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Wed, 06 December 2017 15:17 |
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Dutch Marc
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Hi Everyone (Wanted to start of Hi Guys, but know there there are ladies here as well)
I am getting my tools in order for my 73 GMC, I have a 4T Bottle Jack, and need some input on a Floor Jack. I have a 2T and a 2.5T low Profile.
Since I like the size and weight of the 2 Ton a lot better, would this be nuf for using on my GMC to get the bottle jack in place. I have used the 2T once when my airbag hose got kinked and didn't want to inflate. I was able to lift the Coach and get the issues solved.
Not sure if there are any other repairs that I might encounter on the road that I would need a 2.5 T or lower profile.
As a Newbie I would also like to know if a pair of 3 Ton Stands are enough to keep the GMC lifted or do I need o go to the bigger and heavier 6 TONS?
Any input is appreciated !
Grtx Marc
1973 26' Canyon Land (Mello Yello) (TZE063v101302)
Full Time GMC Nomad ('98 NL 2 USA)
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Re: Jacks and Stands .... [message #326811 is a reply to message #326810] |
Wed, 06 December 2017 15:35 |
77Royale
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For stuff around the house you cannot go wrong in building a set of ramps. They are awesome once you have them and make life much easier. There are directions on the photo site.
For on the road. I would get a 6 ton two stage bottle jack. Jim K sells them, or Menards.com on line have have it shipped. Torin Big Red Jacks. The two stage is what you want.
Then get a jack hook Again, Jim K Sells those.
The weight of the bottle jack and hook is less than a floor jack, and Stores well in the coach and will get a corner off the ground even with a flat airbag. I would not want to mess with anything else.
For stuff around the house when the bottle jack is in the coach. Get a 3 ton or more floor jack. Harbor freight has them on sale usually with a 20% off coupon. That will also lift a corner as needed.
Jack Stands. Build them, or go with 6 ton units. Rather have more than enough than be squashed.
I have a heavy Royale and the 3 ton floor jack is working to get a rear corner up. 6 ton bottle, no sweat.
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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Re: Jacks and Stands .... [message #326813 is a reply to message #326810] |
Wed, 06 December 2017 17:31 |
Carl S.
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I have had my coach weighed a number of years back at the GMCMI in Pueblo. All six wheels have within a few pounds of 2000# on them. I use an older Craftsman 3.5-ton floor jack to jack it up, the front in the center of the crossmember, and the back under the bogie frames, one side at a time. It is a chore to lift it at those points even though the 6000# rated jack is 'only' lifting 4000# at those points.
I also carry a 6-ton bottle jack and one of these: http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/955 along with one of these: http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1080
I recently had to use the jack hook and the stubby two-stage jack to get the coach up when I blew a hole in an air line, and was glad I had them with me.
For jack stands, I use a pair of 3-ton units for the front and a pair of 6-tons for the rear.
Just what I do.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: Jacks and Stands .... [message #326814 is a reply to message #326813] |
Wed, 06 December 2017 17:37 |
Carl S.
Messages: 4186 Registered: January 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ.
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Carl S. wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 16:31I have had my coach weighed a number of years back at the GMCMI in Pueblo. All six wheels have within a few pounds of 2000# on them. I use an older Craftsman 3.5-ton floor jack to jack it up, the front in the center of the crossmember, and the back under the bogie frames, one side at a time. It is a chore to lift it at those points even though the 6000# rated jack is 'only' lifting 4000# at those points.
I also carry a 6-ton bottle jack and one of these: http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/955 along with one of these: http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1080
I recently had to use the jack hook and the stubby two-stage jack to get the coach up when I blew a hole in an air line, and was glad I had them with me.
For jack stands, I use a pair of 3-ton units for the front and a pair of 6-tons for the rear.
Just what I do.
