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Re: [GMCnet] Unique GMCs [message #326616 is a reply to message #326572] Fri, 01 December 2017 18:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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johnd01 wrote on Fri, 01 December 2017 10:44
Wayne,
Did you consider that 200 gallons will take a 40 foot 30,000 GVW diesel pusher with 4 slides 1600 to 2000 miles till they have to fill up
again? How many gallons and how many stops would you take to drive 2000 miles in your GMC?
--
*John Phillips*

John,

There in is typically some over looked points.

First: Tank range is immaterial. The fact that to cover 2K miles would require at least three fuel stops (full at departure and empty at arrival) simply does not matter. Even when we have been team driving that best day (that is a matter of opinion) was 1108 miles. We were both shot by then. So, the tank range just means that you have less reason to be conscious of fuel prices while underway.

Second: We have had internet onboard since 2008. We could search for fuel prices along the route. With that, Street Atlas (RIP) as a navigator and some other helpers, our travel could actually be amazingly effective.

Third: Many places these days, Diesel is about 20% more expensive than 87AON fuel. So, that DP coach at 8MPG is not all that good compared to my 9.2 that we can count on. (We have recorded flat land runs that were 10+.) My BIL (Sister has passed and he has a new DW) and anew diesel Wini View. He was all fired up about his 15.3 with is old one. I didn't have the heart to tell him that not counting his depreciation, that bottom right corner of my spreadsheet beat his. When you include depreciation - Katy bar the door.

Fourth: You know that ~40'DP? When they go looking for an EOD (End of Day) stop, they can't count on being able to pull into the car side of a highway rest area and sleep. They can try to pull in by the trucks and hope nobody needs to idle his engine or run the reefer all night. And, that there is room... Now that the economy is rolling again, there are more trucks on the road and they need to sleep. And, normal parking lots are a real big issue. No, I can't get into a parking structure, but I have never seen a level parking lot that I could not negotiate.

I'll stick with my GMC. If Mary hits the lottery, then, I may hire someone to work on it.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Unique GMCs [message #326617 is a reply to message #326616] Fri, 01 December 2017 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marsh Wilkes is currently offline  Marsh Wilkes   United States
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You Go Matt!

Marsh (rarely post now days) Wilkes

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Colie
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 7:59 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Unique GMCs

johnd01 wrote on Fri, 01 December 2017 10:44
> Wayne,
> Did you consider that 200 gallons will take a 40 foot 30,000 GVW diesel
> pusher with 4 slides 1600 to 2000 miles till they have to fill up
> again? How many gallons and how many stops would you take to drive 2000
> miles in your GMC?
> --
> *John Phillips*

John,

There in is typically some over looked points.

First: Tank range is immaterial. The fact that to cover 2K miles would
require at least three fuel stops (full at departure and empty at arrival)
simply does not matter. Even when we have been team driving that best day
(that is a matter of opinion) was 1108 miles. We were both shot by then.
So, the tank range just means that you have less reason to be conscious of
fuel prices while underway.

Second: We have had internet onboard since 2008. We could search for fuel
prices along the route. With that, Street Atlas (RIP) as a navigator and
some other helpers, our travel could actually be amazingly effective.

Third: Many places these days, Diesel is about 20% more expensive than 87AON
fuel. So, that DP coach at 8MPG is not all that good compared to my 9.2
that we can count on. (We have recorded flat land runs that were 10+.) My
BIL (Sister has passed and he has a new DW) and anew diesel Wini View. He
was all fired up about his 15.3 with is old one. I didn't have the heart to
tell him that not counting his depreciation, that bottom right corner of
my spreadsheet beat his. When you include depreciation - Katy bar the door.

Fourth: You know that ~40'DP? When they go looking for an EOD (End of Day)
stop, they can't count on being able to pull into the car side of a
highway rest area and sleep. They can try to pull in by the trucks and hope
nobody needs to idle his engine or run the reefer all night. And, that
there is room... Now that the economy is rolling again, there are more
trucks on the road and they need to sleep. And, normal parking lots are a
real
big issue. No, I can't get into a parking structure, but I have never seen
a level parking lot that I could not negotiate.

I'll stick with my GMC. If Mary hits the lottery, then, I may hire someone
to work on it.

Matt
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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit

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Re: [GMCnet] Unique GMCs [message #326620 is a reply to message #326614] Fri, 01 December 2017 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Well, I can't really testify to that, 'cause SHE still won't 'fess-up. But
knowing her conservative nature, I still think my cost estimates are
conservative. :-)

Ken H.

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Matt Colie wrote:

> Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 01 December 2017 13:32
>> I only took $100,000 depreciation on the 40' SOB we had for 9 years
> (aside
>> from all the repairs & improvements I made), but I still figure it cost
> us
>> more than the total cost of the GMC over the past 19 years.
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> Ken,
>
> Does that include the shades that Elaine bought?
> Just wondering.
> ;)
> Matt
> --
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Unique GMCs [message #326622 is a reply to message #326591] Fri, 01 December 2017 21:18 Go to previous message
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24 quarts? I wish it were only true. Try 46 with two oil filters. At least my GMC only needs 10 and two filters evey 3000 miles.
Hal



Mr ERFisher wrote on Fri, 01 December 2017 11:31
Injection pump $6,000
$150 per month so there is someone who can add. The 24 quarts of oil!!!

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 10:03 AM Todd Sullivan wrote:

> The black list is critical to our specialized antiquated GMCs. Not
> necessary when any diesel shop can work on your sob pusher because it
> shares drivetrains common in the trucking / bus industry.
>
> Just sayin
>
> sully
> 77 eleganza2
> bellevue
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Mike Kelley wrote:
>
>> To Todd Sullivan:
>> And how many of those SOB's have a Blacklist group like ours?
>> I may upgrade, but it will be to my GMC's and/or my Toad's, not to SOB's.
>> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>>>
>>> At least they can stop almost anywhere for service. Unlike the gmc
> where
>>> you need to find a specialist.
>>>
>>> Sully
>>> 77 eleganza 2
>>> Bellevue.
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 8:00 AM Rob Mueller
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> And one stop at the diesel pusher shop for servicing / repair will
> cost
>>>> how much?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rob M.
>>>> The Pedantic Mechanic
>>>> Sydney, Australia
>>>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>>>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>>> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> John
>>>> Phillips
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 9:44 AM
>>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Unique GMCs
>>>>
>>>> Wayne,
>>>> Did you consider that 200 gallons will take a 40 foot 30,000 GVW
>>>> diesel pusher with 4 slides 1600 to 2000 miles till they have to fill
> up
>>>> again? How many gallons and how many stops would you take to drive
> 2000
>>>> miles in your GMC?
>>>>
>>>> *John Phillips*
>>>>
>>>>
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