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| [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323199] |
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USAussie
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Gday,
I have been in contact with my Mates in Houston via email, text messages; and phone calls and can advise that none of them have been
flooded out of their homes.
The storage facilities where John Sharpe, John Trellue, and I keep our GMCs did not flood either. I believe the same goes for Scott
Nutter.
I watch PBSs program The News Hour and am proud to be a part time (naturalized) Texan as the way people in Houston have come
together to help each other is AWESOME! PBS reported that over 3000 had volunteered to help; they reported that so many they had to
turn them away.
This is humanity at its finest!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323212 is a reply to message #323199] |
Sat, 02 September 2017 19:58  |
Richard Denney
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I'm glad your stuff didn't suffer inundation. My family had water in the
house, but not in excess of their preparations, so the damage was minimal
and much less than expected. In fact, they had about the same amount of
water as in the Tax Day flood of last year, and less than the flood of the
year before and much less than during Allison in 2001. This is the fourth
time they have flooded in that house since 1955, though street flooding is
rather routine. During the storm, they were taking refuge, safe and dry, in
a sturdy hotel.
I particularly liked the message painted on the plywood one family had used
to board up their windows: "Harvey: Bring It." That's the Houston attitude.
And even though there are thousands that are suffering severe damage and
worse, Houston is a resilient city. The worst damage is in the Addicks and
Barker dam flood plains (those dammed flood-control reservoirs filled up
and topped, and they are having to release them rather quicker than those
downstream really want), and along the larger rivers (the San Jacinto, on
the east side of Houston, and the Trinity some miles easy of that--both
empty into Galveston Bay), and close to the bigger bayous suffered worse
than most residents.
Just some official flood totals, which I gathered from the Harris County
Flood Control District's Flood Warning System: Rainfall for the whole storm
event ranged from the upper 20 inches to about 45 inches in Harris County.
The nearest rain gauges to the west-side neighborhood where I grew up
received 30 inches. These totals are spread over five days, with over 90%
of it coming in the first three days. The previous worst rainfall I can
recall is from Allison, which was never more than a tropical storm but
which did like Harvey and meandered back and forth for several days right
over the Houston area. In that one, the gauges in that area received about
22 inches of rain over three days, much of it in a 24-hour period.
The only other Category 4+ hurricane I can recall was Carla, in 1961, which
had high (170mph at landfall) winds and a large size, but which moved
relatively quickly. It was still a formidable storm in Canada, but dropped
about 15 inches of rain on Houston, or less. It landed very close to where
Harvey landed. We had 100 mph winds at the house for that one. The other
big wind storm I can recall is Hurricane Alicia, in 1982. which was a
direct hit on Houston, and the only time the eye of a hurricane has passed
over the family home. It was a smaller storm, and winds were a little over
100 mph. I lived in Austin at the time, and filled up my pickup truck with
chainsaws and generators and drove to Houston, selling them to friends and
family for what I had paid. Alicia was also more about wind than floods.
I don't know if it was harder to carry wet carpet out of their house in
2015 or clear 1000 feet of driveway from three feet of snow from our big
storm two years ago. But the snowstorm didn't require us to buy all new
stuff.
Rick "the national news is exaggerating it a bit but it was bad enough for
all that" Denney
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> G’day,
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> I have been in contact with my Mates in Houston via email, text messages;
> and phone calls and can advise that none of them have been
> flooded out of their homes.
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> The storage facilities where John Sharpe, John Trellue, and I keep our
> GMC’s did not flood either. I believe the same goes for Scott
> Nutter.
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> I watch PBS’s program The News Hour and am proud to be a part time
> (naturalized) Texan as the way people in Houston have come
> together to help each other is AWESOME! PBS reported that over 3000 had
> volunteered to help; they reported that so many they had to
> turn them away.
>
>
>
> This is humanity at it’s finest!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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| Re: [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323216 is a reply to message #323212] |
Sat, 02 September 2017 20:32 |
Scott Nutter
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Syd and I stayed dry. Although the water came to within about 5 feet of elevation from the doors. We did loose the boat for a couple of days, but it found its way back!
Storage where I keep the GMC was bone dry the whole time. That was our escape plan.
A toronado wiped out a marina 1/4 mile from us..... we were lucky.
Now a couple final issues, and we will be headed towards Elkhart!!
Scott
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323223 is a reply to message #323216] |
Sat, 02 September 2017 21:48 |
Ken Henderson
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Rick & Scott,
Sure glad to hear yours & you came thru OK. We were worried. Imagine, we
though 15" in 24 hours was bad in '94 in Americus -- and it's hilly! Just
a shower for Houston, huh?
Ken H.
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Scott Nutter wrote:
> Syd and I stayed dry. Although the water came to within about 5 feet of
> elevation from the doors. We did loose the boat for a couple of days, but it
> found its way back!
> Storage where I keep the GMC was bone dry the whole time. That was our
> escape plan.
> A toronado wiped out a marina 1/4 mile from us..... we were lucky.
