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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327031 is a reply to message #326938] Mon, 11 December 2017 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cbryan   United States
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Rick, Emery, and Justin,

With respect to the email list and forum discussion about which is better, or what would be better:

I guess I have just gotten 'used to' the forum and it is pretty easy for me to get around, particularly if I add it to my home page list or whatever you call pages opened automatically when opening the browser. My usual oversight, which causes heartburn to others on the forum, is replying without quoting what message I am replying to, as on the email list, the thread isn't intact, so far as I have been told a couple of times with some directness. I'm too "set in my ways" to get efficient on quoting the parts of the discussion. It seems like a monumental aggravation to me. (I have to be sure to avoid quoting too much which "wastes bandwidth", another thing to get corrected on.) A monumental aggravation, it really isn't, except in my mind. And, it adds to the learning curve of the forum, and might inhibit new folks from posting. On a number of unfortunate occasions, I have seen new posters "jumped on" because of some thing they didn't understand or have the experience to avoid. We enjoy helping other owners so much, but on rare occasion, the new posters don't get a warm reception. ("Get a signature file, fellow!") We don't have a single owner to lose. Hey, maybe it would be a good thing to put something on top of the forum page relating to etiquette on posting! Something like Major Geeks post on their forum.

My main concern is not of ease of use, but of longevity of the archives. There is an enormous, irreplaceable amount of information on our hobby that is maintained by very good people. I understand that that information in previous years has been lost. And, if we lost the picture archive, it would be a very sad day for us. This information alone is in large part what makes these GMC motorhomes desirable. Imagine, you can get a stylish, durable, comfortable rig for 1/10 the cost of a newer one, and while you experience problems, you are not as hostage to repair people on the road who are mostly honest, but must make money every day, sometimes a lot of money. And, the problems you experience, from tire replacement to engine rebuilding are about 20 - 25% as costly as newer rig repairs for the most part. And, the best thing is the friendly experts here on the forum who put themselves out to help others. And, you can visit them at rallys across this land and actually elsewhere on the globe.

So, I am extremely happy because this forum is durable. That is the most important thing for me. I appreciate the comments by all three of you, and have profited much by your willingness to share your knowledge. Thank you so much.

Carey


Carey from Ennis, Texas 78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.

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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327033 is a reply to message #327031] Mon, 11 December 2017 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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I have never voiced an opinion as to which is better.
I was only objecting to being called “too set in my ways”.

Emery Stora

> On Dec 11, 2017, at 9:12 PM, Carey Bryan wrote:
>
> Rick, Emery, and Justin,
>
> With respect to the email list and forum discussion about which is better, or what would be better:
>
> I guess I have just gotten 'used to' the forum and it is pretty easy for me to get around, particularly if I add it to my home page list or whatever
> you call pages opened automatically when open the browser. My usual oversight, which causes heartburn to others on the forum, is replying without
> quoting what message I am replying to, as on the email list, the thread isn't intact, so far as I have been told a couple of times with some
> directness. I'm too "set in my ways" to get efficient on quoting the parts of the discussion. It seems like a monumental aggravation to me. (I have
> to be sure to avoid quoting too much which "wastes bandwidth", another thing to get corrected on.) A monumental aggravation, it really isn't, except
> in my mind. And, it adds to the learning curve of the forum, and might inhibit new folks from posting. On a number of unfortunate occasions, I have
> seen new posters "jumped on" because of some thing they didn't understand or have the experience to avoid. We enjoy helping other owners so much, but
> on rare occasion, the new posters don't get a warm reception. ("Get a signature file, fellow!") We don't have a single owner to lose. Hey, maybe it
> would be a good thing to put something on top of the forum page relating to etiquette on posting! Something like Major Geeks post on their forum.
>
> My main concern is not of ease of use, but of longevity of the archives. There is an enormous, irreplaceable amount of information on our hobby that
> is maintained by very good people. I understand that that information in previous years has been lost. And, if we lost the picture archive, it would
> be a very sad day for us. This information alone is in large part what makes these GMC motorhomes desirable. Imagine, you can get a stylish, durable,
> comfortable rig for 1/10 the cost of a newer one, and while you experience problems, you are not as hostage to repair people on the road who are
> mostly honest, but must make money every day, sometimes a lot of money. And, the problems you experience, from tire replacement to engine rebuilding
> are about 20 - 25% as costly as newer rig repairs for the most part. And, the best thing is the friendly experts here on the forum who put themselves
> out to help others. And, you can visit them at rallys across this land and actually elsewhere on the globe.
>
> So, I am extremely happy because this forum is durable. That is the most important thing for me. I appreciate the comments by all three of you, and
> have profited much by your willingness to share your knowledge. Thank you so much.
>
> Carey
> --
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> 78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327036 is a reply to message #326955] Tue, 12 December 2017 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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I've explored the FUDforum website and indeed there's no support for
Tapatalk. If anyone has created a template for mobile application, I
couldn't find evidence of it. In fact, not much happening over there in
FUDland.

