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Re: Oil change [message #328008 is a reply to message #327823] Mon, 08 January 2018 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jimmy_Bonez is currently offline  Jimmy_Bonez   United States
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Mike you nailed it. I'm just going to do it at night. Although now driving from Fayetteville to San Antonio we've got a leak of some sort starting. Looks likes it focused around the front crossmemeber. Slow drip of some type can't really tell where it's coming from crawling under there. I'm hoping it's not tranny related.

Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis NH natives 1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
Re: Oil change [message #328011 is a reply to message #327823] Mon, 08 January 2018 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Nutter is currently offline  Scott Nutter   United States
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Jimmy,
Put some type of drip pan under your engine/tranny. If the drips are red it's tranny fluid, Brown to Black is engine oil, green is antifreeze.
Scott.


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Re: Oil change [message #328012 is a reply to message #328008] Mon, 08 January 2018 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Take a good look at the oil lines going to the radiator oil cooler. If they have not ever been changed the rubber will be rock solid and may be leaking. They are high pressure up to 60 PSI on a cold engine start. If they are leaking get a set from JR Slaten or Jim K.

The OEM trans lines are all steel and unless they are badly rusted they should not leak. They are very low pressure at that point simply returning ATF to the tanks pan.


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Re: Oil change [message #328013 is a reply to message #328011] Mon, 08 January 2018 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
midlf is currently offline  midlf   United States
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Scott Nutter wrote on Mon, 08 January 2018 08:46
Jimmy,
Put some type of drip pan under your engine/tranny. If the drips are red it's tranny fluid, Brown to Black is engine oil, green is antifreeze.
Scott.


Clear is power steering.


Steve Southworth
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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] Oil change [message #328014 is a reply to message #328008] Mon, 08 January 2018 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Check the power steering pump -- that's always been my most persistent leak
up front.

Then the front main bearing seal, hoping very sincerely that it's not the
culprit.

Ken H.


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Jim D. wrote:

> Mike you nailed it. I'm just going to do it at night. Although now driving
> from Fayetteville to San Antonio we've got a leak of some sort starting.
> Looks likes it focused around the front crossmemeber. Slow drip of some
> type can't really tell where it's coming from crawling under there. I'm
> hoping
> it's not tranny related.
> --
> Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis
> NH natives
> 1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda
> Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
>
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Re: Oil change [message #328017 is a reply to message #328013] Mon, 08 January 2018 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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As has been said before here on the forum...Do not get under these vehicles without some sort of solid support under the frame. Just a simple ten dollar jack stand placed under each side will save you if something in the suspension gives up while you are under there. These are not the toy cars everybody is riding around in these days and no crew of people will be able to lift it enough for you to escape and you will be crushed if it comes down.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Oil change [message #328018 is a reply to message #327823] Mon, 08 January 2018 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jimmy_Bonez is currently offline  Jimmy_Bonez   United States
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So crawled under there again. Wiped everything down. Appears to engine oil. Hard to pin point the source,the oil is spareyed on a lot of stuff under there. Looks like it's focused around the oil pan but can't be sure yet. I'm sure there related but went to drive the coach around the campground to warm up the fluids and it had a bit of a struggle going into drive. Almost like low on tranny fluid. But once in gear it shifted fine which from my experience if the tranny fluid is low shifting gears is not a thing. Now I'm very baffled.

Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis NH natives 1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
Re: [GMCnet] Oil change [message #328019 is a reply to message #328018] Mon, 08 January 2018 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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The torque converter will leak down and have to fill itself if not driven
for a few days. After you start it and put it in gear it will fill and go
back to its usual operation. No problem.
If you have oil leaking, you will have to find out where it's coming from
to determine the seriousness of the situation. I've always looked at the
little bits mine sprays as complimentary undercoating ...

Mike in NM

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Jim D. wrote:

> So crawled under there again. Wiped everything down. Appears to engine
> oil. Hard to pin point the source,the oil is spareyed on a lot of stuff
> under
> there. Looks like it's focused around the oil pan but can't be sure yet.
> I'm sure there related but went to drive the coach around the campground to
> warm up the fluids and it had a bit of a struggle going into drive. Almost
> like low on tranny fluid. But once in gear it shifted fine which from my
> experience if the tranny fluid is low shifting gears is not a thing. Now
> I'm very baffled.
> --
> Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis
> NH natives
> 1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda
> Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
>
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Re: Oil change [message #328023 is a reply to message #327823] Mon, 08 January 2018 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Nutter is currently offline  Scott Nutter   United States
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Jim,
Out of curiosity, if you open the engine Hatch and look at the top front of the engine. Where the engine oil fill sleeve goes into the engine, is there any oil pooling in that area? Only reason I ask is that you mentioned that the oil is "sprayed". I had a similar issue, turned out to be the forward intake to block gasket. The fan blew the oil all over the place. I forced gasket sealer in the gasket area and it resealed it.
Scott.


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Re: [GMCnet] Oil change [message #328025 is a reply to message #328023] Mon, 08 January 2018 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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More than one leak source up there. The mechanical fuel pump is a likely
culprit, as are the two lower water pump bolts. The 1/4" ones that screw
into the front timing cover. If they are installed without sealant on the
threads, they are guaranteed to leak. Caution here. DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN
THEM. YOU WILL STRIP THE FEMALE THREADS IN THE COVER.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

On Jan 8, 2018 9:16 AM, "Scott Nutter" wrote:

> Jim,
> Out of curiosity, if you open the engine Hatch and look at the top front
> of the engine. Where the engine oil fill sleeve goes into the engine, is
> there any oil pooling in that area? Only reason I ask is that you
> mentioned that the oil is "sprayed". I had a similar issue, turned out to
> be the
> forward intake to block gasket. The fan blew the oil all over the place. I
> forced gasket sealer in the gasket area and it resealed it.
> Scott.
> --
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> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final
> drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi.
> Houston, Texas
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Re: Oil change [message #328031 is a reply to message #327823] Mon, 08 January 2018 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jimmy_Bonez is currently offline  Jimmy_Bonez   United States
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Thanks for all the response guys. I wiped up everything under there pretty good. We are parked at a RV park 15 mins from downtown San Antonio. We're here till Wednesday so the plan is to take an Uber from here and spend the day in the city. I'll take at everything again when we come back to see if it is puddling up anywhere in particular without driving it. Worst case scenario are there any recommendations for shops around the San Antonio, Austin areas in case I can't figure this out thanks again everyone

Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis NH natives 1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
Re: Oil change [message #328039 is a reply to message #328031] Mon, 08 January 2018 14:21 Go to previous message
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Jimmy_Bonez wrote on Mon, 08 January 2018 13:54
Thanks for all the response guys. I wiped up everything under there pretty good. We are parked at a RV park 15 mins from downtown San Antonio. We're here till Wednesday so the plan is to take an Uber from here and spend the day in the city. I'll take at everything again when we come back to see if it is puddling up anywhere in particular without driving it. Worst case scenario are there any recommendations for shops around the San Antonio, Austin areas in case I can't figure this out thanks again everyone

Jimmy,

Use Uber to get you to one of the city bus interchanges. Pick up schedules and then go nuts. The busses are very good, prompt and clean. (And Cheap).

At the Alamo, don't wait in line to get into the chapel. The Museum is the good part. Do the river walk or even take the boat ride.

Matt


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