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Re: [GMCnet] Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325944 is a reply to message #325942] |
Sun, 12 November 2017 08:23 |
powerjon
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Mike,
Find one that fit the Vespa weight and size and in the price range that you can afford. Don’t go cheap, mid range is probably best. Not an issue as for weight for the carrying the Vespa. I know a several that have mounted the Honda Elite model 250. Depends totally on the type of hitch mounted on the rear of the GMC. Receiver type is the only one that I would use, bumper bolt on is a NOT for usage.
JR Wright
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> On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Mike wrote:
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> Hello All, i'm looking for suggestions on the best way to carry along a 250 pound Vespa motor scooter?
>
> I am looking at hitch - mounted carriers for this application, do you have any experience with a specific model or what would you recommend?
>
> Thanks for your opinions,
> Regards,
> Mike
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Re: [GMCnet] Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325952 is a reply to message #325944] |
Sun, 12 November 2017 19:32 |
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powerjon wrote on Sun, 12 November 2017 09:23Mike,
Find one that fit the Vespa weight and size and in the price range that you can afford. Don't go cheap, mid range is probably best. Not an issue as for weight for the carrying the Vespa. I know a several that have mounted the Honda Elite model 250. Depends totally on the type of hitch mounted on the rear of the GMC. Receiver type is the only one that I would use, bumper bolt on is a NOT for usage.
JR Wright
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GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMCMI
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1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
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> On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Mike wrote:
>
> Hello All, i'm looking for suggestions on the best way to carry along a 250 pound Vespa motor scooter?
>
> I am looking at hitch - mounted carriers for this application, do you have any experience with a specific model or what would you recommend?
>
> Thanks for your opinions,
> Regards,
> Mike
>
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Thanks JR, I agree the hitch mount is the way to go.The Vespa weighs in at ~265 lbs, going with a carrier that will handle 400 to 500 lbs should be more than sufficient to support the scooter.
Thanks again,
Regards,
Mike
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Re: [GMCnet] Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325953 is a reply to message #325952] |
Sun, 12 November 2017 23:15 |
johnd01
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I think the mx carries too far from the vehicle.
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Mike wrote:
> powerjon wrote on Sun, 12 November 2017 09:23
>> Mike,
>> Find one that fit the Vespa weight and size and in the price range that
> you can afford. Don't go cheap, mid range is probably best. Not an issue
>> as for weight for the carrying the Vespa. I know a several that have
> mounted the Honda Elite model 250. Depends totally on the type of hitch
>> mounted on the rear of the GMC. Receiver type is the only one that I
> would use, bumper bolt on is a NOT for usage.
>>
>> JR Wright
>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMCMI
>> 78 GMC Buskirk 30' Stretch
>> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>> Michigan
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Mike wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All, i'm looking for suggestions on the best way to carry
> along a 250 pound Vespa motor scooter?
>>>
>>> I am looking at hitch - mounted carriers for this application, do you
> have any experience with a specific model or what would you recommend?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your opinions,
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
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> Thanks JR, I agree the hitch mount is the way to go.The Vespa weighs in at
> ~265 lbs, going with a carrier that will handle 400 to 500 lbs should be
> more than sufficient to support the scooter.
>
> Thanks again,
> Regards,
> Mike
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325954 is a reply to message #325953] |
Mon, 13 November 2017 03:00 |
Ronald Pottol
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I'm going to need something that can handle a larger bike (going to buy
something like a BMW R1150GS next month), so I was looking at a
http://versahaul.com/vhsportro.php or the like, but that doesn't have a
lift, you drive it up.
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 9:15 PM, John Phillips
wrote:
> I think the mx carries too far from the vehicle.
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Mike wrote:
>
>> powerjon wrote on Sun, 12 November 2017 09:23
>>> Mike,
>>> Find one that fit the Vespa weight and size and in the price range that
>> you can afford. Don't go cheap, mid range is probably best. Not an
> issue
>>> as for weight for the carrying the Vespa. I know a several that have
>> mounted the Honda Elite model 250. Depends totally on the type of hitch
>>> mounted on the rear of the GMC. Receiver type is the only one that I
>> would use, bumper bolt on is a NOT for usage.
>>>
>>> JR Wright
>>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>>> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
>>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>>> GMCMI
>>> 78 GMC Buskirk 30' Stretch
>>> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>>> Michigan
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello All, i'm looking for suggestions on the best way to carry
>> along a 250 pound Vespa motor scooter?