And playing with the forum again this evening on my iPhone confirmed past
experience. Zoom in to push a button, zoom out to see the whole massage,
typing zooms in and you can't see the whole text entry box, zoom in to
increase text size so it's readable and then have to scroll laterally to
read each line, turn sideways to type a message and the forum header covers
the whole visible screen above the keyboard, etc, etc. I'm sorry, but on an
iPhone it is unusable. VBulletin, which is barely more up-to-date than
FUDforum, at least has a mobile skin.

FUDforum is designed for computer screens and mouse pointers, period.

I could just ignore the standard politeness of trimming quotes, but I seem
to be the only one who wants to do it. A couple of my posts have been
rejected because they exceeded the mail list size limit, just because of
the whole trail of quotes (complete with the verbose mail list signature
repeated six times, plus everyone's personal sig, some of which are frankly
longer than they need to be).

(Let me interrupt my rant with a mini rant: Sigs that list all one's coach
improvements make the forum and the mail archive impossible to search,
because the sigs appear in the search results. Wanna know about Manny's
one-ton conversion? You'll get every post where a poster listed it in their
sig in the results. Findings posts that actually talk about it is finding a
needle in a haystack. Ask me how I know.)

If you guys want to know why I don't post as much as I used to, this is
part of it (but not all of it--a lot of it really is just workload and not
at all the fault of the forum--I don't want to overstate my rant). I've
read every message posted to GMCnet this year since April, and have
determined to keep up, but having to spend more time trimming quotes than
it takes to thumb six paragraphs is FRUSTRATING. I would like to respond
more often, but I have not found a productive and efficient way to do it
using an iPhone.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/other/p64184-what-fudforum-looks-like-on-an-iphone.html

(By the way #2: ever tried to create an album on the photo site using an
iPhone? Not happenin'. You can assign uploads to an existing album, but
there is no option in the mobile skin to create an album. But at least it
has a mobile skin.)

It's not about inertia, but speaking of that, we can't assume what used to
work always will. It's about what will continue to work in changing
software environments. Browsers are getting more picky and difficult. One
day FUDforum will no longer work, and the volunteers who manage it will
lose interest and move on to other projects. It will have to render in
HTML5 (or whatever) and will have to manage encryption certificates, which
it does not now do. One look in the FUDforum support forum will show that
activity is way down in the last several years. Email systems are already
filtering spam so aggressively that I'm having trouble with my own emails
being blocked when sent by imap/pop servers to, for example, some AOL
addresses. Whole domains are being blacklisted these days on services like
StopForumSpam. I get GMCnet email reliably because I park it in the Gmail
cloud, and use a Google app to access it.

Billy, Patrick, and Batman do and have done an enormous amount of work to
set these up, but there needs to be some software succession planning, or
the unceasing tides may drown all that work.

