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Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #322999 is a reply to message #322987] Wed, 30 August 2017 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SpookyEng is currently offline  SpookyEng   United States
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The coach has an electromotive Tec2 fuel injection and ignition system. They make an ignition control only box as well, uses a 60-2 crank trigger wheel. My system runs great but is no longer supported. I am considering my replacement options while it still runs great. This is their ignition system http:// www.ebay.com/itm/Electromotive-XDI-8-Cylinder-Complete-Distributorless-Ignition-package-/311863507134?hash=item489c8378be:g:ODMAAOSw~y9ZC6i6&vxp=m tr

Kosier wrote on Wed, 30 August 2017 11:14
Please tell me more about the crank triggered ignition. I'm working on
designing a crank triggered ignition for both the Cadillac and Olds.
It's slow going, because my body can't get the things done that my mind can
promote. LOL

Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:07 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup

> The coach has crank triggered ignition and the timing is set on the
> laptop. I would like a more OEM pulley style setup as appearance is not
> important
> and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if anyone had
> tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else might
> have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I
> figured this would make a good winter project.
>
> Kosier wrote on Tue, 29 August 2017 20:14
>> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about
>> trying
>> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
>> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that
>> concoction.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>>> As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will
>>> ask
>>> Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>>
>>
>>
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>
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> 1978 Royale-455
> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>
> Navarre, FL
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Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323001 is a reply to message #322992] Wed, 30 August 2017 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Jim,

I'm not on the cruise with you guys, however, I'd say quite a few of the guys on the GMCnet are "in the same boat!" ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Gary, if you think it is bad today, just wait a few years. (Grin) Jim Hupy presently in Vienna, Austria with 50 or so of our GMC
Friends. On a river cruise.

On Aug 30, 2017 9:15 AM, "Gary Kosier" wrote:

> Please tell me more about the crank triggered ignition. I'm working on
> designing a crank triggered ignition for both the Cadillac and Olds.
> It's slow going, because my body can't get the things done that my mind
> can promote. LOL
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>


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Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323014 is a reply to message #322999] Wed, 30 August 2017 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Interesting! Those coils are the GM Waste Coils as used on a bunch of
vehicles. My concoction is based on the ignition control module
with those coils as used on the 93-99 Cadillac Northstar. Since that motor
becomes an unserviceable lump at about 100k miles, the
modules become readily available in the men's mall. It does require a GM
ECM to provide an advance protocol. Obviously, the EBL
conversion normally used in the GMC conversion to EFI. I should add that
one of my sources has it working with MegaSquirt EFI.
I am going to try to have a show-and-tell display at Elkhart if you're going
to be there.

Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:17 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup

> The coach has an electromotive Tec2 fuel injection and ignition system.
> They make an ignition control only box as well, uses a 60-2 crank trigger
> wheel. My system runs great but is no longer supported. I am considering
> my replacement options while it still runs great. This is there ignition
> system
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electromotive-XDI-8-Cylinder-Complete-Distributorless-Ignition-package-/311863507134?hash=item489c8378be:g:ODMAAOSw~y9ZC6i6&am p;vxp=mtr
>
> Kosier wrote on Wed, 30 August 2017 11:14
>> Please tell me more about the crank triggered ignition. I'm working on
>> designing a crank triggered ignition for both the Cadillac and Olds.
>> It's slow going, because my body can't get the things done that my mind
>> can
>> promote. LOL
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:07 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>>> The coach has crank triggered ignition and the timing is set on the
>>> laptop. I would like a more OEM pulley style setup as appearance is
>>> not
>>> important
>>> and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if anyone
>>> had
>>> tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else
>>> might
>>> have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I
>>> figured this would make a good winter project.
>>>
>>> Kosier wrote on Tue, 29 August 2017 20:14
>>>> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about
>>>> trying
>>>> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
>>>> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that
>>>> concoction.
>>>>
>>>> Gary Kosier
>>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>>> Newark, Ohio
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>>
>>>> > As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I
>>>> > will
>>>> > ask
>>>> > Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>
>>> Navarre, FL
>>>
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>
> Navarre, FL
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Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323025 is a reply to message #323014] Wed, 30 August 2017 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wish I could go but we can't make it this year. I have been looking at the MegaSquirt, Halltech and even the Fitech port injection. I hate the idea of going backwards to a throttle body setup. The coach runs great as is but if the ECU takes a dump I will be dead in the water without a replacement. I like the fact the coils are readily available and the tuning is flexible but frankly electromotive lost some key people and their tech support is lacking. If I get a newer version of their ECU I can just load up my Bin file and go. I am really looking at all possible options to keep port injection and run a modern ECU.