>>>>
>>>> I am looking at hitch - mounted carriers for this application, do
> you
>> have any experience with a specific model or what would you recommend?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your opinions,
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
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>> Thanks JR, I agree the hitch mount is the way to go.The Vespa weighs in
> at
>> ~265 lbs, going with a carrier that will handle 400 to 500 lbs should be
>> more than sufficient to support the scooter.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325955 is a reply to message #325954] |
Mon, 13 November 2017 03:10 |
Ronald Pottol
Messages: 505 Registered: September 2012 Location: Redwood City, California
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The VersaHaul has an integrated hitch, so you can still tow up to 3000
pounds. Applied GMC sells a hitch than can handle up to 1000 pounds tongue
weight, and 15,000 towing weight.
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/730
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Ronald Pottol
wrote:
> I'm going to need something that can handle a larger bike (going to buy
> something like a BMW R1150GS next month), so I was looking at a
> http://versahaul.com/vhsportro.php or the like, but that doesn't have a
> lift, you drive it up.
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 9:15 PM, John Phillips
> wrote:
>
>> I think the mx carries too far from the vehicle.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Mike wrote:
>>
>>> powerjon wrote on Sun, 12 November 2017 09:23
>>>> Mike,
>>>> Find one that fit the Vespa weight and size and in the price range
>> that
>>> you can afford. Don't go cheap, mid range is probably best. Not an
>> issue
>>>> as for weight for the carrying the Vespa. I know a several that have
>>> mounted the Honda Elite model 250. Depends totally on the type of hitch
>>>> mounted on the rear of the GMC. Receiver type is the only one that I
>>> would use, bumper bolt on is a NOT for usage.
>>>>
>>>> JR Wright
>>>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>>>> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
>>>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>>>> GMCMI
>>>> 78 GMC Buskirk 30' Stretch
>>>> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>>>> Michigan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Mike wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hello All, i'm looking for suggestions on the best way to carry
>>> along a 250 pound Vespa motor scooter?
>>>> >
>>>> > I am looking at hitch - mounted carriers for this application, do
>> you
>>> have any experience with a specific model or what would you recommend?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for your opinions,
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Mike
>>>> >
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>>>
>>> Thanks JR, I agree the hitch mount is the way to go.The Vespa weighs in
>> at
>>> ~265 lbs, going with a carrier that will handle 400 to 500 lbs should be
>>> more than sufficient to support the scooter.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
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Re: Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325956 is a reply to message #325942] |
Mon, 13 November 2017 05:48 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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I built one around 12 years ago. I have hauled several motorcycles on it all over the country. I use to hual my 450 pound Honda and I never knew it was there. I usually take my 250cc Honda Scooter these days which is around 300 pounds.
The idea was to keep it as simple as possible. I made it out of 2" square (scrap) steel tubing, a hinge, a couple of eye bolts and something less than 8 foot long tray. I cut the tray out of a piece of scrap about 10" or 12" inches wide and too it to a local fab shop that has an 9 foot break to have the folds put in it to form a U shape. It took them less than 5 minutes and cost me around $10.00 labor. I probably have less that $50.00 in the hole thing. Lots of people around the airport borrow it. We all borrow each other's stuff on a regular basis. The following are pictures of it on the back of my Blazer after I used it to move a motorcycle home from somewhere in Michigan. I do not have any pictures of it on the back of my GMC.
I do suggest that you make a set of magnetic stick on tail lights as the motorcycle you are carrying will probably cover one of the vehicle tail lights. Harbor Freight has some cheap magnetic ones you could use. I made my own out of stuff I had around. I always meant to to convert them to LEDs but never got around to it.
Start here and page forward:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p26079-motorcycle-carrier.html
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Re: Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325960 is a reply to message #325957] |
Mon, 13 November 2017 06:48 |
Ken Burton
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I do not know what the maximum weight is that you can carry on the hitch. I have the Blaine Merrill 2" receiver hitch and it has never indicated that it could not carry the weight. I see Jim K. says 1000 pounds. I do not know if Blaine has ever stated a weight. So the next question is how much weight can you carry on the back of the coach. When I mount the scooter or motorcycle on the carrier, the first thing I notice when I start the engine is the air suspension compressor turns on to re-level the coach. Since everything is automatic I have never checked to see how much difference in ride height there is with that extra weight back there before it air up.
