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Hal StClair
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I've found what looks like a deal on some air compressors and was wondering if there would be any interest in them before I pursue the deal any farther.They have the same specs as a Viair 380,100% duty cycle at 100 psi,1.34 CFM at 0,.85 com @ 100 from at 0,22 amps max and 200 PSI max working pressure. They really look like a clone to the Viair.I think the price point should be about $100 plus the shipping. If there is interest I,'ll pursue it.
Thanks, Hal
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| Re: Air compressor deal [message #325656 is a reply to message #325652] |
Thu, 02 November 2017 11:34  |
jhbridges
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Lemme lookit what's inthere now.....
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| Re: Air compressor deal [message #325660 is a reply to message #325652] |
Thu, 02 November 2017 14:57 |
hal kading
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Hal,
I purchased two Viair clones off Ebay. Specs on Ebay were the same as Viair. When they came the specs on the units were way less. BEWARE. Return and refund went OK.
Other Hal 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
Hal Kading 1978 Buskirk Stretch 502 Las Cruces NM
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| Re: Air compressor deal [message #325662 is a reply to message #325652] |
Thu, 02 November 2017 15:25 |
jhbridges
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I'd go a hundred and shipping not over $25 fopr one as a spare.
==johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air compressor deal [message #325677 is a reply to message #325662] |
Thu, 02 November 2017 20:41 |
Bruce Hart
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If you have a Sully Bag system 80psi would be maximum pressure to inflate
to highest height on suspension.
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I'd go a hundred and shipping not over $25 fopr one as a spare.
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> ==johnny
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> Braselton, Ga.
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> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air compressor deal [message #325683 is a reply to message #325677] |
Fri, 03 November 2017 04:15 |
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You really need more pressure in the tank than what the airbag needs. I
think 100 PSI is a little low but will work.
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Bruce Hart wrote:
> If you have a Sully Bag system 80psi would be maximum pressure to inflate
> to highest height on suspension.
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> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> I'd go a hundred and shipping not over $25 fopr one as a spare.
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>> ==johnny
>> --
>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>> Braselton, Ga.
>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
> me
>> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air compressor deal [message #325691 is a reply to message #325677] |
Fri, 03 November 2017 10:38 |
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James, I agree that 110 psi should give you maximum travel however I think the reason some want a higher pressure in their pressure tank is to allow the coach to raise faster. Especially when leveling the coach at a campsite.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Nov 3, 2017, at 9:31 AM, James Hupy wrote:
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> I work on these air suspensions a great deal. What limits travel is the
> shock absorber travel. Not air pressure. 150 psi is not necessary or of
> much value except as bragging rights. "My air system makes more pressure
> than yours does" kind of thing. Unless you have a storage compartment full
> of anvils, you won't need more than 110 psi. to reach full travel. Less
> than that to reach ride height.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
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> On Nov 3, 2017 6:27 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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> I wasn't speaking pressure. I'll pay up to a hundred for one, and up to 25
> more for shipping. That was aimed at Hal for reference :) FWIW, my coach
> has a clone of Sully's setup. I sent him a picture, reply was 'not mine'.
> No idea where they came from.
>
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air compressor deal [message #325692 is a reply to message #325677] |
Fri, 03 November 2017 10:31 |
James Hupy
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I work on these air suspensions a great deal. What limits travel is the
shock absorber travel. Not air pressure. 150 psi is not necessary or of
much value except as bragging rights. "My air system makes more pressure
than yours does" kind of thing. Unless you have a storage compartment full
of anvils, you won't need more than 110 psi. to reach full travel. Less
than that to reach ride height.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Nov 3, 2017 6:27 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
I wasn't speaking pressure. I'll pay up to a hundred for one, and up to 25
more for shipping. That was aimed at Hal for reference :) FWIW, my coach
has a clone of Sully's setup. I sent him a picture, reply was 'not mine'.
No idea where they came from.
--johnny
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76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air compressor deal [message #325693 is a reply to message #325691] |
Fri, 03 November 2017 10:56 |
James Hupy
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Point well taken, but I suspect that all the bends and long runs of small
diameter tubing and height control valving have much to do with speed of
bag filling as well. Some people equate compressor run time with travel
movement, and that is more an issue of control points than movement. Those
water pump switches are notorious for their inaccurate regulation. If you
have a tired compressor that is a little hot, they take quite a while to
reach compressor cutoff, but, the bags are already at pre set heights
before the compressor decides to shut off. My take on it, anyway.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Nov 3, 2017 8:39 AM, "Emery Stora" wrote:
> James, I agree that 110 psi should give you maximum travel however I think
> the reason some want a higher pressure in their pressure tank is to allow
> the coach to raise faster. Especially when leveling the coach at a
> campsite.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 9:31 AM, James Hupy wrote:
>>
>> I work on these air suspensions a great deal. What limits travel is the
>> shock absorber travel. Not air pressure. 150 psi is not necessary or of
>> much value except as bragging rights. "My air system makes more pressure
>> than yours does" kind of thing. Unless you have a storage compartment
> full
>> of anvils, you won't need more than 110 psi. to reach full travel. Less
>> than that to reach ride height.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2017 6:27 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I wasn't speaking pressure. I'll pay up to a hundred for one, and up to
> 25
>> more for shipping. That was aimed at Hal for reference :) FWIW, my
> coach
>> has a clone of Sully's setup. I sent him a picture, reply was 'not
> mine'.
