Re: [GMCnet] Oil Type Question Moble 1....High Milage [message #327164] |
Sat, 16 December 2017 01:41 |
BobDunahugh
Messages: 2465 Registered: October 2010 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
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Matt has some great points to think about. Our engines are very dirty engines. Nothing like the modern ones now. And just need frequent oil changes as compared to newer engines. Some newer style engines use 0-20 oils. Syn's are great for these clean engines. With ours. 3,000 miles of use has pretty much ended the useful capacity of the oil filter. As at that point. Most oil is going to the oil filter bypass valve. Thus very little. If any oil is getting filtered. And the higher the miles on your Olds engine. The even shorter the life of your filter. You can reduce oil contamination some by installing EFI. The very best thing you can do to extend the life of our engines. Is simple drain the trash that's built up in our engines at 2500 to 3000 miles. Mineral oils can take temps to around 310 degrees as I recall. Syn's are higher. So what. Your engine is toast at 250 degrees. Syn's can be left in for more miles. But the filter should still be changed at the 2500, to 3000 range for our engines. I have a 96 Astro that's coming up on 300,000 miles with mineral oils used. And I never have had to add oil between changes. Would Syn's done better? All oils are to be change once a year. How many miles do you put on your GMC each year? Syn's for more modern engines. Have at it. In my GMC. I'll stay with the diesel blended 10W30 with 1800 PPM that I use. That's my 2 cents worth. You need to do what feals right for you. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] Oil Type Question Moble 1....High Milage [message #327184 is a reply to message #327164] |
Sat, 16 December 2017 16:24 |
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Matt Colie
Messages: 8547 Registered: March 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan
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BobDunahugh wrote on Sat, 16 December 2017 02:41Matt has some great points to think about. Our engines are very dirty engines. Nothing like the modern ones now. And just need frequent oil changes as compared to newer engines. Some newer style engines use 0-20 oils. Syn's are great for these clean engines. With ours. 3,000 miles of use has pretty much ended the useful capacity of the oil filter. As at that point. Most oil is going to the oil filter bypass valve. Thus very little. If any oil is getting filtered. And the higher the miles on your Olds engine. The even shorter the life of your filter. You can reduce oil contamination some by installing EFI. The very best thing you can do to extend the life of our engines. Is simple drain the trash that's built up in our engines at 2500 to 3000 miles.
Mineral oils can take temps to around 310 degrees as I recall.
Syn's are higher. So what. Your engine is toast at 250 degrees. Syn's can be left in for more miles. But the filter should still be changed at the 2500, to 3000 range for our engines. I have a 96 Astro that's coming up on 300,000 miles with mineral oils used. And I never have had to add oil between changes. Would Syn's done better? All oils are to be change once a year. How many miles do you put on your GMC each year? Syn's for more modern engines. Have at it. In my GMC. I'll stay with the diesel blended 10W30 with 1800 PPM that I use. That's my 2 cents worth. You need to do what feals right for you. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
Bob,
That line is slightly in error.
Any and all conventional motor oils disassociate at 305°F. This is not a Time/Temperature effect. When that molecule of oil get heated to 305, it ceases to be oil.
Problem: Lube oil cools the underside of piston crowns. If the coolant is 250°F and it is a typical pass car (ours are pretty much), that hot oil will be real close to or over the jacket water and get sprayed under a piston crown. What is the chance that it stays below that 305 number?
That is where the real problem with a 250°F engine arises.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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