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I need plumbing advice? [message #322706] Sat, 26 August 2017 22:04 Go to next message
GMC Jimmy is currently offline  GMC Jimmy   Canada
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Hello All, I hope everyone is having a nice summer.

I'm closing in on the completion of my interior renovation - 1975 Coahmen built 26' Royale, dry bath with shower unit.

I am in the process of re-doing the bathroom.

After running the main sink (front lounge) for a few minutes I noticed a fair bit of water leaking onto the floor, it appeared to be coming from the area below the bathroom shower.

When I run the water in the main sink for 2 - 3 minutes I hear a gurgling sound in the bathroom and shortly thereafter I see the water coming up into the shower through the drain, it drains slowly after turning the running water off.

I disconnected and removed the P-trap from under the shower, cleaned it up and re-fit it, tried running the water again and still water backs up into the shower, but no more leaking on the shop floor.

It sounds as though the gurgling sound may indicate a venting issue?

Tried to snake from the shower back with no change.

Tried snaking the vent pipes from the roof top down in case a nest or something else may have been causing a blockage, no change.

Because I'm re-doing the bathroom I decided to remove some of the ABS piping to allow better access to clear a possible blockage to the tank, no luck.

I'm not sure what else I can try to address this issue, it seems to be caused by the water flow being restricted causing air flow to be reduced to the point when I hear the gurgling followed by water backing up into the shower area.

As always your ideas and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

Regards,
Mike



Re: [GMCnet] I need plumbing advice? [message #322708 is a reply to message #322706] Sat, 26 August 2017 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Are you sure that your holding tank is empty?

Mac Macdonald in OKC, OK
"The Money Pit"
'76 ex Palm Beach

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 26, 2017, at 22:05, Mike wrote:

Hello All, I hope everyone is having a nice summer.

I'm closing in on the completion of my interior renovation - 1975 Coahmen built 26' Royale, dry bath with shower unit.

I am in the process of re-doing the bathroom.

After running the main sink (front lounge) for a few minutes I noticed a fair bit of water leaking onto the floor, it appeared to be coming from the
area below the bathroom shower.

When I run the water in the main sink for 2 - 3 minutes I hear a gurgling sound in the bathroom and shortly thereafter I see the water coming up into
the shower through the drain, it drains slowly after turning the running water off.

I disconnected and removed the P-trap from under the shower, cleaned it up and re-fit it, tried running the water again and still water backs up into
the shower, but no more leaking on the shop floor.

It sounds as though the gurgling sound may indicate a venting issue?

Tried to snake from the shower back with no change.

Tried snaking the vent pipes from the roof top down in case a nest or something else may have been causing a blockage, no change.

Because I'm re-doing the bathroom I decided to remove some of the ABS piping to allow better access to clear a possible blockage to the tank, no
luck.

I'm not sure what else I can try to address this issue, it seems to be caused by the water flow being restricted causing air flow to be reduced to the
point when I hear the gurgling followed by water backing up into the shower area.

As always your ideas and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

Regards,
Mike





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Re: [GMCnet] I need plumbing advice? [message #322710 is a reply to message #322708] Sat, 26 August 2017 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Go to the outside access cover and remove the inside cover and then you'll
see the leak.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 8:11 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
wrote:

> Are you sure that your holding tank is empty?
>
> Mac Macdonald in OKC, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> '76 ex Palm Beach
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 26, 2017, at 22:05, Mike wrote:
>
> Hello All, I hope everyone is having a nice summer.
>
> I'm closing in on the completion of my interior renovation - 1975 Coahmen
> built 26' Royale, dry bath with shower unit.
>
> I am in the process of re-doing the bathroom.
>
> After running the main sink (front lounge) for a few minutes I noticed a
> fair bit of water leaking onto the floor, it appeared to be coming from the
> area below the bathroom shower.
>
> When I run the water in the main sink for 2 - 3 minutes I hear a gurgling
> sound in the bathroom and shortly thereafter I see the water coming up into
> the shower through the drain, it drains slowly after turning the running
> water off.
>
> I disconnected and removed the P-trap from under the shower, cleaned it up
> and re-fit it, tried running the water again and still water backs up into
> the shower, but no more leaking on the shop floor.
>
> It sounds as though the gurgling sound may indicate a venting issue?
>
> Tried to snake from the shower back with no change.
>
> Tried snaking the vent pipes from the roof top down in case a nest or
> something else may have been causing a blockage, no change.
>
> Because I'm re-doing the bathroom I decided to remove some of the ABS
> piping to allow better access to clear a possible blockage to the tank, no
> luck.
>
> I'm not sure what else I can try to address this issue, it seems to be
> caused by the water flow being restricted causing air flow to be reduced to
> the
> point when I hear the gurgling followed by water backing up into the
> shower area.
>
> As always your ideas and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: I need plumbing advice? [message #322721 is a reply to message #322706] Sun, 27 August 2017 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMC Jimmy is currently offline  GMC Jimmy   Canada
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Mac, first thing I did was empty the tank, it was clear and not much in there as it was cleaned out last October just prior to my purchase and not used since then.

Jim, which leak are you referring to, there doesn't appear to be any continued leaking after removing, cleaning and re-fitting the P-trap under the shower area which was the suspected leak area... can you provide a photo of the outside cover for reference?

Do these symptoms suggest a blockage somewhere or does this sound like a vent issue or something else?

Any other ideas?

Thanks for your input fellows,

Mike

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Re: I need plumbing advice? [message #322731 is a reply to message #322706] Sun, 27 August 2017 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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Plumbing cant be that
Complicated.

To me, it has to be blockage of drain or vent. Unless being a coachman, the pipe enters tank stupidly and it cant handle volume?? Are you flushing normal amount of shower water? Does it drain eventually

Shove a garden hose down the vent pipe and flush that out for sure to the tank drain.

Then you will know the vent path is good.



Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: I need plumbing advice? [message #322741 is a reply to message #322706] Sun, 27 August 2017 12:21 Go to previous message
GMC Jimmy is currently offline  GMC Jimmy   Canada
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Thanks Jon, I do have a Coachmen built Royale, however, looks like I have two tanks, one for black and grey.

I will try the hose down the vent pipe and see what happens.

Thanks for the input,
Mike
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