Kosier wrote on Wed, 30 August 2017 18:16
Interesting! Those coils are the GM Waste Coils as used on a bunch of
vehicles. My concoction is based on the ignition control module
with those coils as used on the 93-99 Cadillac Northstar. Since that motor
becomes an unserviceable lump at about 100k miles, the
modules become readily available in the men's mall. It does require a GM
ECM to provide an advance protocol. Obviously, the EBL
conversion normally used in the GMC conversion to EFI. I should add that
one of my sources has it working with MegaSquirt EFI.
I am going to try to have a show-and-tell display at Elkhart if you're going
to be there.

Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:17 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup

> The coach has an electromotive Tec2 fuel injection and ignition system.
> They make an ignition control only box as well, uses a 60-2 crank trigger
> wheel. My system runs great but is no longer supported. I am considering
> my replacement options while it still runs great. This is there ignition
> system
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electromotive-XDI-8-Cylinder-Complete-Distributorless-Ignition-package-/311863507134?hash=item489c8378be:g:ODMAAOSw~y9ZC6i6&am p;am p;vxp=mtr
>
> Kosier wrote on Wed, 30 August 2017 11:14
>> Please tell me more about the crank triggered ignition. I'm working on
>> designing a crank triggered ignition for both the Cadillac and Olds.
>> It's slow going, because my body can't get the things done that my mind
>> can
>> promote. LOL
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:07 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>>> The coach has crank triggered ignition and the timing is set on the
>>> laptop. I would like a more OEM pulley style setup as appearance is
>>> not
>>> important
>>> and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if anyone
>>> had
>>> tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else
>>> might
>>> have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I
>>> figured this would make a good winter project.
>>>
>>> Kosier wrote on Tue, 29 August 2017 20:14
>>>> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about
>>>> trying
>>>> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
>>>> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that
>>>> concoction.
>>>>
>>>> Gary Kosier
>>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>>> Newark, Ohio
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>>
>>>> > As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I
>>>> > will
>>>> > ask
>>>> > Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>
>>> Navarre, FL
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>
> --
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> 1978 Royale-455
> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>
> Navarre, FL
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323049 is a reply to message #323025] Thu, 31 August 2017 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kosier is currently offline  Kosier   United States
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If you already have a port injection manifold, I would recommend sticking to
all GM parts, where possible. The advantages are good quality,
ready supply of parts both new and used, cheap prices, and terrific support
from the GMCMH-EFI group. The EBL P4 conversion from
Dynamic EFI gives easy adjustability to your individual combination. And,
of course, it will support my concoction of distributorless ignition.
GM is going to be around for a long time and there is a wealth of
documentation on all their stuff.
More to come!

Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:11 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup

