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I've heard that various clubs start their ~5 day rallies on a Thursday or Friday in the hopes of getting younger folks (ie, working stiffs) to come to the rally.
Ironically, this makes it much more difficult to get there if you have to plan around limited time off and some distance.

For example, we're about 870 miles away from Tuscon. If we drove 435 miles a day, we'd have to leave Thursday April 5th at the latest, and wouldn't return until late on Friday the 13th at the earliest in order to attend the whole rally.
Not exactly a leisurely pace, and it will use up 7 vacation days.

If the rally ran Monday through Friday or Saturday, we'd have a weekend on either side for actually getting there and back, and
would end up only needing 5 vacation days.

So, what do other folks think? Would having future rallies Monday through Friday be better for working folks?

Karen
1975 26'


Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327721 is a reply to message #327718] Wed, 03 January 2018 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Karen,

Thanks for saying what I have been trying to get across for years - before
I gave up. Having those weekends to travel work a lot better and as you
pointed out, reduce the number of vacation days being used. Another thought
is planning around children's spring break and summer vacations. Little
harder, but might be worth a shot. Teachers have it harder to get time off
during school time.

Thanks again for bringing this point forward.

Fay Curtis
'76 Glenbrook
Kneeland, CA near the edge of nowhere

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:14 PM, KB wrote:

> I've heard that various clubs start their ~5 day rallies on a Thursday or
> Friday in the hopes of getting younger folks (ie, working stiffs) to come to
> the rally.
> Ironically, this makes it much more difficult to get there if you have to
> plan around limited time off and some distance.
>
> For example, we're about 870 miles away from Tuscon. If we drove 435
> miles a day, we'd have to leave Thursday April 5th at the latest, and
> wouldn't
> return until late on Friday the 13th at the earliest in order to attend
> the whole rally.
> Not exactly a leisurely pace, and it will use up 7 vacation days.
>
> If the rally ran Monday through Friday or Saturday, we'd have a weekend on
> either side for actually getting there and back, and
> would end up only needing 5 vacation days.
>
> So, what do other folks think? Would having future rallies Monday
> through Friday be better for working folks?
>
> Karen
> 1975 26'
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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327722 is a reply to message #327718] Wed, 03 January 2018 18:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Karen
Having managed the GMCM conventions for several years I can tell you that starting on Thursday was NOT an effort to get younger people to come to the conventions.

Starting on a Thursday usually makes it possible to even reserve a site. That leaves a Fri, Sat and Sunday at the end of our stay available for the campground to rent it out to another group
that wants to have a weekend rally usually starting on a Friday.

Retired people don’t normally care when it starts.
I agree that the travel time is not good for a working person.
That is why I didn’t start going to rallies until I was retired (however it helped that I retired at age 55).

There are other clubs that like to run from Friday to some time after the weekend.
If we had a rally Monday through Friday or Saturday that would take up two long weekends for the campground and many campground owners would not book us because they would loose the income from another
group. However if you can find a campground that would do those dates for us and that would have the other things we need for our convention such as full hookups, perhaps 200 spaces and buildings for our meals and seminars I am sure that Kim Weeks would be glad to work with you to change dates to accommodate you but it is not an easy task to find campgrounds that will meet our needs and which will be that flexible on dates.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

> On Jan 3, 2018, at 5:14 PM, KB wrote:
>
> I've heard that various clubs start their ~5 day rallies on a Thursday or Friday in the hopes of getting younger folks (ie, working stiffs) to come to
> the rally.
> Ironically, this makes it much more difficult to get there if you have to plan around limited time off and some distance.
>
> For example, we're about 870 miles away from Tuscon. If we drove 435 miles a day, we'd have to leave Thursday April 5th at the latest, and wouldn't
> return until late on Friday the 13th at the earliest in order to attend the whole rally.
> Not exactly a leisurely pace, and it will use up 7 vacation days.
>
> If the rally ran Monday through Friday or Saturday, we'd have a weekend on either side for actually getting there and back, and
> would end up only needing 5 vacation days.
>
> So, what do other folks think? Would having future rallies Monday through Friday be better for working folks?
>
> Karen
> 1975 26'
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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327723 is a reply to message #327721] Wed, 03 January 2018 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good points Karen. If I remember correctly, GMCMI conventions are normally seven day events and used to run from Saturday to the following Friday. I have been to two of them (Pueblo at almost 800 miles from home, and Shawnee, almost 1000 miles). Each required me to take an extra day or two off. I usually don't have a problem with this as I am self employed, but it takes a little extra planning for my wife.

I believe the reason for the schedule shift was to accommodate working people who want to attend the weekend portion of the event. I don't know how successful that effort was, but maybe it could be revisited if necessary. We have let our Western States membership lapse for the very reason you have cited. We just haven't been able to attend their rallies at their scheduled locations and times.