Rick "okay, sorry about that: rant over" Denney

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:27 PM Richard Denney wrote:

> Thanks, but it's not the mail account I am wondering about, but rather a
> standalone mail app well-integrated with Gmail that allows quick editing of
> the quoted sections, and that lets me keep up with GMCnet a minute or two
> at a time.
>
> (And maybe a quick exploration of whether the forum software will support
> Tapatalk.)
>
> Rick "curious about that vast link in the GMCnet sig" Denney
>

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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327037 is a reply to message #327036] Tue, 12 December 2017 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[cutting rant]

I just looked at the forum with my mobile phone and it was usable to go
around and create message. No problem viewing anything. Granted, I do
not own an iPhone but just a cheap chinese-labeled phone.

I am always using eMail. Signature files are setup for each account that
I use, so that the signature looks different whether I post for
business, pleasure or GMC. Maybe setting up multiple accounts on your
iPhone will give you this ability as well. Otherwise, maybe Outlook
exists for iPhone and you can do it there.

Regarding technology changing and becoming obsolete, and browsers being
more picky about things: I doubt that eMail will not be available for
the rest of my life, which will extent into the 22nd millennium easily.
Browsers changing is true, but they change for the better, with being
much more standard compliant than they used to be. These days it is much
easier to produce a website that looks good on all browsers than it was
between the time I created the first website for semiconductor company
in 1993 to the beginning of the 2000s when I stopped doing this tedious
task.

In my humble opinion, mobile devices are great for consuming textual
information, but not so much for creating textual content. It works, but
not nice. For creating textual content, nothing beats a real keyboard.
This might change one day with better speech-recognition, but even with
that you need a quiet place.

At least *I* do not want to compose my GMCnet messages sitting in
crowded commuter train talking to my mobile :-)

If anyone has issues with the current state of affairs, why don't you
try to find a system that provides the same functionality that exists
nowadays, ie. usable from browser and email, while adding some better UI
for the browser.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327039 is a reply to message #327037] Tue, 12 December 2017 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Apologies then Emory, it wasn't meant in a derogatory way. Just meant that those that use the email list are pretty die hard in support of it in spite of changing times.

I've considered on many occasions starting a modern forum for this group, but in the end I imagine it would piss so many people off in the process that at least half of the users with any real knowledge wouldn't ever log on which would make it an exercise in futility.

And there are so many here opposed to a forum only interface that this place likely won't make the change, meaning eventually everything will go over to Facebook. Which sucks for everyone because it's just not setup for forum type interactions.


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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327040 is a reply to message #327039] Tue, 12 December 2017 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 12. Dezember 2017 14:35:09 MEZ schrieb Justin Brady :
> Just meant
> that those that use the email list are pretty die hard in support of it
> in spite
> of changing times.

Sometimes old stuff just works better for some. Like a 40y/o motorhome working better than a 2y/o diesel pusher ;-)

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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327041 is a reply to message #327037] Tue, 12 December 2017 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 2:16 AM Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC <
posde@theinternet.de> wrote:

> [cutting rant]


Good idea!

>
> In my humble opinion, mobile devices are great for consuming textual
> information, but not so much for creating textual content. It works, but
> not nice.


Agreed, but it's the only choice. I'm just trying to optimize it to the
extent possible, and I think the email app I'm using doesn't do that.

>
> If anyone has issues with the current state of affairs, why don't you
> try to find a system that provides the same functionality that exists
> nowadays, ie. usable from browser and email, while adding some better UI
> for the browser.


Exactly why I started this thread. I've participated in GMCnet for 14
years--the last thing I want to do is change its nature to undermine the
way people currently approach it. My situation has changed, and I need to
make it work with the tools at hand. And I think the current structure may
also need to change with technology, at some point, just to be sustainable.

