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Fri, 25 August 2017 15:53  |
Ronald Pottol
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So, dropping my coach at the tire shop for the first time, what do I tell
them?
If jack rather than lift, do the front from the center, not the sides.
Deflate the air bags as soon as the coach is supported by the lift.
Tell them the torque values for the lug nuts (150 for the 2 part Alcoa hub
centred wheels?).
Thanks,
Ron
1973 26' Redwood City, California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire shop instructions? [message #322642 is a reply to message #322641] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 16:15  |
werewilfs
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Don't forget about telling them about the torque sequence pattern for Alcoa wheels.
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/alcoa_wheels/
Jared Kohl
Rappahannock County, VA
73 Painted Desert "Onslow"
On Friday, August 25, 2017 04:54:01 PM EDT, Ronald Pottol wrote:
So, dropping my coach at the tire shop for the first time, what do I tell
them?
If jack rather than lift, do the front from the center, not the sides.
Deflate the air bags as soon as the coach is supported by the lift.
Tell them the torque values for the lug nuts (150 for the 2 part Alcoa hub
centred wheels?).
Thanks,
Ron
1973 26' Redwood City, California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire shop instructions? [message #322643 is a reply to message #322642] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 16:34 |
powerjon
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In the 18 years that I have had Alcoa wheels I never knew that there was a torque sequence for the wheels. I just used a star pattern in 2 stages and rechecked after first trip.
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> On Aug 25, 2017, at 5:15 PM, Jared Kohl wrote:
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> Don't forget about telling them about the torque sequence pattern for Alcoa wheels.
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/alcoa_wheels/
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> Jared Kohl
> Rappahannock County, VA
> 73 Painted Desert "Onslow"
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> On Friday, August 25, 2017 04:54:01 PM EDT, Ronald Pottol wrote:
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> So, dropping my coach at the tire shop for the first time, what do I tell
> them?
>
> If jack rather than lift, do the front from the center, not the sides.
>
> Deflate the air bags as soon as the coach is supported by the lift.
>
> Tell them the torque values for the lug nuts (150 for the 2 part Alcoa hub
> centred wheels?).
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
> 1973 26' Redwood City, California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire shop instructions? [message #322645 is a reply to message #322641] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 16:40 |
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USAussie
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Ron,
It more than likely they will change one wheel at a time; at least that's what the tire shop in Knoxville did when I brought them
the Kingsley.
I told them that they could put a floor jack under the center of the bogie to change the rear tires and under the lower control arms
to change the front tires.
I told them to raise the front just enough to get the tire off and back on and not to raise it any higher or risk cracking a $1000
plus windshield.
The torque for Alcoa lug nuts is stamped into the lug nuts; it is 140 ft lb. Have them use a torque wrench not an impact wrench with
torque stick.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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Subject: [GMCnet] Tire shop instructions?
So, dropping my coach at the tire shop for the first time, what do I tell
them?
If jack rather than lift, do the front from the center, not the sides.
Deflate the air bags as soon as the coach is supported by the lift.
Tell them the torque values for the lug nuts (150 for the 2 part Alcoa hub
centred wheels?).
Thanks,
Ron
1973 26' Redwood City, California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire shop instructions? [message #322648 is a reply to message #322641] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 17:57 |
Ken Henderson
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Ron,
Do be sure to tell them to deflate the air bags as soon as the jack under
the bogie (ONLY) takes the coach weight -- you'll probably have to show
them how. If you don't, and have Bilstein shocks, they may well be damaged
-- DO tell them that.
Do insist on a torque wrench being used for 140 ft-lbs on the lug nuts --
tightened in a star pattern.
Do SHOW them where to lift in the center of the main crossmember.
Ken H.
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| [GMCnet] ATTENTION [message #322650 is a reply to message #322648] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 18:08 |
WILLIS GUISE
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Attention,
We have been waiting for you to contact us for your International Certified Bank Draft worth 1,650,000.00 (One Million, Six Hundred and Fifty Thousand United States Dollars), being compensation fund for 150 scammed victims, but I did not hear from you all this while. I have deposited the International Certified Bank Draft with Central Courier service, West Africa.
I traveled out of the country for a 3 Months Course and I will not be back until completion of my 3 months course. What you have to do now is to contact the Central Courier Service immediately to know when they will deliver your parcel to you because of the demurrage date from the day of deposit.
For your information, I have paid for the delivery Charge, and Clearance Certificate Fee of the parcel showing that it is not a Drug Money or meant to sponsor Terrorists attack in your Country. Central Courier Service will be delivering your International Certified Bank Draft direct to your address in your country with the sum of $470USD United States Dollars being Security Keeping Fee of the Courier Company so far. Again, don't be deceived by anybody to pay any other money except $470USD United states dollars. I would have paid that but they refused, because they don't know when you will contact them and in case of demurrage.
You have to contact the Central Courier Service now for the delivery of your International Certified Bank Draft with this information below:
Contact Agent: John Carter
Email Address: centralcour@gmail.com
Your full information will be required from you
Request for the tracking number of the parcel to enable you track and know when it will get to your address. Let me repeat again, try to contact them immediately you receive this mail to avoid any further delay and remember to pay the Security Keeping fee of $470 USD united state dollars for their immediate action. You should also let me know through email as soon as you receive your parcel.
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| Re: [GMCnet] ATTENTION [message #322653 is a reply to message #322650] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 18:45 |
Steve Jess
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Looks like we can afford ALL the upgrades now!
Steve Jess - Tucson, AZ
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Arizona Public Media
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Subject: [GMCnet] ATTENTION
Attention,
We have been waiting for you to contact us for your International Certified Bank Draft worth 1,650,000.00 (One Million, Six Hundred and Fifty Thousand United States Dollars), being compensation fund for 150 scammed victims, but I did not hear from you all this while. I have deposited the International Certified Bank Draft with Central Courier service, West Africa.
