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[GMCnet] FW: Brakes going soft - How long to wait / What to do? [message #322255 is a reply to message #322254] Thu, 17 August 2017 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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I'm not absolutely certain, but I have always thought it better to use intermittent, brief heavy braking and non-braking (to let brake shoes/pads cool down) which will then resist fade. Paying attention to traffic and slowing down prior to needing panic braking will also extend pad/shoe life. I think my 1999 GMC Sierra 2500 pickkup is still on its original pads and rotors after 175,000 plus miles.

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Do as Ken suggests sure sounds like moisture in the brake fluid to me. Had it happen to me in Kings canyon no joy when you loose your brakes on a down
grade. Use your trans to slow you down on steep grades or the brakes will get very hot.
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Re: [GMCnet] Brakes going soft - How long to wait / What to do? [message #322256 is a reply to message #322201] Thu, 17 August 2017 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peer, just a couple of tips on brake use on heavy vehicles with drum brakes
on steep downgrades.
1. Turn off the cruise control.
2. Make efficient use of the brakes by reading the posted downgrade signs.
If it says 6% grades for the next 3 miles, anticipate that you are going to
need some heavy braking. Reduce speed by applying moderate to heavy pedal
pressure before sharp curves and slow the vehicle to the posted curve
speed. If the grade is so steep that the coach constantly gains speed,
downshift into 2nd.
3. This is important ! Do not rest your foot on the brake pedal. This will
constantly heat the brakes and lead to fade. Apply the brakes enough to
slow the coach, then take your foot off the pedal. This will help cool the
brakes between uses.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
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On Aug 17, 2017 10:00 AM, "roy keen" wrote:

Do as Ken suggests sure sounds like moisture in the brake fluid to me. Had
it happen to me in Kings canyon no joy when you loose your brakes on a down
grade. Use your trans to slow you down on steep grades or the brakes will
get very hot.
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Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook

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Re: [GMCnet] Brakes going soft - How long to wait / What to do? [message #322258 is a reply to message #322256] Thu, 17 August 2017 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Brady is currently offline  Justin Brady   United States
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Peer I've found with my coach that even on the steepest grades if I slow to 45-50mph and shift down into super that the trans and engine will maintain speed with almost zero brake input.
As Jim said, quick firm braking when needed followed by letting off fully and I've had no trouble.


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Re: [GMCnet] FW: Brakes going soft - How long to wait / What to do? [message #322261 is a reply to message #322255] Thu, 17 August 2017 17:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The road coming down from big bear as I remember it was a 2 lane steep mountain grade definitely a 2nd gear road in my opinion with ample use of brakes.

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] FW: Brakes going soft - How long to wait / What to do? [message #322284 is a reply to message #322261] Thu, 17 August 2017 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This has been discussed back in 1980 and the consensus was to not ride the
brake but pull the speed down and let it pick up again.
I know it is hard to do when there are heavy traffic.
Also first chance you get drive it in reverse and firmly apply the brake
forward and back to reset your rear drum brakes. Yes, the self adjusters
should work.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:10 PM, roy keen wrote:

> The road coming down from big bear as I remember it was a 2 lane steep
> mountain grade definitely a 2nd gear road in my opinion with ample use of
> brakes.
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> Minden,NV
> 76 X Glenbrook
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Re: [GMCnet] Brakes going soft - How long to wait / What to do? [message #322297 is a reply to message #322201] Fri, 18 August 2017 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Use the transmission S on 4-5-6% grades at about 45 MPH. The brakes are used only in short applys to prevent over speeding the engine. On steeper grades you may need 1st. If allready above 35 do a brief firm apply to get the speed down, then go from S to 1. Again use brakes only to prevent engine overspeeding. You can't hold a GMC back on a long grade using brakes alone. Also those high temps are bad for wheel bearing grease and can glaze linings and warp rotating parts. Using higher test fluid just moves the problem to a higher temp, making it worse for lubricants and brake parts.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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Re: [GMCnet] FW: Brakes going soft - How long to wait / What to do? [message #322303 is a reply to message #322284] Fri, 18 August 2017 10:09 Go to previous message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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I was in Yellowstone driving the switchbacks in 2nd, maybe 1st, in my old Class C. All engine braking. Rarely touched the brakes.

There was a long line of cars behind me.

I was feeling pretty guilty.

We came to a 2 lane passing zone and I kept going slow so they could pass. NO ONE passed me !

I felt better about going slow after that.

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Jim K said:
This has been discussed back in 1980 and the consensus was to not ride the
brake but pull the speed down and let it pick up again.
I know it is hard to do when there are heavy traffic.


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