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| Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295085] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 21:27  |
Dan
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Hello,
People who have installed a dig-panel or similar gauges I have a couple questions. Did you pipe in a second oil pressure sender or use the original with two leads? If i were to add a second sender how much pressure should it handle on the upper end.
Thanks!
Dan
Dan DeLuca
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295091 is a reply to message #295090] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 21:55  |
jimk
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Digig Panel is designed to T to the original sender . Should you disconnect
the original lead to the sender, you will not get a reading.
It is a very easy unit to hook up to.
If anyone is interested in acquiring one, they have stopped production and
have asked if we will want to get involved in assembly of them.
I am still deliberating.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Dolph Santorine
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> Dan:
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> I used two senders. I put a “T” on the vertical tube.
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> Make certain the sender is compatible with your Digipanel (correct
> resistance).
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> I don’t think you’ll need to expect oil pressure higher than 80psi.
>
> Dolph
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>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
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>> Hello,
>>
>> People who have installed a dig-panel or similar gauges I have a couple
> questions. Did you pipe in a second oil pressure sender or use the original
>> with two leads? If i were to add a second sender how much pressure
> should it handle on the upper end.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Dan
>> --
>> Dan DeLuca
>> 1978 Eleganza II (http://imgur.com/gallery/YFHhK)
>> Parked at Evil Monkey Farm in
>> Allentown, New Jersey
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| Re: Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295092 is a reply to message #295085] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 22:08 |
JohnS
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DigiPanels come in two Flavors. The "J" model parallel connects to the the OEM sender and the OEM system must be operating for that setup to work. The "J" model will not work with a dedicated sender, Just went thru this with the stretch. When Buskirk built my coach. the OEM wiring was omitted. A PO tried to make a "J" model DigiPanel work, but it did not until I ran a wire between the sender and the OEM gauge. Buskirk had installed a bourdon tube oil pressure gauge and I guess thought that the OEM gauge was unnecessary. You can get a DigiPanel that has the circuitry in it for a dedicated sender. If you have questions about the DigiPanel, email Art at digidevicesinc@gmail.com. He is very helpful.
John Shutzbaugh, Vacaville, CA, ncserv@aol.com;
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| Re: Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295097 is a reply to message #295085] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 08:49 |
Dan
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I am actually working on a little winter project that will uses a micro controller to meter engine temp, transmission temp, oil pressure, and voltage. I will be able to monitor the readings on my phone (works with iOS and android) and I will be able to log the engine and trans temperatures on a SD card that in the micro controller. So far everything seems to be working well. For anyone interested I will update the forum when I get a little closer to finishing.
Which would be preferred a second oil pressure sender or piggy backing off the OEM one?
Dan
Dan DeLuca
1978 Eleganza II (http://imgur.com/gallery/YFHhK)
Parked at Evil Monkey Farm in
Allentown, New Jersey
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295109 is a reply to message #295091] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 12:04 |
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What was the size of the last buy, Jim? Somewhere over 10, if I remember.
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> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 19:55:02 -0800
> From: jimkanomata@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender
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> Digig Panel is designed to T to the original sender . Should you disconnect
> the original lead to the sender, you will not get a reading.
> It is a very easy unit to hook up to.
> If anyone is interested in acquiring one, they have stopped production and
> have asked if we will want to get involved in assembly of them.
> I am still deliberating.
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295114 is a reply to message #295098] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 12:52 |
Dan
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Matt,
I have never heard of the megasquirt, seems like a pretty cool board with an unfortunate name. One idea I had was to set up a wireless sensor network to monitor the house system and replace all those balky 40 year old senders. I really like this new e-tape liquid level sensors. Supposedly even rated for use in gasoline. Probably is more trouble and expense than its worth though. There are also some cheap flow sensors on various sites that use PWM to record flow rates, again supposedly rated for fuel. I think it would be great to see how much fuel I used on a trip, but I hate to trust my life/trip to a $20 plastic sensor.
Dan
Dan DeLuca
1978 Eleganza II (http://imgur.com/gallery/YFHhK)
Parked at Evil Monkey Farm in
Allentown, New Jersey
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295121 is a reply to message #295114] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 15:49 |
jimk
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Mac,
We generally bring in about 5ea. at a time as they are not the faster
sellers, but the most valuable instrument.