I traveled out of the country for a 3 Months Course and I will not be back until completion of my 3 months course. What you have to do now is to contact the Central Courier Service immediately to know when they will deliver your parcel to you because of the demurrage date from the day of deposit.
For your information, I have paid for the delivery Charge, and Clearance Certificate Fee of the parcel showing that it is not a Drug Money or meant to sponsor Terrorists attack in your Country. Central Courier Service will be delivering your International Certified Bank Draft direct to your address in your country with the sum of $470USD United States Dollars being Security Keeping Fee of the Courier Company so far. Again, don't be deceived by anybody to pay any other money except $470USD United states dollars. I would have paid that but they refused, because they don't know when you will contact them and in case of demurrage.
You have to contact the Central Courier Service now for the delivery of your International Certified Bank Draft with this information below:
Contact Agent: John Carter
Email Address: centralcour@gmail.com
Your full information will be required from you
Request for the tracking number of the parcel to enable you track and know when it will get to your address. Let me repeat again, try to contact them immediately you receive this mail to avoid any further delay and remember to pay the Security Keeping fee of $470 USD united state dollars for their immediate action. You should also let me know through email as soon as you receive your parcel.
Respectfully,
Sean Matthews
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire shop instructions? [message #322656 is a reply to message #322641] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 18:57 |
jhbridges
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I've been using the same tire shop for ~~30 odd years - second generation of the family runs it now. With their approval, I stand there and direct the tech on how to get the wheels off and on without damage. They're used to big aluminum wheel;s mounting and balancing, alls I do is direct lifting and lwering and bolt torque technique. Two tires a year, then take a three or four year time out and start over with the oldest.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire shop instructions? [message #322659 is a reply to message #322652] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 18:55 |
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Newbie question, can you inflate the air bags to max, block the pivot
point and release the air to change tires without jacking?
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Kingsley Coach
wrote:
> Ronald
> Do act like an old woman with a chip on her shoulder...tell everyone who
> will listen to the info above. Make an ass of yourself if necessary.
> It's your coach and your money...the tire shop really doesn't give a shi*
>
> Don't let them intimidate you !
>
> Be crazy if you want...and good luck!
>
> Mike in NS
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
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>> Ron,
>>
>> Do be sure to tell them to deflate the air bags as soon as the jack under
>> the bogie (ONLY) takes the coach weight -- you'll probably have to show
>> them how. If you don't, and have Bilstein shocks, they may well be
> damaged
>> -- DO tell them that.
>>
>> Do insist on a torque wrench being used for 140 ft-lbs on the lug nuts --
>> tightened in a star pattern.
>>
>> Do SHOW them where to lift in the center of the main crossmember.
>>
>> Ken H.
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> --
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
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> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire shop instructions? [message #322661 is a reply to message #322659] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 19:44 |
powerjon
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> On Aug 25, 2017, at 7:55 PM, John Phillips wrote:
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> n
> Newbie question, can you inflate the air bags to max, block the pivot
> point and release the air to change tires without jacking?
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Kingsley Coach
> wrote:
>
>> Ronald
>> Do act like an old woman with a chip on her shoulder...tell everyone who
>> will listen to the info above. Make an ass of yourself if necessary.
>> It's your coach and your money...the tire shop really doesn't give a shi*
>>
>> Don't let them intimidate you !
>>
>> Be crazy if you want...and good luck!
>>
>> Mike in NS
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Ken Henderson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> Do be sure to tell them to deflate the air bags as soon as the jack under
>>> the bogie (ONLY) takes the coach weight -- you'll probably have to show
>>> them how. If you don't, and have Bilstein shocks, they may well be
>> damaged
>>> -- DO tell them that.
>>>
>>> Do insist on a torque wrench being used for 140 ft-lbs on the lug nuts --
>>> tightened in a star pattern.
>>>
>>> Do SHOW them where to lift in the center of the main crossmember.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Beaton
>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>> Antigonish, NS
>>
>> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tire shop instructions? [message #322666 is a reply to message #322652] |
Fri, 25 August 2017 20:48 |
Ken Henderson
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Kelly,
Mike's right -- be assertive. I, personally, failed to do that at my last
tire purchase. During the Chippewa Falls Convention in the Fall of 2014, I
bought a set of tires at a local tire store. The professionalism of the
staff, including the individual who was working on my coach, caused me to
let my guard down. Only later, miles away, did I find that their "fine
equipment" had seriously marred the faces of all 6 of my Alcoas. Those
scars are still there, and always will be. They're too deep to possibly
polish out. I probably should have returned there and raised Cain, but
didn't; I'll just have to live with them and chalk it up as another lesson
learned.
Ken H.
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Kingsley Coach
wrote:
> Ronald
> Do act like an old woman with a chip on her shoulder...tell everyone who
> will listen to the info above. Make an ass of yourself if necessary.
> It's your coach and your money...the tire shop really doesn't give a shi*
>
> Don't let them intimidate you !
>
> Be crazy if you want...and good luck!
>
> Mike in NS
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Do be sure to tell them to deflate the air bags as soon as the jack under
>> the bogie (ONLY) takes the coach weight -- you'll probably have to show
>> them how. If you don't, and have Bilstein shocks, they may well be
> damaged
>> -- DO tell them that.
>>
>> Do insist on a torque wrench being used for 140 ft-lbs on the lug nuts --
>> tightened in a star pattern.
>>
>> Do SHOW them where to lift in the center of the main crossmember.
>>
>> Ken H.
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
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>
>
>
> --
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
>
> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
> _______________________________________________
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