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Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions [message #320607 is a reply to message #320525] |
Mon, 17 July 2017 17:54 |
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USAussie
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G'day,
I contacted Dan Stuckey regarding this question as he manufactures new frames; below you will find his response published with his
permission.
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Hi Rob
It's good to hear from you--hope you are well and prospering.
Re the frame, the traditional wisdom has been that you only jack a GMC up at the rear where the bogeys are attached. Lots of people
have used jacks on other places and you can easily tell that by the lower flange on the side rails being bent upward. The original
frames were mild steel .125" gauge and to be truthful (is there any other way?) I don't find much evidence that doing that has been
all that harmful--yeah, it looks bad but who sees it? I haven't had any of my clients tell me of results of jacking on any place
other than at the bogeys on my frames--I usually warn them to do any jacking only at the bogey brackets--but I would guess that
there wouldn't be much, if any, bending of the flanges if they jacked elsewhere--the rail material is visibly heavier stuff yet it
only adds a couple of hundred pounds to the total weight.
Frame rail set #39 just left my shop a couple of weeks ago. I have been using what we call in Canada a Class H steel that is heat
treated with about twice the tensile strength of the original spec and with a 50% heavier gauge at .188". All my most recent frames
have been galvanized with a process for the most extreme conditions--before that I sandblasted the brand new steel after all the
cutting, drilling, welding and then epoxy primed and painted everything. The galvanizing process is a little more expensive but
worth it, in my opinion. AMOF, I just took two front engine sub frames and one rear sub frame up to the galvanizer last Wed. The
engine sub frames are getting harder to find nowadays (I don't build them from scratch like the main frames) and I had to do some
metal surgery on them before galvanizing. With a fully galvanized frame--engine sub frame, mainframe, and rear sub frame, I think
you could leave your GMC with confidence to your great grandson in your will.
I hope this answers your question--it's probably more information than you wanted to hear.
On a personal note, I had back surgery in March and I'm not supposed to lift anything over 10 kilos--forever. How do you run a GMC
frame replacement business on that condition? The upshot of it all is that I have to get out of the business--know anyone who might
be interested? We're going to try and make it to the Elkhart International in Sept. and maybe make the GMC community aware of
what's happening on that account.
Best regards,
Dan
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Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 10:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions
"What we have here is a failure to communicate..." Or more correctly a difference in semantics. My take is the frame is obviously
adequate in that
the coaches have lasted this long. It is however much lighter than I'd like... it flexes and is easily bent. I am of the opinion
that GM chassis
engineers lightened it as much as possible. They were overloading the drive line roughly twice what it was originally intended fir
so they took out
what they could. I'd like to drive one of the reframed coaches to see how much a stiffer frame improves the handling, if any.
--johnny
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76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions [message #320626 is a reply to message #320617] |
Mon, 17 July 2017 20:38 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Dennis,
Well researched, thanks!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Sexton
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions
Frame changes by production year.
This old thread includes info by Bill Bryant on the frame specs
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=182405&rid=904&srch=Frame#msg_182405
Dennis
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Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions [message #320651 is a reply to message #320626] |
Tue, 18 July 2017 11:20 |
Hal StClair
Messages: 971 Registered: March 2013 Location: Rio Rancho NM
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Gee, just look at what a single adjective like 'flimsy'can do.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
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Re: New Owner Questions [message #320658 is a reply to message #320652] |
Tue, 18 July 2017 18:11 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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I thought those tape measures in the pictures, like radar detectors, were illegal in Canada. Do you only bring it out after dark when the metric police have gone home for the day? I sure hope they do not watch GMCnet.
Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: New Owner Questions [message #320686 is a reply to message #320425] |
Wed, 19 July 2017 20:05 |
SkyKingsley
Messages: 9 Registered: July 2017 Location: Kansas City, MO
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Hey all, sorry I've been swamped with work and haven't had time to write back. I can't believe the community you guys have here, I really appreciate the warm welcome and all the great info! I feel a lot better equipped to handle my first few items on the to do list. I'm going to attempt the fluid changes this week hopefully as I've got some time off, I'll let you all know how it goes. Also I feel a lot better about the transmission now... Might add an external cooler myself on of these days. Thankfully the PO put a huge radiator in a couple years back, hopefully that helps her far into the future.
