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Fri, 05 January 2018 16:31  |
Jimmy_Bonez
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So I'm sure people have changed there oil at campsites before but I personally have not. My questions are
Is this frowned upon? Proper cleanup and care will be taken to keep it as clean as possible.
Is it difficult without being able to lift the front end? No ramps and my jack broke last week and haven't had time to scrounge up another one.
I haven't changed the oil in my rig personally yet. I'm capable and have all my tools with me just have never done it. Is there anything in the way of difficulty or specially tools I'll need?
I have 5 quarts Rotella 10w30 1qt of oil additive and a Wix 51258 filter.
Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated
Thanks Jim
Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis
NH natives
1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda
Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil change [message #327824 is a reply to message #327823] |
Fri, 05 January 2018 16:40  |
sgltrac
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I would assume that it is frowned upon. If not, do you have an adequate
catch for the oil? If so drive the rig up onto some wood to gain a little
access and go for it. You may need a strap wrench for the filter. You might
start by attempting to crack the filter loose. If your able to do that then
all you need is a tool capable of pulling the pan drain bolt.
Sully
77 eleganza 2 ( available for purchase)
Bellevue.
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:32 PM Jim D. wrote:
> So I'm sure people have changed there oil at campsites before but I
> personally have not. My questions are
> Is this frowned upon? Proper cleanup and care will be taken to keep it as
> clean as possible.
> Is it difficult without being able to lift the front end? No ramps and my
> jack broke last week and haven't had time to scrounge up another one.
> I haven't changed the oil in my rig personally yet. I'm capable and have
> all my tools with me just have never done it. Is there anything in the way
> of
> difficulty or specially tools I'll need?
> I have 5 quarts Rotella 10w30 1qt of oil additive and a Wix 51258 filter.
> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated
> Thanks Jim
>
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| Re: Oil change [message #327828 is a reply to message #327823] |
Fri, 05 January 2018 18:28 |
jhb1
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Hi
I do it all the time I usually drive around 2-3000 miles each year to reach my vacation spot so a change before i return is a must i carry a low profile oil drain pan and an oil filter wrench and can accomplish this without jacking the coach up. I also installed one of these http://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/f-101.html which makes draining the oil a breeze to get the oil filter is a chore put still can be done loosen from the bottom and remove by reaching thru the hatch inside so you have control of the filter and lay it in the drain pan. Pour the old oil back in the new oil jug and return it to Walmart or where ever you bought as most places take recycled oil.
P.S. i have headers on my 455
HTH
John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
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| Re: Oil change [message #327842 is a reply to message #327823] |
Fri, 05 January 2018 20:49 |
Ken Burton
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I do mine all the time without jacking it up. Just make sure that you can get the filter to turn first before you start draining oil from the pan. If you drain it hot or warm the oil will come rushing out. If you drain it cold you might want to let it sit with the plug out for a while to get as much out as will drain. Doing it warm let the oil drain down form the engine fairly quickly and also it is a lot easier on you hands temperature wise.
It is a simple job.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Oil change [message #327861 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 08:23 |
jhbridges
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I drain after a 30 - 45 minute 'sit'. The oil is still warm enough to flow quickly, but not so hot the filter burns your hands.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: Oil change [message #327881 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 11:19 |
Scott Nutter
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Jim,
Where are you on your trip? There are plenty of Gmc'ers that have space to help you out for a quick oil change. And we would all be glad to help!
Scott.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil change [message #327883 is a reply to message #327881] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 11:32 |
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ljdavick
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I’ve forgotten what the cautions are regarding the oil filter and cooler gaskets…
I know I have a pack of O-rings just for that purpose, though.
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
> On Jan 6, 2018, at 9:19 AM, Scott Nutter wrote:
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> Jim,
> Where are you on your trip? There are plenty of Gmc'ers that have space to help you out for a quick oil change. And we would all be glad to help!
> Scott.
> --
> Scott Nutter
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi.
> Houston, Texas
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| Re: Oil change [message #327885 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 11:48 |
Jimmy_Bonez
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We're currently just west of Fayetteville. Heading towards San Antonio tomorrow. I need to grab a low profile pan to catch the oil and filter. Appreciate the offers for help. I might need some if I don't have enough down time at the campgrounds or the terrain doesn't permit it. At this point might just get thru our stop in San Antonio and do it after that.
Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis
NH natives
1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda
Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
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| Re: Oil change [message #327893 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 12:40 |
Scott Nutter
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Bummer....
We could of helped you out 100 miles ago..
If needed you could always drive one front tire on a curb to give you an extra 8 inches or so of wiggle room. I don't know how much oil might be trapped because of being out of level, but I would think it would be minimal.
Scott.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil change [message #327896 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 12:59 |
Ken Henderson
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Jim,
Some may disagree, but when running mostly on the highway, long stretches,
like you seem to be doing, 3000 miles seems to me to be an awfully
conservative oil change interval. With almost no cold start/short trip
miles, I wouldn't worry about changing oil at less than 8-10K miles. Fact
is, I'm not even sure I changed mine during our 12,000 mile trip to Alaska
-- certainly didn't more than once. Especially if you're getting
the apparently typical 500-600 miles per quart, which means an "automatic"
oil change every 3000 miles or so.
JWID,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Jim D. wrote:
> So I'm sure people have changed there oil at campsites before but I
> personally have not. My questions are
> Is this frowned upon? Proper cleanup and care will be taken to keep it as
> clean as possible.