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I have never heard of the megasquirt, seems like a pretty cool board with
> an unfortunate name. One idea I had was to set up a wireless sensor network
> to monitor the house system and replace all those balky 40 year old
> senders. I really like this new e-tape liquid level sensors. Supposedly
> even
> rated for use in gasoline. Probably is more trouble and expense than its
> worth though. There are also some cheap flow sensors on various sites that
> use PWM to record flow rates, again supposedly rated for fuel. I think it
> would be great to see how much fuel I used on a trip, but I hate to trust
> my life/trip to a $20 plastic sensor.
>
> Dan
> --
> Dan DeLuca
> 1978 Eleganza II (http://imgur.com/gallery/YFHhK)
> Parked at Evil Monkey Farm in
> Allentown, New Jersey
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295124 is a reply to message #295122] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 16:09 |
jimk
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Well,
A group buy might be in order if we are going to start assembly of these
units.
Thanks, Rob
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Robert Mueller
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> Jim,
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> I think Mac is talking about the group buy that you helped me organize
> several years ago.
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kanomata
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> Mac,
> We generally bring in about 5ea. at a time as they are not the faster
> sellers, but the most valuable instrument.
>
> Jim
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| Re: Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295126 is a reply to message #295085] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 17:00 |
jhbridges
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Jim, have you a source for the circuit boards? If there's a job shop already set up to etch and drill them, they ought to be fairly cheap. The box is going to be the most costly part. Get a stack of the boards and you can built up a btach of five or ten when you need them.
I find mine more valuable than a logger or a phone sending gauge, even if I had such a phone (I have a $15 phone from WalMart. I talk on it). The DigiPanel gets a test when I fire up the coach. Then, should something get out of tolerance like a dying alternator, it squawks a me and gets my attention.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295128 is a reply to message #295126] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 17:52 |
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Johnny,
The Digi Panel is build in the US of A not the heathen Chinese!
http://www.digi-panel.com/
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender
Jim, have you a source for the circuit boards? If there's a job shop already set up to etch and drill them, they ought to be fairly
cheap. The box is going to be the most costly part. Get a stack of the boards and you can built up a btach of five or ten when you
need them.
I find mine more valuable than a logger or a phone sending gauge, even if I had such a phone (I have a $15 phone from WalMart. I
talk on it). The DigiPanel gets a test when I fire up the coach. Then, should something get out of tolerance like a dying
alternator, it squawks a me and gets my
attention.
--johnny
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Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295129 is a reply to message #295091] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 18:27 |
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[quote title=jimk wrote on Thu, 04 February 2016 21:55...If anyone is interested in acquiring one, they have stopped production and have asked if we will want to get involved in assembly of them.
I am still deliberating....[/quote]
I am pretty high on the product Jim. I don't know what your margin would be but I believe you'd sell some both inside and outside the GMC community. I expect Art can/has provided sales figures for your consideration.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295132 is a reply to message #295129] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 18:50 |
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Kerry / JimK et al,
I must apologize I missed the bit about Art ceasing manufacturing of the Digi Panel.
If you do start to make them I would suggest that instead of hard wiring all the leads to the box each pair have a removable
connector of some kind.
I asked Art about that once and he noted he hard wired them to keep the cost down, however, AFAIC having connectors would be well
worth any reasonable extra cost.
Oh yeah, I too am high on this product and will be buying one for the Kingsley.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Pinkerton
[quote] title=jimk wrote on Thu, 04 February 2016 21:55...
If anyone is interested in acquiring one, they have stopped production and have asked if we will want to get involved in assembly of
them. I am still deliberating. [quote]
I am pretty high on the product Jim. I don't know what your margin would be but I believe you'd sell some both inside and outside
the GMC community. I expect Art can/has provided sales figures for your consideration.
--
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295133 is a reply to message #295132] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 19:27 |
jimk
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I Have a guy that can do assembly as Art farms ot lot of the fabing.
I'm to go down to meet him with my guy and see what he wants for all these
and negotiate and see if it is feasible.
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> Kerry / JimK et al,
>
> I must apologize I missed the bit about Art ceasing manufacturing of the
> Digi Panel.
>
> If you do start to make them I would suggest that instead of hard wiring
> all the leads to the box each pair have a removable
> connector of some kind.