Rick "who has posted thousands of messages from an iPhone on several
Tapatalk-equipped forums, for example" Denney

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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327044 is a reply to message #327039] Tue, 12 December 2017 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SONICJK wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 08:35
<snip>
And there are so many here opposed to a forum only interface that this place likely won't make the change, meaning eventually everything will go over to Facebook. Which sucks for everyone because it's just not setup for forum type interactions.

Jason,

This is why I keep urging those on FB to come over here. Not only is it because I sometimes write page-long answers, but also because those that know much more about GMCs don't read or write there.

Yes, and try to locate an old (like last week) article on FB - Not Happinin Jack.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327045 is a reply to message #327036] Tue, 12 December 2017 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard Denney wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 03:06
<snip>
Let me interrupt my rant with a mini rant: Sigs that list all one's coach improvements make the forum and the mail archive impossible to search,
because the sigs appear in the search results. Wanna know about Manny's one-ton conversion? You'll get every post where a poster listed it in their sig in the results. Findings posts that actually talk about it is finding a needle in a haystack. Ask me how I know.

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Rick,

It is unfortunate you don't like the major mods in the sigfile, but it is a great way to know who to either respond to or ignore. I encourage it so I don't have to even think about responding to an owner with handling, steering or braking problems when he has a Manny 1-ton. That is simply because I have zero experience with that, but if he has a stock coach, maybe I can be a help. There seem to still be many that do not understand that the difference between years and models can be significant. There is a friend's parts coach next to my barn. It has very few parts that I could actually use. It is a '78-26 and mine (like yours) is a '73-23.

I do encourage new members to include a real name, coach specifics that might matter like at least the year and model and geographic reference. With some this has been a big help.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327046 is a reply to message #327029] Tue, 12 December 2017 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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johnd01 wrote on Mon, 11 December 2017 22:00
Is there a forum interface for the mail list?
I like using forums and have used them extensively.
Is there a custom signature that is only used on the mail list?
I do not mind having my GMC information in my GMC list email but I do not want to have it in all my email.
--
*John Phillips*

John,

Yes, there is and it works very well.

About half here use each. I may be one of the few that uses both, but I find the forum easier to track threads.

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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327052 is a reply to message #326938] Tue, 12 December 2017 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Rick
I use Gmails interface quite frequently on my Android (Galaxy S6) and am
able to highlight whole sections of text to be cut from a reply. It seems
to me that you might consider a new phone or just a device for email. I
find the Samsung Galaxys very accommodating. Sometimes I wish I had a
Galaxy Tab series but just can't imagine holding that biggo 9 x 6 slab up
to my head to use the phone. :-)

bdub

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Richard Denney wrote:

> My life is such that participating in GMCnet requires doing it on an
> iPhone. Im doing it at the back of a classroom while my co-instructor is
> teaching, or standing in line at the airport, or while having dinner in
> some distant burg.
>
> I cannot do it on my government computer, which takes too long to fire up
> anyway. I traveled 40 weeks last year, and only two of them with my own
> laptop (Ken knows which two weeks those were). My elbows are already
> falling apart--I'm not carrying two laptops :)
>
> But I also have to keep GMCnet separate from my regular personal email. So
> I have an email address that I only use with a few mail lists, including
> GMCnet. (It must be said that the forum does not have an effective iOS
> user interface.)
>
> I have been using Google's Inbox app, but it makes it extremely tedious to
> trim long quotes. The Gmail app is worse--it's why I went to Inbox in the
> first place. IOS Mail is much worse, and forces me to use a different
> outgoing server.
>
> Does anyone know of good mail app for iOS that allows one to trim quotes by
> selecting text rather than doing it one character at a time? Using the
> selection tool, Inbox selects all of the quoted text or none of it. I have
> given up on replying to many threads because I didn't have time to wait for
> that software to let me delete through 1000 characters of nested quotes to
> leave just the one sentence I'm responding to.
>
> An alternative would be for Billy to see if there is Tapatalk support in
> the forum software.
>
> It also might be easier to attract Facebook GMCers if we can identify or
> construct an easier way to use GMCnet on an iPhone.
>
> Rick "hopefully an old enough hand not to be seen as trying to undermine
> traditional mail list users" Denney
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327058 is a reply to message #327052] Tue, 12 December 2017 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Billy,

