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Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324259] Sat, 23 September 2017 06:51 Go to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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We will be taking our coach into Canada in a couple of days and will be crossing at Niagara Falls. I know about Guns and drugs etc., but the last time I crossed, there were some food type restrictions. Like eggs, some fruits, and worms and night crawlers (for fishing) that we could not bring. What are the restrictions in both directions that we are likely to encounter? Just don't want any surprises.

Larry Smile
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Re: Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324264 is a reply to message #324259] Sat, 23 September 2017 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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Larry,
Restricted items such as food and animals (other than pets) changes quite often in both directions, so you would be better to goto the Canadian Border Services website and get the very latest info from them directly.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/menu-eng.html

Click on "bring goods across the border for personal use"

Canada is more focused on guns and weapons.

Going into USA is much more restrictive on food (fruits, vegetables and meat), so we just don't bother bringing any.


Bruce Hislop
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Re: Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324266 is a reply to message #324259] Sat, 23 September 2017 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Larry wrote on Sat, 23 September 2017 07:51
We will be taking our coach into Canada in a couple of days and will be crossing at Niagara Falls. I know about Guns and drugs etc., but the last time I crossed, there were some food type restrictions. Like eggs, some fruits, and worms and night crawlers (for fishing) that we could not bring. What are the restrictions in both directions that we are likely to encounter? Just don't want any surprises.

Larry,

As Mary has family there, we cross the border pretty regularly and your issue has been a source of annoyance for years. One would think that there would be a place you could call or a website where this was laid out, but if there is, I have never found it. The many of the times we have wanted to go into/out of Canada, I have tried to contact the proper authorities. The best joke is that I once got a hold of someone that at least knew that they did not have that information there but he gave me a phone number for some office that should. They never answered the phone.

I just went back to an old bookmark for Canada and it has been improved:
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/food/information-for-consumers/travellers/what-can-i-bring-into-canada-/eng/1389648337546/1389648516990#a1
this might help.

Matt


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Re: Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324268 is a reply to message #324259] Sat, 23 September 2017 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,

We have gone back and forth many times and the best advise is: No guns, drugs that you don't
have a prescription for, no fresh fruits or veggies. .....and I would get the bait locally when
you get to where you are going. Have all required documents on both you and the coach. Lastly
stay calm. Both sides are trained read body language. ....... and answer all questions as truthfully
and best as you can.

jim Galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
Re: Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324272 is a reply to message #324268] Sat, 23 September 2017 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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They may ask to see vaccination papers for animals.
Take off sunglasses when talking to the agent.
Buy any booze on the US side.
Gas is expensive. $1.20 a litre. That's a US quart. So fill up on US side.
Re: [GMCnet] Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324275 is a reply to message #324272] Sat, 23 September 2017 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt
Can you find the same thing for Canucks going into the US ?

Tks

Mike in NS

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 3:55 PM, David H. Jarvis wrote:

> They may ask to see vaccination papers for animals.
> Take off sunglasses when talking to the agent.
> Buy any booze on the US side.
> Gas is expensive. $1.20 a litre. That's a US quart. So fill up on US side.
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Re: [GMCnet] Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324280 is a reply to message #324275] Sat, 23 September 2017 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 23 September 2017 18:49
Matt
Can you find the same thing for Canucks going into the US ?

Tks

Mike in NS
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Mike,

There are two problems here....
The inspections are done by Customs and Border Protection (CBP), but what is regulated is determined by the United State Department of Agriculture (USDA). The do not always communicate very well (if at all).
I did find a page that I had not seen before https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/General%20List%20of%20Approved%20Food%20and%20Plant%20Products.pdf that gives some semblance of magnitude, but I know that what is actually restricted is almost on a daily basis.

When Mary's relatives come to visit - and/or get a flight south - they never bring any food. (Marg did accidentally pack a small bottle of maple syrup once.)

Actually, I was wrong. There are three problems. That last being the CDP people at Detroit. As a ship's engineer and other things I have traveled a lot. I have never had the hassel that has been provided by CDP at the Ambassador Bridge. I know you are a long ways from there, but it is still a place to avoid.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324295 is a reply to message #324280] Sun, 24 September 2017 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Tks Matt
I've never had much of a problem in either direction in the GMC but
knowledge is always handy.

Mike

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Matt Colie wrote:

> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 23 September 2017 18:49
>> Matt
>> Can you find the same thing for Canucks going into the US ?
>>
>> Tks
>>
>> Mike in NS
>> --
>> Michael Beaton
>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>> Antigonish, NS
>
>
> Mike,
>
> There are two problems here....
> The inspections are done by Customs and Border Protection (CBP), but what
> is regulated is determined by the United State Department of Agriculture
> (USDA). The do not always communicate very well (if at all).
> I did find a page that I had not seen before
> https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/General%20List%20of%
> 20Approved%20Food%20and%20Plant%20Products.pdf that gives some semblance
> of
> magnitude, but I know that what is actually restricted is almost on a
> daily basis.
>
> When Mary's relatives come to visit - and/or get a flight south - they
> never bring any food. (Marg did accidentally pack a small bottle of maple
> syrup once.)
>
> Actually, I was wrong. There are three problems. That last being the CDP
> people at Detroit. As a ship's engineer and other things I have traveled a
> lot. I have never had the hassel that has been provided by CDP at the
> Ambassador Bridge. I know you are a long ways from there, but it is still a
> place to avoid.
>
> Matt
> --
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Re: Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324296 is a reply to message #324259] Sun, 24 September 2017 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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Mike,

Here is another page from US Customs and Border Protection:

https://tinyurl.com/y7pudjb6

Its so broad and vague that we don't bother bringing any food with us, except condiments (ketchup etc).