Like I said before, It is all automatic and I never notice that it is back there. Luckily I can just see the windshield of the bike in back window through the center inside mirror so I know it did not fall off. It is good to hear that your 600 pound bike carries the same.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325962 is a reply to message #325961] |
Mon, 13 November 2017 07:11 |
Ronald Pottol
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Well, there is someone with the heaviest coach ('78 Royal, 12,500) towing a
7500 pound trailer, granted, he does have the 3.70, and is thinking about
the 4.10 now that it's available. So, it can be done. I've not heard of
final drive or other concerns (temp of engine, transmission, both could be
issues, and of course, stopping, and stupid gets that much more expensive
;-)
I assume Applied knows what they are doing, unlike me. That carrier, a
motorcycle, and a modest trailer are all I feel any need for.
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John Phillips
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> Will the GMC tow 15000 lbs with a tongue weight of 1000 lbs?
> I have been looking for the max tow weight and tongue weight, so far
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/730
> is the best documentation I have found. Is the final drive strong enough to
> tow that much weight without shortening its life significantly?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:52 AM, Justin Brady wrote:
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>> I have the black widow from discount ramps.
>> It has hauled my 600 lb BMW F800GS all across the country
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Re: [GMCnet] Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325963 is a reply to message #325961] |
Mon, 13 November 2017 08:23 |
Ken Burton
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This is my opinion and it is opinion without anything to back it up.
I would not try it.
1. 1000 pounds on the back obviously lifts some unknown amount of weight off of the front wheels. The front is what moves the coach.
2. Also the braking on the coach in primarily on the front wheels.
3. The load that you are towing needs to have very good brakes on all wheels. The load is heavier that the tow vehicle (your GMC).
4. Finally I worry about the transmission dragging that much weight around. Especially if you are not in flat land country. That trans was initially designed to tow a 5000 or 6000 pound car around. You are asking it to tow 5 times it's original requirement.
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Re: [GMCnet] Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325965 is a reply to message #325961] |
Mon, 13 November 2017 09:17 |
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If I recall, recommended tongue weight to reduce the probability of tail-wag-the-dog trailer sway should be approximately 10% of the total trailer weight. That would mean a recommended tongue weight of 1500 pounds for that 15,000 pound trailer. I feel you should remember that the transmission was designed for an automobile that MIGHT weigh as much as 6000 pounds and is probably already heavily stressed to just move a 12000 motor home!
Ya pays yer money and takes yer chances, and I know there are a few GMCers who DO tow heavy weight trailers, but I sure wouldn't do it!
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Will the GMC tow 15000 lbs with a tongue weight of 1000 lbs?
I have been looking for the max tow weight and tongue weight, so far
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.appliedgmc.com%2Fprod.itml%2FicOid%2F730&data=02%7C01%7Ck2gkk%40hotmail.com%7 Ca9ffd287be8b4613773608d52a958e48%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636461744179536526&sdata=gCmFslUP5qXTgHi61Hz00rehxIxymWn4%2FD7bOUuP xtg%3D&reserved=0
is the best documentation I have found. Is the final drive strong enough to
tow that much weight without shortening its life significantly?
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:52 AM, Justin Brady wrote:
> I have the black widow from discount ramps.
> It has hauled my 600 lb BMW F800GS all across the country
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Re: [GMCnet] Hitch mounted Motorcycle - Scooter carriers [message #325973 is a reply to message #325952] |
Mon, 13 November 2017 18:42 |
jimk
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Should you elect to mount it in the back, we supply the HD Square receiver
hitch that can handle.
Were also working on a front mount with the Square receiver.
Rick Flanagan will need to assist us on load calculations.
I'm begining to see that the front mount has some limitation on weight
capacity.
Like any kit, we learned from Blue Ox, the towing people that you never
want to weld onto a frame, just bolt it.
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Mike wrote:
> powerjon wrote on Sun, 12 November 2017 09:23
>> Mike,
>> Find one that fit the Vespa weight and size and in the price range that
> you can afford. Don't go cheap, mid range is probably best. Not an issue
>> as for weight for the carrying the Vespa. I know a several that have
> mounted the Honda Elite model 250. Depends totally on the type of hitch
>> mounted on the rear of the GMC. Receiver type is the only one that I
> would use, bumper bolt on is a NOT for usage.
>>
>> JR Wright
>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMCMI
>> 78 GMC Buskirk 30' Stretch
>> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>> Michigan
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Mike wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All, i'm looking for suggestions on the best way to carry
> along a 250 pound Vespa motor scooter?
>>>
>>> I am looking at hitch - mounted carriers for this application, do you
> have any experience with a specific model or what would you recommend?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your opinions,
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
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> Thanks JR, I agree the hitch mount is the way to go.The Vespa weighs in at
> ~265 lbs, going with a carrier that will handle 400 to 500 lbs should be
> more than sufficient to support the scooter.
>
> Thanks again,
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
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