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[GMCnet] New Air coolent [message #323233] Sat, 02 September 2017 22:46 Go to next message
Jane Field is currently offline  Jane Field   United States
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What do you have to do to change from R-12 to another coolent?
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Re: [GMCnet] New Air coolent [message #323242 is a reply to message #323233] Sun, 03 September 2017 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Go to auto store of your choice and purchase R-134 adapters for your R-12 fittings. They just screw on the OEM fittings. Remove old coolant and pull a vacuum. If adding HC12a, oil in A-6 is okay with it. If you are using R-134, the oil must be changed to be compatible with R-134.
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Re: [GMCnet] New Air coolent [message #323244 is a reply to message #323242] Sun, 03 September 2017 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Add 2 cans of duracool and move on


On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 4:55 AM Thomas Phipps wrote:

> Go to auto store of your choice and purchase R-134 adapters for your R-12
> fittings. They just screw on the OEM fittings. Remove old coolant and pull a
> vacuum. If adding HC12a, oil in A-6 is okay with it. If you are using
> R-134, the oil must be changed to be compatible with R-134.
> Others may add better methods.
> Tom, MS II
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Re: [GMCnet] New Air coolent [message #323245 is a reply to message #323233] Sun, 03 September 2017 08:23 Go to previous message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Jane Field wrote on Sat, 02 September 2017 23:46
What do you have to do to change from R-12 to another coolent?

Jane,

If the system still has any pressure in it, it will not need to be evacuated. You can just refill with HC-12a (aka Duracool). I have had some personal success at partial HC-12 fills. (Someplace out there a purist instructor is slitting his wrists.) It is that compatible with R-12.

Unless you already have a small box full of confusing fittings, just put on the R-134 conversion adapters and get an R-134 service manifold (set of gauges - 45$ at Hazard Fright) and get the low side up to 25psig with the engine at about 1500.

If you decide to change to R-134 (which is due to be phased out before 2030), you have to add the new oil. There is supposed to be available a conversion oil that both is miscible with R-134 (the mineral oil in the system is not) and it is also supposed to keep the PAG oil from attacking the existing seals.

Matt


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