>
> Now a couple final issues, and we will be headed towards Elkhart!!
> Scott
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| Re: [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323227 is a reply to message #323223] |
Sat, 02 September 2017 22:17 |
Richard Denney
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15" in 24 hours is a lot of rain anywhere. Hills make the drainage go fast,
and fast water does more damage than slow water.
Rick "recalling the Memorial Day floods in hilly Austin in 1981" Denney
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Rick & Scott,
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> Sure glad to hear yours & you came thru OK. We were worried. Imagine, we
> though 15" in 24 hours was bad in '94 in Americus -- and it's hilly! Just
> a shower for Houston, huh?
>
> Ken H.
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> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Scott Nutter
> wrote:
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>> Syd and I stayed dry. Although the water came to within about 5 feet of
>> elevation from the doors. We did loose the boat for a couple of days,
> but it
>> found its way back!
>> Storage where I keep the GMC was bone dry the whole time. That was our
>> escape plan.
>> A toronado wiped out a marina 1/4 mile from us..... we were lucky.
>>
>> Now a couple final issues, and we will be headed towards Elkhart!!
>> Scott
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| Re: [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323239 is a reply to message #323199] |
Sun, 03 September 2017 02:40 |
Ken Burton
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The mother and daughter that stopped by my place in their GMC to get their generator fixed were headed to the Houston - Galveston area before the storm hit. They never made it there because I took too long to fix the generator from hell. The daughter has been in constant contact with their relatives east of Houston and it is not good news for them and their surrounding community. They are still flooded in badly with lots of material and housing loss and damage.
The daughter is putting together an immediate and long term relief effort for that area specifically.
There will be more to come here as she gets it organized. I would rather she tell you what she is doing and what they need rather than get the information second hand and possibly incorrect from me.
All is not good outside of the city of Houston. Unfortunately most of the news coverage and relief efforts have been around Houston. I am not stating anything political just the facts as I know them second hand.
This is not over by any means, a lot of people are hurting real bad and will for a long time to come. We need to support them now and help them long after the news media have moved on.
I have more information but prefer to not get in the way of, or cause a problems to her efforts. So I prefer she release what is pertinent and will post it here. I have seen her at work and the things she in getting done changes by the hour. She is very tenacious person and I'm convinced she will get it done to help some of these people.
When she gets together the entire plan we need to support her efforts.
I do not usually get involved with things like this but in this case I am supporting her efforts 100% and will be contacting some of our community for ideas and support.
I posted this tonight, without her approval, because the tone of this thread is that things are not bad. That is great news that most of the GMCers are making it through OK, but there are still a lot of people out there that have lost everything and need our support.
BTW, a flight of five marine heavy lift helicopters stopped by my airport today to refuel on the way to the area. The pilots think they will be lifting off of ships and dropping direct on some of the targeted areas.
Ken Burton
in dry North - Western Indiana
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323253 is a reply to message #323251] |
Sun, 03 September 2017 11:30 |
Ken Burton
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We get a lot of military stopping for refuel. I'm not sure why. Most are Illinois or Indiana Army National Guard. We use to get a lot of Air Force A-10's and C-130's. I'm not sure why they come other than there is easy in and out air traffic control access and they do not need to put up with the hassle of Chicago ATC.
Two days ago we had 3 Army helicopters in. I did not go near the terminal to see what they were doing. I was about 1/2 to 3/4 mile away and very busy at the time. I think they were Army Air Guard because the hung around doing take offs, hovers, and landings for about an hour. They did not appear to be enroute anywhere.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323263 is a reply to message #323255] |
Sun, 03 September 2017 14:48 |
Ken Burton
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I'm out at the airport now. Another Marine helicopter just landed to refuel. He is part of the same group and is going the same place as yesterday. I was surprised to see this one was a converted Huey UH1Y with an extended fuselage and larger engine. It reminds me if my Veitnam days only this one is higher power and longer. It had a crew of 4 and he said he could carry 8 fully equipped Marines on it. It also had a huge spot light on it. .
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323345 is a reply to message #323199] |
Mon, 04 September 2017 19:43 |
kingd
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Ken, was what you thought was an extended Huey
actually the Miltary version of a Bell 412 ?
We call them Griffons in Canada. Looks like a big Huey.
Iknow a bit about floods.
In Toronto 4 years ago we got 5 inches of rain in less than
6 hours. Me and more than six thousand households got
Flooded.Sewage and rain water. Took a year to settle
With the insurance Co.
At least things were dried outbefore we refinished the basement
I can't imagine the damage the amount of rain Houston
Got would do.
DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: [GMCnet] Houston Floods [message #323382 is a reply to message #323199] |
Tue, 05 September 2017 09:57 |
kingd
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Ken, nope YOU are correct.
The "Y" is 10 years newer than the Griffon that was developed for Canada by Bell
and from the specs is the helicopter the Griffon could/should have been,
There is dissatisfaction with the Griffon as being underpowered in hot conditions
DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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