As far as the trans filter, I bought one directly from Sirum down in Florida. I'm assuming he wouldn't sell the chinese kind right? How do I tell?
1978 Kingsley -
Kansas City, MO
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Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA? [message #320702 is a reply to message #320697] |
Thu, 20 July 2017 03:23 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Mike,
If and when Luke talks to Jim I can ga-ron-tee Jim will tell him it's the greatest since sliced bread!
Every coach that Jim has worked on is also!
:-)
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Kelley
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:34 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA?
Hi Luke:
Talk to Jim Bounds in Fla. (Orlando area - I believe). If I remember correctly he built it in about 2005.
Good Luck,
Mike/The Corvair a holic
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Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA? [message #320705 is a reply to message #320702] |
Thu, 20 July 2017 07:48 |
Luke Walling
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Hopefully it really is.
I'm going to take the journey to look at it! If there are any others on the West Coast that list members are fond of, please let me know. I'd like to have a look at two or three at least.
Luke
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:24 AM -0400, "Rob Mueller" wrote:
Mike,
If and when Luke talks to Jim I can ga-ron-tee Jim will tell him it's the greatest since sliced bread!
Every coach that Jim has worked on is also!
:-)
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Kelley
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:34 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA?
Hi Luke:
Talk to Jim Bounds in Fla. (Orlando area - I believe). If I remember correctly he built it in about 2005.
Good Luck,
Mike/The Corvair a holic
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Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions [message #320706 is a reply to message #320686] |
Thu, 20 July 2017 08:01 |
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USAussie
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Andrew,
Hate to tell you but AFAIK nowadays they are all made in China! If you monitor eBay you might get lucky and find one of these:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p59532-tf-169.html
However, if you bought it from Sirum hopefully he will have checked it.
Review this sequence of photos for additional information:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6759-transmission-filter.html
When you remove the old filter check and make sure there are no o-rings up inside the port the filter goes in.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:06 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions
Hey all, sorry I've been swamped with work and haven't had time to write back. I can't believe the community you guys have here, I
really appreciate the warm welcome and all the great info! I feel a lot better equipped to handle my first few items on the to do
list. I'm going to attempt the fluid changes this week hopefully as I've got some time off, I'll let you all know how it goes. Also
I feel a lot better about the transmission now... Might
add an external cooler myself on of these days. Thankfully the PO put a huge radiator in a couple years back, hopefully that helps
her far into the future.
As far as the trans filter, I bought one directly from Sirum down in Florida. I'm assuming he wouldn't sell the chinese kind right?
How do I tell?
--
1978 Kingsley
Kansas City, MO
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA? [message #320709 is a reply to message #320705] |
Thu, 20 July 2017 08:45 |
James Hupy
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Look at Jerry Work's Royale in southern Oregon. Fantastic coach. All
leather interior. A bit less money than Lillians' coach, also.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jul 20, 2017 5:48 AM, "Luke Walling" wrote:
> Hopefully it really is.
>
> I'm going to take the journey to look at it! If there are any others on
> the West Coast that list members are fond of, please let me know. I'd like
> to have a look at two or three at least.
>
> Luke
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:24 AM -0400, "Rob Mueller" robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>
> Mike,
>
> If and when Luke talks to Jim I can ga-ron-tee Jim will tell him it's the
> greatest since sliced bread!
>
> Every coach that Jim has worked on is also!
>
> :-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Kelley
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:34 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA?
>
> Hi Luke:
> Talk to Jim Bounds in Fla. (Orlando area - I believe). If I remember
> correctly he built it in about 2005.
