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[GMCnet] Headliner [message #323982] Mon, 18 September 2017 12:13 Go to next message
ron preston is currently offline  ron preston   United States
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Hi all,
I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
are you all using for additional insulation?
Thanks ,
Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
San José
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #323983 is a reply to message #323982] Mon, 18 September 2017 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cesar Carrasco is currently offline  Cesar Carrasco   United States
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I'd like to replace mine too. Any reply's?

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:13 AM, ron preston
wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
> mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
> accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
> backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
> are you all using for additional insulation?
> Thanks ,
> Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
> San José
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #323984 is a reply to message #323983] Mon, 18 September 2017 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One of "the Jims" i'd imagine. :)



On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Cesar Carrasco
wrote:

> I'd like to replace mine too. Any reply's?
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:13 AM, ron preston
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the
> plastic
>> mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
>> accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
>> backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
>> are you all using for additional insulation?
>> Thanks ,
>> Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
>> San José
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #323986 is a reply to message #323982] Mon, 18 September 2017 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Most are using FRP or ABS with success for the main panels. ABS is more expensive, but easier to work with. You also won't have to worry about future water damage with either.

You can reuse the transition strips if you remove them carefully. I washed and painted mine with Krylon to match the new white roof. For the conduit covering on the side, the Panduit C3WH6 worked perfectly for me. You'll need 5 or 6 pieces to do the whole coach Smile

Shaun


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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #323990 is a reply to message #323982] Mon, 18 September 2017 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adrien G. is currently offline  Adrien G.   United States
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Ron,
I used 3mm panels, sealed the top with 2 coats, 1 coat on bottom of varnish thinned 30%. Some use plastic shower panels, what ever material you use, take a scrap piece and work the width needed (don't use the original panels, they're probably short by now), measure 3 times and cut once.

When installing the panels, 2 person is best to put the sides in then get something that's 30" or so wide
by the length of the panel, to push the panel center up, or you'll stand a chance of cracking it dew to
openings. The hardest panels to install for me was over the fridge/galley and the rear going into closet/shower (without braking).

If you use some upholstery material, use only DAP Weldwood HHR #70798 00095 contact glue (High Heat Resistant) look for at upholstery suppliers. Or the material will come down in the heat of summer.

For insulation I used foam boards from HD or Lowes, 2 layers of 3/4" and can foam for glue. You must hold the pieces in place until the foam sets, the expansion will dislodge the piece. About the OEM foam, I used a scraper to remove it. I feel that foam wasn't for insulation but more for sound control. MacMaster-Carr sells spray foam in small containers size.

Need more, text or call.




ron preston wrote on Mon, 18 September 2017 10:13
Hi all,
I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
are you all using for additional insulation?
Thanks ,
Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
San José
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #323993 is a reply to message #323990] Mon, 18 September 2017 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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My PO did the headliner this way:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3244-headliner-installation.html

It looks great and we really like it. Especially nice is that the center section is easily removable making it easier to add wiring for additional lights, antennas etc.


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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #323995 is a reply to message #323993] Mon, 18 September 2017 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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I also installed mine lengthwise to provide access to the center section. FRP is waterproof, bends and cuts easily and is prefinished so once it's installed you're done. Edge trim is available at Lowes & HD.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior/p60776-ceiling.html

Did my front cap with FRP as well. It looks nice but requires a lot of custom fitting.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/cockpit/p63669-with-visors.html

JP
Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #323996 is a reply to message #323982] Mon, 18 September 2017 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Ron

I'm using FRP panels from Lowes. They also sell a variety of trim strips that fit the FRP.

Dennis

ron preston wrote on Mon, 18 September 2017 12:13
Hi all,
I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
are you all using for additional insulation?
Thanks ,
Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
San José
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #323997 is a reply to message #323996] Mon, 18 September 2017 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Ron

Another source for trim - more for edges of wall panels around windows.

https://www.trimlok.com

Dennis

Dennis S wrote on Mon, 18 September 2017 17:12
Ron

I'm using FRP panels from Lowes. They also sell a variety of trim strips that fit the FRP.

Dennis

ron preston wrote on Mon, 18 September 2017 12:13
Hi all,
I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic
mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
are you all using for additional insulation?
Thanks ,
Ron Preston 75 Glenbrook
San José
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #323999 is a reply to message #323982] Mon, 18 September 2017 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Miller is currently offline  Jim Miller   United States
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On Sep 18, 2017, at 1:13 PM, ron preston wrote:

> I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the plastic mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what are you all using for additional insulation?


Here’s what I did with FRP and isocyanurate insulation board:

Ceiling Replacement

—Jim

Jim Miller
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1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH



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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324001 is a reply to message #323999] Mon, 18 September 2017 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron
I didn't read all the replies but I found 1/4 way too thick..try 1/8.

Mike in NS

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

> On Sep 18, 2017, at 1:13 PM, ron preston wrote:
>
>> I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the
> plastic mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
> accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
> backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
> are you all using for additional insulation?
>
>
> Here’s what I did with FRP and isocyanurate insulation board:
>
> Ceiling Replacement
>
> —Jim
>
> Jim Miller
> 1977 Eleganza
> 1977 Royale
> Hamilton, OH
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324007 is a reply to message #324001] Mon, 18 September 2017 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I done mine the way that Randy Van Winkle did his. Get the 3/16 or 1/4"
plastic corrugated signboard, cut it to fit the curvature so that it'll pop
into place. Use landau top contact cement to attach hull liner fabric.
Impervious to moisture and is sound dampening. Looks and performs great!

