to do the front wheell
>>> bearings anyway..... by driving it somewhere......where???..Brian 77 ele
>> 455
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
>> >> jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: January 7, 2018 4:27 PM
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>>
>>> How about tires? Are you running all steel belts, or steel belt treads
>> with
>>> rag sidewalls? Inflation pressures?
>>> Jim Hupy
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>>
>>> replaced the rear bearings and did all measurements on the bogies
>> ....solid
>>> tight and nothing bent...Brian 77 ele 455
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gmclist on behalf of James Hupy
>> >> jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: January 7, 2018 3:59 PM
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] bearings
>>>
>>> Brian, remember this point. "When you can't figure out why you coach
>> won't
>>> steer, look to the rear end. The back end CAN and DOES steer the coach."
>>> Particularly the forward bogies.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Or
>>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>>
>>>> On Jan 7, 2018 2:08 PM, "Brian Waddell" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have not used my 77 gmc elegansa mostly because the steering is so
>>>> bad...I have replaced most components ordered from Dave L.....might
>>> replace
>>>> the steering box next...I have discussed steering issues with the
>> gmcnet
>>> in
>>>> the past. I have new front bearings and seals from Jim K. I bought
>> them
>>> a
>>>> few years ago but decided not to install them as I know I am not
>>>> qualified...So my question...Me and the gmc are situated near Winnipeg
>>>> Manitoba Canada...grand forks Noth Dakota 125mi. or so south...Where is
>>> the
>>>> closest place I could drive this coach to have someone qualified do
>> front
>>>> wheel bearings etc with grease fittings?..
>>>>
>>>> brian 77 ele 455
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Re: [GMCnet] bearings [message #327991 is a reply to message #327960] Sun, 07 January 2018 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Lqqkatjon@gmail.com. Send me an email.

I am just northwest of the twin cities. (St. Cloud)

I do not know those two names above. We suffer from a lack of qualified shops that do work on GMC's. What we do lack in shops up here we have a huge amount of long term GMC owners that have great knowledge and experience. I am fortunate to be able to do my own work and fortunate enough to have that knowledge base to fall back on. If you can I suggest getting involved in the club if you can manage.

I have been around Dave Lenzi's bearings and I feel that is one way to get front end bearings that will out last you. Otherwise borrow a puller and DIY. How many years will it take you to run 30k miles?? Before they are due for service again?

I would tell you to drive it to my place to do bearings, but I am no expert. Comfortable enough to work on my own coach, but do not want to be responsible for your front end.

As far as for drivability. There are too many variables. But there are many experts willing to walk you through some steps. Most issues are ride height and steering box centering related. Next problem I have seen is someone that did not understand the relationship of suspension height doing the wrong adjuatments or installing the wrong parts. We have had some club work rallys checking this, but it is not something the club has been able to do every year.

Send me an email and I can suggest what best
Plan is depending on what you have or have not tried.


Our next club rally is almost a straight shot south of you by sioux falls, sd first weekend in June.

http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/Web%20pages/rally.html



Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

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