> I wish I could go but we can't make it this year. I have been looking at
> the MegaSquirt, Halltech and even the Fitech port injection. I hate the
> idea
> of going backwards to a throttle body setup. The coach runs great as is
> but if the ECU takes a dump I will be dead in the water without a
> replacement.
> I like the fact the coils are readily available and the tuning is flexible
> but frankly electromotive lost some key people and their tech support is
> lacking. If I get a newer version of their ECU I can just load up my Bin
> file and go. I am really looking at all possible options to keep port
> injection and run a modern ECU.
>
> Kosier wrote on Wed, 30 August 2017 18:16
>> Interesting! Those coils are the GM Waste Coils as used on a bunch of
>> vehicles. My concoction is based on the ignition control module
>> with those coils as used on the 93-99 Cadillac Northstar. Since that
>> motor
>> becomes an unserviceable lump at about 100k miles, the
>> modules become readily available in the men's mall. It does require a GM
>> ECM to provide an advance protocol. Obviously, the EBL
>> conversion normally used in the GMC conversion to EFI. I should add that
>> one of my sources has it working with MegaSquirt EFI.
>> I am going to try to have a show-and-tell display at Elkhart if you're
>> going
>> to be there.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:17 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>>> The coach has an electromotive Tec2 fuel injection and ignition
>>> system.
>>> They make an ignition control only box as well, uses a 60-2 crank
>>> trigger
>>> wheel. My system runs great but is no longer supported. I am
>>> considering
>>> my replacement options while it still runs great. This is there
>>> ignition
>>> system
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electromotive-XDI-8-Cylinder-Complete-Distributorless-Ignition-package-/311863507134?hash=item489c8378be:g:ODMAAOSw~y9ZC6i6&am p;am
>>> p;am p;vxp=mtr
>>>
>>> Kosier wrote on Wed, 30 August 2017 11:14
>>>> Please tell me more about the crank triggered ignition. I'm working
>>>> on
>>>> designing a crank triggered ignition for both the Cadillac and Olds.
>>>> It's slow going, because my body can't get the things done that my
>>>> mind
>>>> can
>>>> promote. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Gary Kosier
>>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>>> Newark, Ohio
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:07 PM
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>>
>>>> > The coach has crank triggered ignition and the timing is set on the
>>>> > laptop. I would like a more OEM pulley style setup as appearance
>>>> > is
>>>> > not
>>>> > important
>>>> > and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if
>>>> > anyone
>>>> > had
>>>> > tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else
>>>> > might
>>>> > have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I
>>>> > figured this would make a good winter project.
>>>> >
>>>> > Kosier wrote on Tue, 29 August 2017 20:14
>>>> >> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think
>>>> >> about
>>>> >> trying
>>>> >> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
>>>> >> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that
>>>> >> concoction.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Gary Kosier
>>>> >> 77PB w/500Cad
>>>> >> Newark, Ohio
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> >> From: "Jdlisenby@hotmail.com"
>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
>>>> >> To:
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I
>>>> >> > will
>>>> >> > ask
>>>> >> > Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>>> > 1978 Royale-455
>>>> > Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>> >
>>>> > Navarre, FL
>>>> >
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>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>
>>> Navarre, FL
>>>
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>
> Navarre, FL
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Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323050 is a reply to message #323049] Thu, 31 August 2017 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my previous owner Bobby Moore installed a serpentine belt setup on my coach .i dont know much about it . i took some photos yesterday but it is difficult to get good shots i posted them in the gmc photo page if searching for them use serpintine i spelt it wrong http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/mechanical/p63657-serpintine-belt.html

Trevor Brisbane Australia Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores) 71 Cadillac Eldo Convert 58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323052 is a reply to message #323050] Thu, 31 August 2017 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Trevor,
Bobby was a very creative person and had many different projects on his coach each year. First met him in 1999 and the Myrtle Beach GMCMI spring convention.

JR Wright
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GMCGL Tech Editor
GMCMI
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1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan


> On Aug 31, 2017, at 3:29 PM, Trevor Pordage wrote:
>
> my previous owner Bobby Moore installed a serpentine belt setup on my coach .i dont know much about it . i took some photos yesterday but it is
> difficult to get good shots i posted them in the gmc photo page if searching for them use serpintine i spelt it wrong
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/mechanical/p63657-serpintine-belt.html
> --
> Trevor
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> 71 Cadillac Eldo Convert
> 58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
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Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323054 is a reply to message #323050] Thu, 31 August 2017 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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It's my understanding that Bobby and JR Slaten developed that serpentine
system together. Bobby gave me the 3rd set they made. There seem to be
some differences between Trevor's set and mine, but then I made some
changes myself so they may have been identical earlier. That engine and
belts are on the engine in my son's coach, so one day maybe I'll get a
chance to make photos of it to post. I must say that it's performed
flawlessly for maybe 70,000 miles, even running the OEM-style Water Pump
backward.

I did have some WP problems not long before I installed the Cad 500, but
they were all occurred while I was testing protypes of Leigh Harrison's
reverse flow design. The final version of that is still hanging on my
storeroom wall, unused. That was before the 350 diesel reverse flow pump
was discovered. When the last prototype failed on me, I installed an Auto
Zone severe duty pump, without even improving the flow pattern as I'd done
previously. My son's probably put 15-20,000 SE USA miles on that with no
overheating problems.

I still think a simpler system, using two serpentine belts, can be made for
very little cost -- I haven't yet seen Gary K's version.