>
> I asked Art about that once and he noted he hard wired them to keep the
> cost down, however, AFAIC having connectors would be well
> worth any reasonable extra cost.
>
> Oh yeah, I too am high on this product and will be buying one for the
> Kingsley.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kerry Pinkerton
>
> [quote] title=jimk wrote on Thu, 04 February 2016 21:55...
>
> If anyone is interested in acquiring one, they have stopped production and
> have asked if we will want to get involved in assembly of
> them. I am still deliberating. [quote]
>
> I am pretty high on the product Jim. I don't know what your margin would
> be but I believe you'd sell some both inside and outside
> the GMC community. I expect Art can/has provided sales figures for your
> consideration.
> --
> Kerry
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295134 is a reply to message #295133] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 19:44 |
Ken Henderson
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Jim,
Just to be sure you keep it in mind: I agree with Rob about not hard
wiring everything. I've admired the DigiPanel for years, but only from
afar because I didn't care for the packaging and output. I'd prefer to
integrate the basic circuit board into my custom panel with the readouts
provided at each of the related instruments. That could easily be a
optional variation.
Ken H.
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> I Have a guy that can do assembly as Art farms ot lot of the fabing.
> I'm to go down to meet him with my guy and see what he wants for all these
> and negotiate and see if it is feasible.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Robert Mueller
> wrote:
>
>> Kerry / JimK et al,
>>
>> I must apologize I missed the bit about Art ceasing manufacturing of the
>> Digi Panel.
>>
>> If you do start to make them I would suggest that instead of hard wiring
>> all the leads to the box each pair have a removable
>> connector of some kind.
>
...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295136 is a reply to message #295134] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 19:54 |
jimk
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Ken,
Art liked to keep things simple, however I have no problem listening to
people and doing things that will make the unit more friendly to use and
available in component parts when needed by people.
I'll know more after meeting with him.
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Just to be sure you keep it in mind: I agree with Rob about not hard
> wiring everything. I've admired the DigiPanel for years, but only from
> afar because I didn't care for the packaging and output. I'd prefer to
> integrate the basic circuit board into my custom panel with the readouts
> provided at each of the related instruments. That could easily be a
> optional variation.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Jim Kanomata
> wrote:
>
>> I Have a guy that can do assembly as Art farms ot lot of the fabing.
>> I'm to go down to meet him with my guy and see what he wants for all
> these
>> and negotiate and see if it is feasible.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Robert Mueller
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kerry / JimK et al,
>>>
>>> I must apologize I missed the bit about Art ceasing manufacturing of
> the
>>> Digi Panel.
>>>
>>> If you do start to make them I would suggest that instead of hard
> wiring
>>> all the leads to the box each pair have a removable
>>> connector of some kind.
>>
> ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender [message #295138 is a reply to message #295136] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 20:15 |
Brian Waddell
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In regards to the digipanel....what advantage does it have over guages with alarms built in that a person can adjust....so the guage gives the reading and will sound an alarm if the reading is to low or high.....Brian 77 ele 455
> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 17:54:42 -0800
> From: jimkanomata@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Second Oil Pressure Sender
>
> Ken,
> Art liked to keep things simple, however I have no problem listening to
> people and doing things that will make the unit more friendly to use and
> available in component parts when needed by people.
> I'll know more after meeting with him.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Just to be sure you keep it in mind: I agree with Rob about not hard
>> wiring everything. I've admired the DigiPanel for years, but only from
>> afar because I didn't care for the packaging and output. I'd prefer to
>> integrate the basic circuit board into my custom panel with the readouts
>> provided at each of the related instruments. That could easily be a
>> optional variation.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Jim Kanomata
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I Have a guy that can do assembly as Art farms ot lot of the fabing.
>>> I'm to go down to meet him with my guy and see what he wants for all
>> these
>>> and negotiate and see if it is feasible.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Robert Mueller
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kerry / JimK et al,
>>>>
>>>> I must apologize I missed the bit about Art ceasing manufacturing of
>> the
>>>> Digi Panel.
>>>>
>>>> If you do start to make them I would suggest that instead of hard
>> wiring
>>>> all the leads to the box each pair have a removable
>>>> connector of some kind.
>>>
>> ...
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