The alternative, of course, is to attend as much as the rally as your work schedule allows. Not the ideal solution, but better than missing the whole thing. I think there are ways to do that without having to pay the entire rally fee.


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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327726 is a reply to message #327723] Wed, 03 January 2018 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl
If you read the reply that I sent to Karen you can see that the reason for starting on a
Thursday (what you call a schedule shift) was not to accommodate working people who want to attend the weekend portion.

If was done to allow us to basically find sites that would accommodate us. Over the years as camping became more popular it is getting harder to find sites that meet our requirements.
We like to stay in sites that have many amenities such as full hookups, meeting rooms, etc. It has gotten a little easier as our fall conventions used to be attended by about 250 GMCs.
Now it is more like 150-200. On the GMCMI site there is a Site Selection Form that you can download and submit potential sites to our Convention Manager (Kim Weeks). This form is at http://www.gmcmi.com/site-selection-form/
If you read the form you will see how difficult it is to find sites that really can meet our needs.

If your or Karen or others can find a site that will meet our needs as outlined on the Site Selection form and that will also allow us to book a Monday to Saturday convention I am sure that Kim would be more than willing to make that change.

We are always looking for suggestions on sites that we should use. Unfortunately we get very little help from the members in suggesting sites that meet our needs. It is a difficult task that takes a lot of Kim’s time.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO


> On Jan 3, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>
> Good points Karen. If I remember correctly, GMCMI conventions are normally seven day events and used to run from Saturday to the following Friday. I
> have been to two of them (Pueblo at almost 800 miles from home, and Shawnee, almost 1000 miles). Each required me to take an extra day or two off. I
> usually don't have a problem with this as I am self employed, but it takes a little extra planning for my wife.
>
> I believe the reason for the schedule shift was to accommodate working people who want to attend the weekend portion of the event. I don't know how
> successful that effort was, but maybe it could be revisited if necessary. We have let our Western States membership lapse for the very reason you
> have cited. We just haven't been able to attend their rallies at their scheduled locations and times.
>
> The alternative, of course, is to attend as much as the rally as your work schedule allows. Not the ideal solution, but better than missing the whole
> thing. I think there are ways to do that without having to pay the entire rally fee.
> --
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> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327730 is a reply to message #327726] Wed, 03 January 2018 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I take your point Emery. If we had people arrive on Monday and ran through the following Friday or Saturday, that would only use one weekend of the park as far as I can tell (aside from early arrivals). We'll have to try it in future and see if it would work with the venues we find. Doesn't hurt to ask.

thanks,
Karen
1975 26'
Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327732 is a reply to message #327726] Wed, 03 January 2018 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emery,

That absolutely makes sense. I had thought I'd read somewhere the change was for the reasons I stated. I understand the logistical problems of scheduling an event of this size must be extremely difficult. As a working couple, I really appreciate what people like you and Kim do to make these things happen, and wish I had more time to help.

I am also very happy to live in the town where the next GMCMI will be held. In a few years, when we are retired, the location will not be nearly as much of an issue to us and we can hopefully attend more of these events.


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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327733 is a reply to message #327732] Wed, 03 January 2018 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Having sat on the Board for many years, I can attest others that the Board
and the officers are always seeking ways to try to make it more convienent
for ALL the members to attend.
It is always refreshing to receive feedback and weigh how we can do better.
Should people do not care about paying more for the convention, lot of
things can be done, but when it comes down to cost, that does create an
issue.
People like Fred Hudspeth and Emery Stora bring depth to our organization
as I have been there to see first handed their contribution.

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

> Emery,
>
> That absolutely makes sense. I had thought I'd read somewhere the change
> was for the reasons I stated. I understand the logistical problems of
> scheduling an event of this size must be extremely difficult. As a
> working couple, I really appreciate what people like you and Kim do to make
> these
> things happen, and wish I had more time to help.
>
> I am also very happy to live in the town where the next GMCMI will be
> held. In a few years, when we are retired, the location will not be nearly
> as
> much of an issue to us and we can hopefully attend more of these events.
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327735 is a reply to message #327733] Thu, 04 January 2018 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

I agree 100%!

Now all the Board needs to do is figure out how to shrink the USA to make it easier for people from all the regions to attend the
conventions!

;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s?

Having sat on the Board for many years, I can attest others that the Board and the officers are always seeking ways to try to make
it more convienent for ALL the members to attend. It is always refreshing to receive feedback and weigh how we can do better. Should
people do not care about paying more for the convention, lot of things can be done, but when it comes down to cost, that does create
an issue. People like Fred Hudspeth and Emery Stora bring depth to our organization as I have been there to see first handed their
contribution.

Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA


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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327740 is a reply to message #327726] Thu, 04 January 2018 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emery,

Having in the past I spent time scheduling rallies for the GMC Tidewater
Crabs and the GMC Sunshine Statesmen, I don't see how you, Kim and the Board
successful come up with the great rally sites that you do. Now that the economy
has improved and people are returning to the camp facilities, campgrounds with
any amenities are booked up and really don't care to book rallies because of the
administrative nightmares and loss of revenue on sites for days before and after
rallies. Just this RV season, we have had Encore break two contracts just weeks before
our scheduled rallies. In Feb. we had to cancel than month's rally. Our only options
are FMCA's regional rally (considered by some GMCers to be too expensive and a hassle
for what they offer). A new option is a rally put on by the TIN CAN TOURISTS, which
we are recommending to our membership. Finding a decent campground that will set aside
sites for 20 to up to 200 campers is not as EZ as people think.

jim Galbavy
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Lake Mary, Fl


Re: Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327745 is a reply to message #327718] Thu, 04 January 2018 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, I do not have any fast and easy answer.

After years of scheduling meetings, events, regattas, gams, rendezvous, trail rides, and RV rallies, I can very faithfully promise you that there is no easy answer.

There is actually a chapter that we started out as members of but had to drop until we were both finally retired because the rally schedule prohibited working owner from making it to most.

This is also why the South East Michigan and Northern Ohio (SEMNO) GMC Owners Network luncheons are on a Saturday. Others can be other days, but I was and am working to get the younger (and hopefully employed) owners to come and join us. We have had moderate success.

When we attended our first international, it was actually a joint rally and the local headed up the first days. This was difficult for us to attend. We also drove 1108 miles in one day (meaning a 24 hour period) to get to our first spring rally. That made us decide to not do that again until we were both retired.

I have to commend Kim for what she does, but we are going to miss this spring even if my engine is done because we are expecting a granddaughter to arrive about then and someone wants to be nearby when that happens.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327746 is a reply to message #327745] Thu, 04 January 2018 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's the scoop on rally dates. There are many places to see the GMCMH Community Calendar:

GMCMI maintains a google calendar on the website at http://www.gmcmi.com/gmc-calendar/, pins the current month on each of the face book pages (https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagegmcmotorhomes/ and https://www.facebook.com/GMCMI/) with a link to the website calendar, a list of the two upcoming months are in the monthly "GMCMI eNews" with the calendar website link, PLUS a calendar listings on the inside back page of the "GMC Vintage RVing" magazine.These calendars are maintained by reviewing each GMCMH chapter website quarterly, along with emails received from the individual chapters.
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> On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
>
> No, I do not have any fast and easy answer.
>
> After years of scheduling meetings, events, regattas, gams, rendezvous, trail rides, and RV rallies, I can very faithfully promise you that there is
> no easy answer.
>
> There is actually a chapter that we started out as members of but had to drop until we were both finally retired because the rally schedule prohibited
> working owner from making it to most.
>
> This is also why the South East Michigan and Northern Ohio (SEMNO) GMC Owners Network luncheons are on a Saturday. Others can be other days, but I
> was and am working to get the younger (and hopefully employed) owners to come and join us. We have had moderate success.
>
> When we attended our first international, it was actually a joint rally and the local headed up the first days. This was difficult for us to attend.
> We also drove 1108 miles in one day (meaning a 24 hour period) to get to our first spring rally. That made us decide to not do that again until we
> were both retired.
>
> I have to commend Kim for what she does, but we are going to miss this spring even if my engine is done because we are expecting a granddaughter to
> arrive about then and someone wants to be nearby when that happens.
>
> Matt
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Re: Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327750 is a reply to message #327718] Thu, 04 January 2018 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks to ALL who put in the time and effort to coordinate these rally's.
What a logistical nightmare it must be. A job I would not want.......

Keep up the good work!

This working dummy does not mind burning a few days of sick leave to attend....that's my solution.


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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327752 is a reply to message #327732] Thu, 04 January 2018 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've seen more than one discussion that basically went "we've always done it that way" or "I dunno, but in the past they've been held on these days, so let's do it that way".

Stuff that makes sense for 200+ coaches may not apply to smaller groups. It wouldn't hurt to at least try and get ideal dates at target sites and bend the dates if we have to rather than just assume up front that it's impossible to get what we want.

Just my .02.

Karen
1975 26'
Re: Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327753 is a reply to message #327750] Thu, 04 January 2018 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scott Nutter wrote on Thu, 04 January 2018 09:08


This working dummy does not mind burning a few days of sick leave to attend....that's my solution.


A lot of folks don't have the option of burning extra days.