> Good Luck,
> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions [message #320712 is a reply to message #320706] |
Thu, 20 July 2017 09:22 |
Kingsley Coach
Messages: 2691 Registered: March 2009 Location: Nova Scotia Canada
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Andrew
Thank you for adding your signature file with location...now can I twist
your arm to give John Shotwell of thee Registry your TZE number ?
And while I'm at it, have you signed up for the Black List. You don't have
to be an expert in anything, but a friendly voice at the end of the
phone...you are friendly aren't you...goes a long way in helping a stranded
GMCer !
Thanks
Mike in NS
Virus-free.
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On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Rob Mueller
wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> Hate to tell you but AFAIK nowadays they are all made in China! If you
> monitor eBay you might get lucky and find one of these:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p59532-tf-169.html
>
> However, if you bought it from Sirum hopefully he will have checked it.
>
> Review this sequence of photos for additional information:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6759-transmission-filter.html
>
> When you remove the old filter check and make sure there are no o-rings up
> inside the port the filter goes in.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:06 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions
>
> Hey all, sorry I've been swamped with work and haven't had time to write
> back. I can't believe the community you guys have here, I
> really appreciate the warm welcome and all the great info! I feel a lot
> better equipped to handle my first few items on the to do
> list. I'm going to attempt the fluid changes this week hopefully as I've
> got some time off, I'll let you all know how it goes. Also
> I feel a lot better about the transmission now... Might
> add an external cooler myself on of these days. Thankfully the PO put a
> huge radiator in a couple years back, hopefully that helps
> her far into the future.
>
> As far as the trans filter, I bought one directly from Sirum down in
> Florida. I'm assuming he wouldn't sell the chinese kind right?
> How do I tell?
> --
> 1978 Kingsley
> Kansas City, MO
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA? [message #320713 is a reply to message #320709] |
Thu, 20 July 2017 09:32 |
jimk
Messages: 6734 Registered: July 2006 Location: Belmont, CA
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We know the owners well and have worked on the coach.
I would say that you need to plan on looking at it and then driving it back.
Call me should you want to dis cuss.
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 6:45 AM, James Hupy wrote:
> Look at Jerry Work's Royale in southern Oregon. Fantastic coach. All
> leather interior. A bit less money than Lillians' coach, also.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Jul 20, 2017 5:48 AM, "Luke Walling" wrote:
>
>> Hopefully it really is.
>>
>> I'm going to take the journey to look at it! If there are any others on
>> the West Coast that list members are fond of, please let me know. I'd
> like
>> to have a look at two or three at least.
>>
>> Luke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:24 AM -0400, "Rob Mueller" > robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> If and when Luke talks to Jim I can ga-ron-tee Jim will tell him it's the
>> greatest since sliced bread!
>>
>> Every coach that Jim has worked on is also!
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Kelley
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:34 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA?
>>
>> Hi Luke:
>> Talk to Jim Bounds in Fla. (Orlando area - I believe). If I remember
>> correctly he built it in about 2005.
>> Good Luck,
>> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA? [message #320724 is a reply to message #320709] |
Thu, 20 July 2017 12:17 |
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On Jul 20, 2017 8:46 AM, "James Hupy" wrote:
> Look at Jerry Work's Royale in southern Oregon. Fantastic coach. All
> leather interior. A bit less money than Lillians' coach, also.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Jul 20, 2017 5:48 AM, "Luke Walling" wrote:
>
>> Hopefully it really is.
>>
>> I'm going to take the journey to look at it! If there are any others on
>> the West Coast that list members are fond of, please let me know. I'd
> like
>> to have a look at two or three at least.
>>
>> Luke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:24 AM -0400, "Rob Mueller" > robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> If and when Luke talks to Jim I can ga-ron-tee Jim will tell him it's the
>> greatest since sliced bread!
>>
>> Every coach that Jim has worked on is also!
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Kelley
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:34 PM
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 2006 resto in Coarsegold, CA?
>>
>> Hi Luke:
>> Talk to Jim Bounds in Fla. (Orlando area - I believe). If I remember
>> correctly he built it in about 2005.
>> Good Luck,
>> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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