Ken H


On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Trevor Pordage
wrote:

> my previous owner Bobby Moore installed a serpentine belt setup on my
> coach .i dont know much about it . i took some photos yesterday but it is
> difficult to get good shots i posted them in the gmc photo page if
> searching for them use serpintine i spelt it wrong
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/mechanical/p63657-serpintine-belt.html
> --
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323056 is a reply to message #323050] Thu, 31 August 2017 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Trevor,

Thanks, Mate!

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808

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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Trevor Pordage
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup

my previous owner Bobby Moore installed a serpentine belt setup on my coach .i dont know much about it . i took some photos
yesterday but it is difficult to get good shots i posted them in the gmc photo page if searching for them use serpintine i spelt it
wrong

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/mechanical/p63657-serpintine-belt.html
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Trevor


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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323279 is a reply to message #323052] Mon, 04 September 2017 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cadelec is currently offline  cadelec   Australia
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i am discovering how creative bobby moore was there are lots of little extras. when i first got the coach i noticed how all the slots in the screws are in vertical alignment as well as the crosses in the phillip head screws are all in the same orientation . this indicates to me how much thought he put into everything

Trevor Brisbane Australia Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores) 71 Cadillac Eldo Convert 58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323280 is a reply to message #323279] Mon, 04 September 2017 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Trevor,

How 'bout that electric parking brake? Previously an electric seat
adjuster, IIRC. :-)

Bobby was the very first GMCer we met in '98. We attended our first GMC
rally at Lake Lanier Islands, GA in our 40' diesel pusher before getting
the GMC road-ready. We were parked well away from the GMC's and
encountered the Moore's enroute to the "rest of the crowd". It took a
couple of hours to get to the "rest of the crowd". Our friendship grew
continuously from then until he passed away; I learned a LOT from him.

Ken H.


On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:26 AM, Trevor Pordage
wrote:

> i am discovering how creative bobby moore was there are lots of little
> extras. when i first got the coach i noticed how all the slots in the screws
> are in vertical alignment as well as the crosses in the phillip head
> screws are all in the same orientation . this indicates to me how much
> thought he
> put into everything
> --
> Trevor
> Brisbane Australia
> Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores)
> 71 Cadillac Eldo Convert
> 58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323314 is a reply to message #323280] Mon, 04 September 2017 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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unfortunately ken that parking brake was no longer in operation when i got the coach it had standard calipers on the rear wheels and all the parking brake cable was gone the seat adjuster is still there . this is one of my problems as to register here i need a working park brake i am in the process of converting the rear wheel set back to drums and Rob . M has brought a handbrake lever and front cable back from the states


Trevor Brisbane Australia Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores) 71 Cadillac Eldo Convert 58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup [message #323346 is a reply to message #323314] Mon, 04 September 2017 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Trevor,

You may want to consider keeping the seat adjuster to pull the parking
brake cable. That setup was a lot more effective than the hand lever when
Bobby had it working. I'm sure there are photos somewhere of that, or a
similar, setup if you can't figure out how it worked. That's assuming the
law down there only cares if it works, not how.

Ken H.


On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Trevor Pordage
wrote:

> unfortunately ken that parking brake was no longer in operation when i got
> the coach it had standard calipers on the rear wheels and all the parking
> brake cable was gone the seat adjuster is still there . this is one of my
> problems as to register here i need a working park brake i am in the process
> of converting the rear wheel set back to drums and Rob . M has brought a
> handbrake lever and front cable back from the states
>
> --
> Trevor
> Brisbane Australia
> Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores)
> 71 Cadillac Eldo Convert
> 58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
>
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Re: Serpentine Belt setup [message #323403 is a reply to message #322689] Tue, 05 September 2017 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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"but frankly electromotive lost some key people and their tech support is lacking."

EMD? The fine folks who make Really Big gensets??? Electromotive Division?

--johnny


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Re: Serpentine Belt setup [message #323424 is a reply to message #323403] Tue, 05 September 2017 21:02 Go to previous message
SpookyEng is currently offline  SpookyEng   United States
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Not the same folks. These guys specialize in high performance engine controllers https://electromotive.com/contact-us/

Johnny Bridges wrote on Tue, 05 September 2017 14:02
"but frankly electromotive lost some key people and their tech support is lacking."

EMD? The fine folks who make Really Big gensets??? Electromotive Division?

--johnny



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