Karen
1975 26'

Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327755 is a reply to message #327746] Thu, 04 January 2018 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To Jaye H.:
Thanks Jaye - good info!
Mike/The Corvair a holic

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> On Jan 4, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Jeanette Hodges wrote:
>
> Here's the scoop on rally dates. There are many places to see the GMCMH Community Calendar:
>
> GMCMI maintains a google calendar on the website at http://www.gmcmi.com/gmc-calendar/, pins the current month on each of the face book pages (https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagegmcmotorhomes/ and https://www.facebook.com/GMCMI/) with a link to the website calendar, a list of the two upcoming months are in the monthly "GMCMI eNews" with the calendar website link, PLUS a calendar listings on the inside back page of the "GMC Vintage RVing" magazine.These calendars are maintained by reviewing each GMCMH chapter website quarterly, along with emails received from the individual chapters.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
>>
>> No, I do not have any fast and easy answer.
>>
>> After years of scheduling meetings, events, regattas, gams, rendezvous, trail rides, and RV rallies, I can very faithfully promise you that there is
>> no easy answer.
>>
>> There is actually a chapter that we started out as members of but had to drop until we were both finally retired because the rally schedule prohibited
>> working owner from making it to most.
>>
>> This is also why the South East Michigan and Northern Ohio (SEMNO) GMC Owners Network luncheons are on a Saturday. Others can be other days, but I
>> was and am working to get the younger (and hopefully employed) owners to come and join us. We have had moderate success.
>>
>> When we attended our first international, it was actually a joint rally and the local headed up the first days. This was difficult for us to attend.
>> We also drove 1108 miles in one day (meaning a 24 hour period) to get to our first spring rally. That made us decide to not do that again until we
>> were both retired.
>>
>> I have to commend Kim for what she does, but we are going to miss this spring even if my engine is done because we are expecting a granddaughter to
>> arrive about then and someone wants to be nearby when that happens.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
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>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327772 is a reply to message #327752] Thu, 04 January 2018 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Instead of expecting someone else to do it, why not volunteer and go on the Board
and YOU try to make a difference?

jim Galbavy
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Re: Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327775 is a reply to message #327718] Thu, 04 January 2018 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Johnny Bridges is currently offline  Johnny Bridges   United States
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When there's a rally close to a show site I usually do a day or two.

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KB is currently offline  KB   United States
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Jim Galbavy wrote on Thu, 04 January 2018 12:59
Instead of expecting someone else to do it, why not volunteer and go on the Board
and YOU try to make a difference?


No need to be offensive.

My purpose here is to find out *why* it's being done (thanks Emery), and *if* it's an issue for others (it is).
This discussion also helps raise the idea to the GMCMI board members who read the forum (several do), but GMCMI very rarely holds a rally even remotely close to our area.

This is also an issue for local groups, which are much smaller and usually more flexible.
Now that I know it's not just us, I can approach the clubs of which I'm a member, and on whose boards I'm much more likely to serve.

Our discussion here may also alert folks on the forum who are in other groups that they might want to consider a change.
It's up to them to decide, but hopefully they will at least think twice about "We've always done it that way."

Karen
1975 26'


Re: [GMCnet] Rallies: what days of the week are best for people with J.O.B.s? [message #327781 is a reply to message #327723] Thu, 04 January 2018 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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It just occurred to me that some of you might not be aware of and one thing that has not been mentioned here is that when GMCMI uses a convention site we tie it up for a lot more than the 6 days of our convention.
For example the Tuscon convention will be held from Friday Apr. 6 to Thursday April 12. However members always want to come in early so we allow them to come in on Thursday April 5 even though we might still be setting up things..
In addition we have to unpack our crates and do a lot of work to get things ready for our arriving GMCers. So a crew of about 8 members come in on the Sun or Mon before to set things up. That ties the buildings up for an extra 3 or 4 days.
We also have to pack everything up after the convention so that takes another day. So we are using the main building from say Monday to the second Friday for a total of 12 days.
Now, how much harder does that make it to find campgrounds willing to tie up their facilities for that long? That also makes it even harder to start a rally on a Monday as some would like as we would be using the prior weekend to set up which would mean the campground would loose two weekends of their season for our 6 day convention.

Emery Stora
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Frederick



> On Jan 3, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>
> Good points Karen. If I remember correctly, GMCMI conventions are normally seven day events and used to run from Saturday to the following Friday. I
> have been to two of them (Pueblo at almost 800 miles from home, and Shawnee, almost 1000 miles). Each required me to take an extra day or two off. I
> usually don't have a problem with this as I am self employed, but it takes a little extra planning for my wife.
>
> I believe the reason for the schedule shift was to accommodate working people who want to attend the weekend portion of the event. I don't know how
> successful that effort was, but maybe it could be revisited if necessary. We have let our Western States membership lapse for the very reason you
> have cited. We just haven't been able to attend their rallies at their scheduled locations and times.
>
> The alternative, of course, is to attend as much as the rally as your work schedule allows. Not the ideal solution, but better than missing the whole
> thing. I think there are ways to do that without having to pay the entire rally fee.
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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