Maybe it's the iOS, but I can select and cut whole sections of text in
other iOS apps, just not either of the apps put out by Google (and I have
both GMail and Inbox). Inbox was fractionally better, which is why I went
to it. I think part of it is the line they draw down the left to show the
quote--selections that cross that line go haywire. Sometimes it works but
usually it doesn't.

I'm utterly unable to select and delete any part of the below quote, for
example. Any attempt to select part of it selects all of it, and any
attempt to then deselect part of it deselects all of it.

Although, I did just postulate a theory based on having written the above,
and it works. I added a line break in the quoted section that made a gap in
the line running down the left edge. I was then able to select what was
below it. That might be the workaround I was seeking.

Google is even more opaque in responding to requests or acknowledging
faults than is Apple. I'm happy to believe that some software geek at
Google thinks Apple does it wrong and won't work around it, and the geek at
Apple thinks likewise.

But I have too many apps I use on the iPhone to change at this point, not
least my government email app, which is unavailable on the less secure
alternative platforms.

Rick "who may have just solved the problem adequately" Denney


On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:00 AM Billy Massey wrote:

> Hi Rick
> I use Gmails interface quite frequently on my Android (Galaxy S6) and am
> able to highlight whole sections of text to be cut from a reply. It seems
> to me that you might consider a new phone or just a device for email. I
> find the Samsung Galaxys very accommodating. Sometimes I wish I had a
> Galaxy Tab series but just can't imagine holding that biggo 9 x 6 slab up
> to my head to use the phone. :-)
>
> bdub
>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327066 is a reply to message #327058] Wed, 13 December 2017 06:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rick,
What is preventing you from using the Apple mail app that comes with every iPhone?

This is what I use and editing is straight forward. It allows gmail access with none of the editing problems you've mentioned.


Les Burt
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> On Dec 12, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Richard Denney wrote:
>
> Billy,
>
> Maybe it's the iOS, but I can select and cut whole sections of text in
> other iOS apps, just not either of the apps put out by Google (and I have
> both GMail and Inbox). Inbox was fractionally better, which is why I went
> to it. I think part of it is the line they draw down the left to show the
> quote--selections that cross that line go haywire. Sometimes it works but
> usually it doesn't.
>
> I'm utterly unable to select and delete any part of the below quote, for
> example. Any attempt to select part of it selects all of it, and any
> attempt to then deselect part of it deselects all of it.
>
> Although, I did just postulate a theory based on having written the above,
> and it works. I added a line break in the quoted section that made a gap in
> the line running down the left edge. I was then able to select what was
> below it. That might be the workaround I was seeking.
>
> Google is even more opaque in responding to requests or acknowledging
> faults than is Apple. I'm happy to believe that some software geek at
> Google thinks Apple does it wrong and won't work around it, and the geek at
> Apple thinks likewise.
>
> But I have too many apps I use on the iPhone to change at this point, not
> least my government email app, which is unavailable on the less secure
> alternative platforms.
>
> Rick "who may have just solved the problem adequately" Denney
>
>
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:00 AM Billy Massey wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rick
>> I use Gmails interface quite frequently on my Android (Galaxy S6) and am
>> able to highlight whole sections of text to be cut from a reply. It seems
>> to me that you might consider a new phone or just a device for email. I
>> find the Samsung Galaxys very accommodating. Sometimes I wish I had a
>> Galaxy Tab series but just can't imagine holding that biggo 9 x 6 slab up
>> to my head to use the phone. :-)
>>
>> bdub
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327070 is a reply to message #327066] Wed, 13 December 2017 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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I'm trying to keep hobby emails on a separate app. No more, no less.