Bruce Hislop
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Re: Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324308 is a reply to message #324259] Sun, 24 September 2017 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do not make more of this than what it is. Over the years I have crossed at nearly every border crossing west of I-190 / Ontario 405 all the way to BC/Washington. The questions vary. They mostly want to hear your voice. Into Canada fill out the form ahead of time if you are carrying a rifle or shotgun (No handguns) and give them a credit card for the $25.00 annual fee. Answer only the questions that they ask and you will be on you way in a couple of minutes.

On the US side the questions are usually: where have you been and for how long? What did you buy in Canada and are bringing back. If you are an American the food thing will come up based on your answer. I never tell them I am bringing back in my rifles because they do not ask or care.

Canadians get a little more scrutiny because it is assumed that they are bringing in food from Canada. On the way back to Canada they get more hassle because Canada wants to tax them on what they bought.

As I pull up to the crossing station I usually hand them my border crossing card (or passport) and drivers license. Also the same for others in the vehicle. That establishes my address which matches the registration they are already running from the TV camera pointed at the back of my car. It establishes my citizenship / residency. If I have my GMC with the scooter on it, I volunteer my GMC license plate number because the camera can not see through the scooter to view the plate. Do that and you should be in and out in 1 to 2 minutes.


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Re: Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324328 is a reply to message #324259] Sun, 24 September 2017 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Basically the same as for Canadians going into the US. Avoid meat, poultry, fruit and vegetables, eggs, firewood - basically anything that can carry a disease.

I've even been refused entry to New York from Quebec carrying a bag of camping wood that was labeled clearly showing that had been purchased....in a New York state park. Had to turn around, dump the US wood in Canada before entering the US.

And if you have prescription meds, its safest to carry them in the little pharmacist bottle with the label on the front (your name, name of dispensing pharmacist). I got random checked flying into some US city from Canada and they went through my toiletries kit, scrutinizing everything. They said it was a good thing the pills were in "legit" bottles because they could be otherwise confiscated.


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Re: [GMCnet] Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324329 is a reply to message #324328] Sun, 24 September 2017 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmmmm! Getting out of Canada, back into the U.S.A. TODAY, SUNDAY, BEFORE
NOON. should be a slam dunk, right? But noooo. Judy checked her watch when
we reached the Sumas maze. One hour and 15 minutes later in the hot sun. No
idle zone. So no A.C. Yellow jackets everywhere, so no open windows either.
When we arrived at the booth, handed them our pasports, answered the
questions they asked truthfully, about 2 minutes at the booth and we were
on our way. Sure felt good to be under way and get some air circulation. I
guess you never know how long it is going to be. One idiot in a diesel
pusher towing a Fiat pulled into a closed lane. They had to back up a whole
bunch of cars to allow the coach room to back out of there.
Pi $$€d off a whole bunch of folks who were waiting in line. Just the way
it goes, I guess.
Jim Hupy

On Sep 24, 2017 8:14 PM, "Gordon Gibson" wrote:

> Basically the same as for Canadians going into the US. Avoid meat,
> poultry, fruit and vegetables, eggs, firewood - basically anything that
> can carry
> a disease.
>
> I've even been refused entry to New York from Quebec carrying a bag of
> camping wood that was labeled clearly showing that had been purchased....in
> a
> New York state park. Had to turn around, dump the US wood in Canada
> before entering the US.
>
> And if you have prescription meds, its safest to carry them in the little
> pharmacist bottle with the label on the front (your name, name of dispensing
> pharmacist). I got random checked flying into some US city from Canada
> and they went through my toiletries kit, scrutinizing everything. They said
> it was a good thing the pills were in "legit" bottles because they could
> be otherwise confiscated.
> --
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> 1976 23" Norris Upfit
> Montreal West, Quebec, Canada
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Re: Getting into Canada...then back home [message #324390 is a reply to message #324259] Tue, 26 September 2017 10:16 Go to previous message
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Hi,

Our expirience....
We entered Canada coming from Europe, by plane, in Calgary, last year ...
Made a nice trip from Calgary, Banff, Lake Louise, Jasper .... Vancouver ...
It took us, going from Vancouver to Seattle, at the border to the US, 45 minutes, not counting the time waiting in line, that was at 8 am not that long.

We had to park the rental at a separate parking, going inside, waiting to be examined...
All paperwork was oké, all passports etc, etc ...
And still the question were do you stay .... in a MH .... gave some confusion, so I said finally, in the MH at a campsite, direction of Yellowstone.
That wasn't enough, I had to give a physical address ... and it didn't matter it was too far to drive in one day Wink

So I only know, there was a KOA west of Yellowstone Park, and gave that address .... that was alright, the only last question was, in what State that town was .... Grrrrrr ... how the hack some European from the Netherlands would know that ... then a supervisor stepped in and told the border off. ... you can figure that out yourself .... for the record, they never inspected the RV or asked for food or other items ...

At the Hoover Dam we were inspected more thoroughly, they entered the MH and we had to open several closets ...

Going back to Canada, since our flight was from Calgary again and we had to return the MH ... standing in lane took 10 minutes, crossing the actual border 2 minutes ...

Daniël


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