For emailers, that should read: All six wheels have within a few pounds of 2000# on them.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: [GMCnet] Jacks and Stands .... [message #326815 is a reply to message #326810] |
Wed, 06 December 2017 17:35 |
Richard Denney
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Marc, the whole front weighs 4000-4500 pounds, so 2 tons is not enough for
lifting the front of the coach from the center of the crossmember to put on
jackstands. I wouldn't use anything smaller than a 3-ton jack for that, and
mine is 3-1/2 tons.
A heavy coach is about 4000 pounds per rear corner, but that's only when
the coach is level. As you jack up a rear corner, the front corner on the
same side will come with it, so the load will be greater. Again, I wouldn't
use anything less than a 3-ton jack.
A 6-ton bottle jack and a jack hook is very much the better option for the
rear, and probably cheaper, too. The right kind of jack hook can also work
in the front.
Rick "who needs another two-stage bottle jack" Denney
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:18 PM Dutch Marc wrote:
> Hi Everyone (Wanted to start of Hi Guys, but know there there are ladies
> here as well)
>
> I am getting my tools in order for my 73 GMC, I have a 4T Bottle Jack, and
> need some input on a Floor Jack. I have a 2T and a 2.5T low Profile.
>
> Since I like the size and weight of the 2 Ton a lot better, would this be
> nuf for using on my GMC to get the bottle jack in place. I have used the 2T
> once when my airbag hose got kinked and didn't want to inflate. I was able
> to lift the Coach and get the issues solved.
>
> Not sure if there are any other repairs that I might encounter on the road
> that I would need a 2.5 T or lower profile.
>
> As a Newbie I would also like to know if a pair of 3 Ton Stands are enough
> to keep the GMC lifted or do I need o go to the bigger and heavier 6 TONS?
>
> Any input is appreciated !
>
> Grtx Marc
> --
> 1973 26' Canyon Land (Mello Yello) (TZE063v101302)
> Los Angeles, CA ('98 NL 2 USA)
>
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73 x-Glacier 230 "Jaws"
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Re: Jacks and Stands .... [message #326816 is a reply to message #326810] |
Wed, 06 December 2017 18:02 |
Scott Nutter
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Isn't there a limitation that when jacking up the front end only lift from the center, or equally from the sides to keep level, so not to pop out the windshield?
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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Re: [GMCnet] Jacks and Stands .... [message #326820 is a reply to message #326816] |
Wed, 06 December 2017 18:18 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Scott,
You can jack up either side enough to allow R&Ring a tire without having to worry about the windshields. You jack up the side just
enough to get the tire off the studs and but the new one on.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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Isn't there a limitation that when jacking up the front end only lift from the center, or equally from the sides to keep level, so
not to pop out the
windshield?
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Re: [GMCnet] Jacks and Stands .... [message #326821 is a reply to message #326810] |
Wed, 06 December 2017 18:27 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Marc,
The 2.5 ton floor jack is OK to use on the front end under the main crossover; while the 2 ton works you are lifting more than you
should with that jack.
Frankly you would be better off getting one of these:
https://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-low-profile-steel-heavy-duty-floor-jack-with-rapid-pump-61282.html
These jack stands are fine as well:
https://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-steel-jack-stands-61196.html
However, there is an advantage to the 6 tons stands - they can go higher.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dutch Marc
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 3:17 PM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Jacks and Stands ....
Hi Everyone (Wanted to start of Hi Guys, but know there there are ladies here as well)
I am getting my tools in order for my 73 GMC, I have a 4T Bottle Jack, and need some input on a Floor Jack. I have a 2T and a 2.5T
low Profile.
Since I like the size and weight of the 2 Ton a lot better, would this be nuf for using on my GMC to get the bottle jack in place.
I have used the 2T once when my airbag hose got kinked and didn't want to inflate. I was able to lift the Coach and get the issues
solved.
Not sure if there are any other repairs that I might encounter on the road that I would need a 2.5 T or lower profile.
As a Newbie I would also like to know if a pair of 3 Ton Stands are enough to keep the GMC lifted or do I need o go to the bigger
and heavier 6 TONS?
Any input is appreciated !
Grtx Marc
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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