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Coroplast-48-in-x-96-in-x-0-157-in-White-Corrugated-Plastic-Sheet-CP4896S/205351385

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/281094382720?chn=ps&dispItem=1

http://www.sailrite.com/HullBlanket-Headliner-Hull-Liner-Carpet-Type-Ivory-M93-72?gclid=CjwKCAjw3f3NBRBPEiwAiiHxGPfCJktw-OL2LeCIMq4p67q1QKW2BlfCN11aWX -SBuoZmrwIh_rlmxoCk0AQAvD_BwE

https://www.harborfreight.com/20-oz-8-cfm-gravity-feed-spray-gun-67181.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/search.php?searchid=331109

bdub


>> On Sep 18, 2017, at 1:13 PM, ron preston wrote:
>>
>>> I'm replacing my headliner, and I want to find a source for the
>> plastic mouldings etc. I had bookmarked a source from this forum but
>> accidentally deleted it. Iwas thinking of replacing the cardboard/foam
>> backing with 1/4 bendable plywood. Any other suggestions? Also what
>> are you all using for additional insulation?
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324010 is a reply to message #323982] Tue, 19 September 2017 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used FRP (fibre reinforced plastic) and it worked very successfully. Wish I had kept the old panels as panels. One side had a “bubble” finish so I used the back (it was smooth) and painted it with krylon.
Its now smooth and hard. Sound deadening it is not. For the joints I made a shallow wood cove with a strip of LEDs hidden in it. The centre portion of the ceiling I sprayed with a texture, the idea being to have the LEDs in the cove shine out along the ceiling. Gives the appearance of ‘depth’. An old interior design trick. Anyway in spite of my lack of 'fitting skills’ it looks quite good.
For Insulation I left the old factory stuff in place and sprayed the space full with foam. Took some time to scrape the excess down, but it all got done.
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324024 is a reply to message #324010] Tue, 19 September 2017 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cesar Carrasco is currently offline  Cesar Carrasco   United States
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Lets see some pics.....

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Peter Garry wrote:

> I used FRP (fibre reinforced plastic) and it worked very successfully.
> Wish I had kept the old panels as panels. One side had a “bubble” finish so
> I used the back (it was smooth) and painted it with krylon.
> Its now smooth and hard. Sound deadening it is not. For the joints I made
> a shallow wood cove with a strip of LEDs hidden in it. The centre portion
> of the ceiling I sprayed with a texture, the idea being to have the LEDs in
> the cove shine out along the ceiling. Gives the appearance of ‘depth’. An
> old interior design trick. Anyway in spite of my lack of 'fitting skills’
> it looks quite good.
> For Insulation I left the old factory stuff in place and sprayed the space
> full with foam. Took some time to scrape the excess down, but it all got
> done.
> Peter Garry
> 73 - 23ft
> Calgary Alberta
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324026 is a reply to message #324024] Tue, 19 September 2017 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/search.php?searchid=331185

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> Lets see some pics.....
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324033 is a reply to message #323982] Tue, 19 September 2017 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used FRP from Depot or Lowes, It comes in polar white or off white. I used the while, and put the textured side facing out. This helps to break up any irregularities or anything else you may see looking from one end to the other.
Its water proof so it wont stain, its easy to clean.
Provided its not frozen its easy to cut with tin snips or a fine tooth band saw if you have a helper.

Use the old panels which come out as your templates for the new panels That will save you many hours of adjustments. The aluminum channels on the edges will actually hold the sheet in place and provided you cut them correctly they will bow up and basically hold themselves up long enough to put a pop rivet or two in them.

I used V 47 Cap and Retainer from Nuddo Company as recommended by another GMCer. It worked awesome. Put the retainer in, pop rivet in a few spaces and then once two panels are butted together you put the snap the cap on top of it. Nice clean look, covers all the rivets and holds everything tight. Nice stuff and it matches the color.

As long as you like white, there is no need for glue, paint etc. and Yes, this can be a one person job with some patience. Lastly. Start at the rear of the coach with the new panels and work forward to the cap. If the cap has yellowed, Krylon White Fusion is a perfect match.

Its a rewarding job once its done.


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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324035 is a reply to message #324033] Tue, 19 September 2017 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mines a little different.
I used aluminum. Like the kind used to skin enclosed trailers. I didn't like the textured side of frp and the non textured side is not flat or even at all would have driven me crazy haha.
http://www.thegmcrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/wp-1464481165203.jpg

http://www.thegmcrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMG_20170713_081652.jpg


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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324036 is a reply to message #324035] Tue, 19 September 2017 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cesar Carrasco is currently offline  Cesar Carrasco   United States
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Justin, do you have pics?

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Justin Brady wrote:

> Mines a little different.
> I used aluminum. Like the kind used to skin enclosed trailers. I didn't
> like the textured side of frp and the non textured side is not flat or even
> at
> all would have driven me crazy haha.
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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324037 is a reply to message #324036] Tue, 19 September 2017 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Brady is currently offline  Justin Brady   United States
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Cesar,
I always forget to post them in non forum format as well as img tags. My apologies!

http://www.thegmcrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/wp-1464481165203.jpg

http://www.thegmcrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMG_20170713_081652.jpg


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Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #324047 is a reply to message #323982] Tue, 19 September 2017 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Here its what I used:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4446-new-ceilings-or-headliner.html

Adds R3 insulation.


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