Rick "who has battles with iOS Mail, too" Denney

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:50 AM Les Burt wrote:

> Rick,
> What is preventing you from using the Apple mail app that comes with every
> iPhone?
>
> This is what I use and editing is straight forward. It allows gmail access
> with none of the editing problems you've mentioned.
>
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
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>
>
>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Richard Denney wrote:
>>
>> Billy,
>>
>> Maybe it's the iOS, but I can select and cut whole sections of text in
>> other iOS apps, just not either of the apps put out by Google (and I have
>> both GMail and Inbox). Inbox was fractionally better, which is why I went
>> to it. I think part of it is the line they draw down the left to show the
>> quote--selections that cross that line go haywire. Sometimes it works but
>> usually it doesn't.
>>
>> I'm utterly unable to select and delete any part of the below quote, for
>> example. Any attempt to select part of it selects all of it, and any
>> attempt to then deselect part of it deselects all of it.
>>
>> Although, I did just postulate a theory based on having written the
> above,
>> and it works. I added a line break in the quoted section that made a gap
> in
>> the line running down the left edge. I was then able to select what was
>> below it. That might be the workaround I was seeking.
>>
>> Google is even more opaque in responding to requests or acknowledging
>> faults than is Apple. I'm happy to believe that some software geek at
>> Google thinks Apple does it wrong and won't work around it, and the geek
> at
>> Apple thinks likewise.
>>
>> But I have too many apps I use on the iPhone to change at this point, not
>> least my government email app, which is unavailable on the less secure
>> alternative platforms.
>>
>> Rick "who may have just solved the problem adequately" Denney
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:00 AM Billy Massey wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rick
>>> I use Gmails interface quite frequently on my Android (Galaxy S6) and am
>>> able to highlight whole sections of text to be cut from a reply. It
> seems
>>> to me that you might consider a new phone or just a device for email. I
>>> find the Samsung Galaxys very accommodating. Sometimes I wish I had a
>>> Galaxy Tab series but just can't imagine holding that biggo 9 x 6 slab
> up
>>> to my head to use the phone. :-)
>>>
>>> bdub
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327071 is a reply to message #327070] Wed, 13 December 2017 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Brady is currently offline  Justin Brady   United States
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Why not just make a GMC specific email and keep the account separate in your app?
I have several accounts in my email, I can view one or all at any time.


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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327072 is a reply to message #327071] Wed, 13 December 2017 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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Justin, it's been asked before. I struggle with managing so many accounts
in Mail. I prefer to uses a standalone app for Gmail. I don't have to
program an outgoing mail server, or worry that the ports will suddenly be
blocked, as has happened several times with my personal email. Gmail's apps
do the mailing at the other end of the app-server chain.

Rick "who likes the way Inbox categorizes and groups incoming mail" Denney

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:06 AM Justin Brady wrote:

> Why not just make a GMC specific email and keep the account separate in
> your app?
> I have several accounts in my email, I can view one or all at any time.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCnet on iPhone [message #327101 is a reply to message #327018] Thu, 14 December 2017 13:21 Go to previous message
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SONICJK wrote on Mon, 11 December 2017 11:32

A modern forum setup with tapatalk would be miles ahead of what we have now (and of the email system) (YEP)

Bottom line is this forum is 10+ years behind forum technology, and the email list is 10 years behind that. (YEP)

You guys wonder why people are going to facebook instead of here. That's the reason. (HMM)


I agree SONICJK, But I also know from working in IT for over 30 Years that the Old Skooler have as hard of a time learning something new as the New Kidz on the block have learning something old ...

I would love to see a TAPTALK integration or a better forum setup. Hopefully somewhere in the Future this might come true.

FOr now ... I just deal with the old forum as I deal with my old GMC... Patience and Frustrating sometime at the same time

Grtx Dutch Marc


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