> Is it difficult without being able to lift the front end? No ramps and my
> jack broke last week and haven't had time to scrounge up another one.
> I haven't changed the oil in my rig personally yet. I'm capable and have
> all my tools with me just have never done it. Is there anything in the way
> of
> difficulty or specially tools I'll need?
> I have 5 quarts Rotella 10w30 1qt of oil additive and a Wix 51258 filter.
> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated
>
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76 X-Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil change [message #327901 is a reply to message #327896] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 13:55 |
jimk
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My take on the oil, and I'm addressing Sythetic only, is that the syn oil
will not turn acidy like the dyno oil, so you can do like Ken says.
I do have my oild analized frequently to keep track of metel particulets
and specially the Dirt.
Having been in the Air Filter business for over 35 years have taught me
some major importance to the engine air filter.
If your not getting a good seal there, it is ammasing how much large
particulates manage to get through and coat the intake manifoil,intake
valve guides and cylinder walls and rings , act like sand paper. Oil
filters catch in my estamation only 30% of what is circulating .
There is a WIX sales rep coming over next week to pick up the carb fuel
filter to send back to their headqurters for evaluation of the plastic
valve that is set inside of the filter as it is being attacked by the
Ethanal.
What was interesting about the conversation was the percent of Ethnal he
wanted to know.
I am concluding that some things can deteriate if the concentration getss
higher.
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Ken Henderson
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> Jim,
>
> Some may disagree, but when running mostly on the highway, long stretches,
> like you seem to be doing, 3000 miles seems to me to be an awfully
> conservative oil change interval. With almost no cold start/short trip
> miles, I wouldn't worry about changing oil at less than 8-10K miles. Fact
> is, I'm not even sure I changed mine during our 12,000 mile trip to Alaska
> -- certainly didn't more than once. Especially if you're getting
> the apparently typical 500-600 miles per quart, which means an "automatic"
> oil change every 3000 miles or so.
>
> JWID,
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Jim D. wrote:
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>> So I'm sure people have changed there oil at campsites before but I
>> personally have not. My questions are
>> Is this frowned upon? Proper cleanup and care will be taken to keep it
> as
>> clean as possible.
>> Is it difficult without being able to lift the front end? No ramps and my
>> jack broke last week and haven't had time to scrounge up another one.
>> I haven't changed the oil in my rig personally yet. I'm capable and have
>> all my tools with me just have never done it. Is there anything in the
> way
>> of
>> difficulty or specially tools I'll need?
>> I have 5 quarts Rotella 10w30 1qt of oil additive and a Wix 51258
> filter.
>> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated
>>
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| Re: Oil change [message #327905 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 14:25 |
Jimmy_Bonez
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I agree that changing the oil every 3k isn't necessary and adding a quart every 5-600 miles is the norm. I'm right around 5k miles now between changes and we've been dealing with extreme weather changes. We also drive ours around some of the cities we visit so I figured a happy medium would be between 5-6k miles I would change the oil. Plus sometimes you can't always put a time limit on piece of mind.
Jim
Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis
NH natives
1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda
Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil change [message #327909 is a reply to message #327905] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 14:53 |
jimk
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Jim,
I'm assuming your using Syn oil?
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Jim D. wrote:
> I agree that changing the oil every 3k isn't necessary and adding a quart
> every 5-600 miles is the norm. I'm right around 5k miles now between changes
> and we've been dealing with extreme weather changes. We also drive ours
> around some of the cities we visit so I figured a happy medium would be
> between 5-6k miles I would change the oil. Plus sometimes you can't always
> put a time limit on piece of mind.
> Jim
> --
> Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis
> NH natives
> 1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda
> Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
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| Re: Oil change [message #327918 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 17:02 |
JohnL455
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If you are fairly slim no need for jacking. Drain plug from front. Oil filter from side behind right tire. I believe since the number of pounds of fuel burned in our application is about 2x that burned in the Toronado application, the severe duty oil change schedule should be held to. This includes greasing and most importantly INSPECTING things while under there. Really cuts the odds of on road failure if you inspect and correct.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Oil change [message #327939 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sat, 06 January 2018 20:51 |
Jimmy_Bonez
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Drain plug from the front? I thought the drain plug was on the bottom next to the transmission cover. Am I mistaken. I'd take a picture but it's dark out.
Jim DeMellia and Jen Radefeld and our cat Ickis
NH natives
1975 GMC “Palm Beach” ,455, her names Linda
Full time RVers exploring the beautiful and unusual parts of the country.
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| Re: Oil change [message #327962 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sun, 07 January 2018 17:06 |
JohnL455
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You access the drain plug by scooting in from the front. You access the filter by scooting in behind the right front tire
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil change [message #327987 is a reply to message #327981] |
Sun, 07 January 2018 19:48 |
Kingsley Coach
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Get a small flashlight and an oil drain container. You've got oil and tools
so just do it at night....of course I never said this !
Mike in NM
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> A cardboard box works well to allow one to slide in and out.
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 3:06 PM, John R. Lebetski
> wrote:
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>> You access the drain plug by scooting in from the front. You access the
>> filter by scooting in behind the right front tire
>> --
>> John Lebetski
>> Woodstock, IL
>> 77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Oil change [message #327989 is a reply to message #327823] |
Sun, 07 January 2018 20:23 |
Scott Nutter
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Right on Mike!!
A oil change with a bit of adventure!
I like your style!!
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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