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[GMCnet] Generator [message #324543] Mon, 02 October 2017 11:54 Go to next message
rvandcabarkley is currently offline  rvandcabarkley   United States
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I have a 1976 Eleganza II with the original generator. It turns over but will not start. The mechanic says I should just replace it. Any thoughts on repair?

Ron Barkley
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #324551 is a reply to message #324543] Mon, 02 October 2017 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes. Fix it. Get Duane Simmon's troubleshooting guide for the Onan Power Drawer. Step - by - step till it runs

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #324555 is a reply to message #324543] Mon, 02 October 2017 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron - Replacing the generator is a $3K minimum to perhaps $5K depending on lots of factors. Is your mechanic a generator specialist? If not, it could be something simple most of which you can check yourself using a meter. Mine had the same symptoms recently and it turned out to be a split fuel line in a hidden location, a $5 fix. Where are you located, in case there is someone nearby who can assist you.

Bob Burkitt Cincinnati Sent privately rburkitt@cinci.rr.com

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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #324556 is a reply to message #324543] Mon, 02 October 2017 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rvandcabarkley wrote on Mon, 02 October 2017 12:54
I have a 1976 Eleganza II with the original generator. It turns over but will not start. The mechanic says I should just replace it. Any thoughts on repair?

Ron Barkley

Ron,

Is the "mechanic" and RV mechanic?
If he is, go find a small engine shop. They will have had lots of experience dealing with this family of Onan.
Go to Bdub's first and download all the stuff for the NH Onan that you can find. Then do as suggested and get the Duane Simmons stuff too.

If it does not start and run, that is an engine only issue. The only thing that the engine end and the AC end have in common is the shaft between the two and the coach that carries it. The engine design qualifies a neolithic (New Stone Age). No Rocket Science here.

With the withdrawal of the Honda 6010 from the market, there are not many replacements that are worth the investment.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #324565 is a reply to message #324543] Mon, 02 October 2017 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rvandcabarkley wrote on Mon, 02 October 2017 11:54
I have a 1976 Eleganza II with the original generator. It turns over but will not start. The mechanic says I should just replace it. Any thoughts on repair?

Ron Barkley
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Here is good info on Onan with links to more stuff
http://www.gmcidiotsguide.com/chapter-5---trouble-shooting-the-onan--the-gmc-genset.html
http://www.gmcidiotsguide.com/chapter-5---trouble-shooting-the-onan--the-gmc-genset.html


Wally Anderson
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #324570 is a reply to message #324543] Mon, 02 October 2017 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Or find a good lawn tractor guy with grey hair. Onan put thousands of these boxer engines in lawn tractors. It's either no fuel or no spark. Often not the generators fault but bad aged out fuel lines or pinched fuel lines. Mine starts as soon as my finger touches the button. And runs both ACs easilly

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Generator [message #324571 is a reply to message #324570] Tue, 03 October 2017 06:26 Go to previous message
Jim Miller is currently offline  Jim Miller   United States
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Easy way to start troubleshooting is to see if it’ll hit off on a snort of starting fluid while cranking. If it DOES then ignition is working and you can go after a fuel problem. If it DOES NOT hit then work on the ignition - and once the ignition is working then re-evaluate the rest.

To reiterate what others have said - always always always jump terminal 5 to 9 as the very first step when troubleshooting. This bypasses a lot of common failure items on the control board and helps with the process of elimination.

Jim Miller
1977 Eleganza
1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH




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