>> No idea where they came from.
>>
>>
>> --johnny
>> --
>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>> Braselton, Ga.
>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
> me
>> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air compressor deal [message #325696 is a reply to message #325693] |
Fri, 03 November 2017 11:33 |
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It is a lot faster to lower the coach than raise it. When I level for
camping I start at travel or full raise (which I switch on while arriving)
and maneuver around the camp site until I find a spot where the front end
is low then lower the rear to level. This almost always allows for a low
step in and out of the coach as well.
JWID
Sully
77 eleganza 2
Bellevue.
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:56 AM, James Hupy wrote:
> Point well taken, but I suspect that all the bends and long runs of small
> diameter tubing and height control valving have much to do with speed of
> bag filling as well. Some people equate compressor run time with travel
> movement, and that is more an issue of control points than movement. Those
> water pump switches are notorious for their inaccurate regulation. If you
> have a tired compressor that is a little hot, they take quite a while to
> reach compressor cutoff, but, the bags are already at pre set heights
> before the compressor decides to shut off. My take on it, anyway.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Nov 3, 2017 8:39 AM, "Emery Stora" wrote:
>
>> James, I agree that 110 psi should give you maximum travel however I
> think
>> the reason some want a higher pressure in their pressure tank is to allow
>> the coach to raise faster. Especially when leveling the coach at a
>> campsite.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 9:31 AM, James Hupy wrote:
>>>
>>> I work on these air suspensions a great deal. What limits travel is the
>>> shock absorber travel. Not air pressure. 150 psi is not necessary or of
>>> much value except as bragging rights. "My air system makes more
> pressure
>>> than yours does" kind of thing. Unless you have a storage compartment
>> full
>>> of anvils, you won't need more than 110 psi. to reach full travel. Less
>>> than that to reach ride height.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Or
>>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2017 6:27 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wasn't speaking pressure. I'll pay up to a hundred for one, and up
> to
>> 25
>>> more for shipping. That was aimed at Hal for reference :) FWIW, my
>> coach
>>> has a clone of Sully's setup. I sent him a picture, reply was 'not
>> mine'.
>>> No idea where they came from.
>>>
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>> --
>>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
>> me
>>> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>>>
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air compressor deal [message #325697 is a reply to message #325677] |
Fri, 03 November 2017 11:40 |
James Hupy
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One of my Canadian friends gave us a matchbox gmc model which he painted to
resemble our coach. I use it as a leveling device. Put it on the dinette
table or the counter top and see if it rolls. If it does, I grab my remote
control and adjust the ride height until it stays put. Works for me.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Nov 3, 2017 9:34 AM, "Todd Sullivan" wrote:
It is a lot faster to lower the coach than raise it. When I level for
camping I start at travel or full raise (which I switch on while arriving)
and maneuver around the camp site until I find a spot where the front end
is low then lower the rear to level. This almost always allows for a low
step in and out of the coach as well.
JWID
Sully
77 eleganza 2
Bellevue.
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:56 AM, James Hupy wrote:
> Point well taken, but I suspect that all the bends and long runs of small
> diameter tubing and height control valving have much to do with speed of
> bag filling as well. Some people equate compressor run time with travel
> movement, and that is more an issue of control points than movement. Those
> water pump switches are notorious for their inaccurate regulation. If you
> have a tired compressor that is a little hot, they take quite a while to
> reach compressor cutoff, but, the bags are already at pre set heights
> before the compressor decides to shut off. My take on it, anyway.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Nov 3, 2017 8:39 AM, "Emery Stora" wrote:
>
>> James, I agree that 110 psi should give you maximum travel however I
> think
>> the reason some want a higher pressure in their pressure tank is to
allow
>> the coach to raise faster. Especially when leveling the coach at a
>> campsite.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 9:31 AM, James Hupy wrote:
>>>
>>> I work on these air suspensions a great deal. What limits travel is
the
>>> shock absorber travel. Not air pressure. 150 psi is not necessary or
of
>>> much value except as bragging rights. "My air system makes more
> pressure
>>> than yours does" kind of thing. Unless you have a storage compartment
>> full
>>> of anvils, you won't need more than 110 psi. to reach full travel.
Less
>>> than that to reach ride height.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Or
>>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2017 6:27 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wasn't speaking pressure. I'll pay up to a hundred for one, and up
> to
>> 25
>>> more for shipping. That was aimed at Hal for reference :) FWIW, my
>> coach
>>> has a clone of Sully's setup. I sent him a picture, reply was 'not
>> mine'.
>>> No idea where they came from.
>>>
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>> --
>>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer
to
>> me
>>> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>>>
>>>
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FWIW, my coach has a clone of Sully's setup. I sent him a picture, reply was 'not mine'. No idea where they came from.