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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #292867 is a reply to message #292865] |
Thu, 24 December 2015 12:32 |
powwerjon
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This one works, go do to bottom of his site to alignment and open.
http://www.jerrywork.com
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
Newsletter Editor/Publisher
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan
> On Dec 24, 2015, at 11:17 AM, James Hupy wrote:
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> I do ride height adjustments on GMC MOTORHOMES all the time. Jerry Work
> knows as much about alignment and ride height adjustments as anyone. He has
> a procedure on his website, thedovetailjoint.com We do them exactly as he
> describes it. Seldom have issues. But, feel free to learn for yourself.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
> On Dec 24, 2015 9:16 AM, "Scott Nutter" wrote:
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>> Ken Burton's technique sounds more like the way the manual describes the
>> procedure. The shop manual does not mention any steps of raising the front
>> end. Also, all the informational videos on YouTube show the wheels on the
>> ground during adjustments. Although the videos were all GMC trucks.
>>
>> So, being my first time, I am going to err on the safe side. I will set
>> the front ride height with the wheels OFF the ground. Once I'm under the
>> coach
>> I can actually get a better idea of what's going down there and the amount
>> of force actually on the unloader tool. Then after the first test drive, I
>> will fine tune the front height with the wheels ON the ground if I think I
>> can do it safely. I will also try to post the end results with pictures.
>> Scott
>> --
>> Scott Nutter
>> 1978 455 Royale Center Kitchen, Quad bags.
>> Houston, Texas
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #292872 is a reply to message #292850] |
Thu, 24 December 2015 13:54 |
Larry
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Ken Burton wrote on Thu, 24 December 2015 06:02I am going to disagree with Larry. I have adjusted the ride height on many coaches with my un-loader tool and we ALWAYS do it with the weight on the wheels. If you do it with the wheels hanging you have no input as to how much the coach has raised or lowered when you turn the adjustment tool screw. Doing it by dropping the wheels means you will have a very long procedure because you will have to drop the coach, drive it around, and then measure see what your adjustment results are over and over again for each correction. For each correction you will have to set it up again.
The 6 turn per inch is just a guideline. As you start to turn one side the weight transfers to that side and the first few turns usually just twist the bar without raising the coach. So if you turn the screw on the light side of the coach you will get more than 1" for 6 turns and simultaneously will get some lift on the opposite side. If you are turning on the heavy side you will initially get no lift followed by less than 1" on the heavy side.
So my recommendation is to LUBRICATE the screw on the adjustment tool liberally. I use anti-seize but oil will do. Then adjust the bars on both sides with the weight on the wheels. After adjusting the second side, recheck the first side, and change it as necessary. Go back and forth between the two sides until no change is required on either side. Then drive the coach for a few miles and recheck your measurements / adjustments.
It is imperative that the REAR END be blocked in place at EXACTLY EQUAL height during the front height adjustment. We have found that a 1/4" difference in side to side height in the rear will transfer 125 pounds from side to side in the front (with a corresponding change in front ride height).
One other comment on your procedure. You can also cut some blocks for the front height measurement to the bottom of the frame rather than tape measure to the top of the holes. I do not remember the dimension of the blocks at the moment and my measurement stuff is not at home for me to look at right now.
I cut up a bunch of scrap lumber and handed out the pre-cut blocks at several of the GMCMI rallies. The blocks make adjustment much easier. I use 1x2's for the front blocks and 2x4's for the rear blocks so we do not get them confused while using them. Front and rear are different lengths.
Good, I'm glad it works for some. It certainly Would save a lot of time and effort. But, I personally have stripped the screw on the tool. It was on a tool that I made up as a dual purpose tool from a Warner wheel bearing tool that I had. You can see it here. It served me well until the bolt and nut stripped. So I've erred on the safe side ever since. I'd say...you can try it...with the couch down. If it doesn't feel right...Stop. JWID
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/front-suspension-adjusting-tool/p9162.html
Thanks for the opposing view Ken...always good to hear polite descent.
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #292873 is a reply to message #292867] |
Thu, 24 December 2015 12:40 |
powwerjon
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Go to GMC Motorcoach on right side of top line Then scroll down to links at bottom.
JR
> On Dec 24, 2015, at 11:32 AM, John Wright wrote:
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> This one works, go do to bottom of his site to alignment and open.
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> http://www.jerrywork.com
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> J.R. Wright
> GMC GreatLaker
> Newsletter Editor/Publisher
> 78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
> 75 Avion Under Reconstruction
> Michigan
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>> On Dec 24, 2015, at 11:17 AM, James Hupy wrote:
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>> I do ride height adjustments on GMC MOTORHOMES all the time. Jerry Work
>> knows as much about alignment and ride height adjustments as anyone. He has
>> a procedure on his website, thedovetailjoint.com We do them exactly as he
>> describes it. Seldom have issues. But, feel free to learn for yourself.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>> On Dec 24, 2015 9:16 AM, "Scott Nutter" wrote:
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>>> Ken Burton's technique sounds more like the way the manual describes the
>>> procedure. The shop manual does not mention any steps of raising the front
>>> end. Also, all the informational videos on YouTube show the wheels on the
>>> ground during adjustments. Although the videos were all GMC trucks.
>>>
>>> So, being my first time, I am going to err on the safe side. I will set
>>> the front ride height with the wheels OFF the ground. Once I'm under the
>>> coach
>>> I can actually get a better idea of what's going down there and the amount
>>> of force actually on the unloader tool. Then after the first test drive, I
>>> will fine tune the front height with the wheels ON the ground if I think I
>>> can do it safely. I will also try to post the end results with pictures.
>>> Scott
>>> --
>>> Scott Nutter
>>> 1978 455 Royale Center Kitchen, Quad bags.
>>> Houston, Texas
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #292880 is a reply to message #292873] |
Thu, 24 December 2015 15:27 |
Scott Nutter
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I have tried and tried again to open jerry works site on my trusty little iPad but it just won't open. I will try on a laptop. A lot of knowledgable people have recommended his site. And thanks again for the help to keep me from screwing this thing up! Scott.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #292884 is a reply to message #292860] |
Thu, 24 December 2015 16:18 |
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Scott,
On this rare occasion I am going to disagree with me Mate, Ken! ;-) Below you will find what the manual(s) note. I think it's best
that they be followed carefully.
THE FOLLOWING CUT AND PASTED FROM X-7525 / SECTION 3A FRONT SUSPENSION / PAGES 3A-19 & 20:
RIDE HEIGHT
When checking front ride height, have the vehicle parked on a known level surface, and tire pressure at specified psi.
NOTE: For details on adjusting rear ride height refer to Section 4, REAR SUSPENSION. If vehicle is equipped with the optional Power
Level System, be sure power level control knobs are set in the "TRAVEL" position prior to adjusting front ride height Measurements
must be taken from the top of oval hole in the frame rail to the floor (figure 31).
NOTE: Never attempt to increase the ride height of the vehicle using the adjusting bolt only, (figure 30). The bolt will turn but
will strip threads and will necessitate replacement of the bolt. Always use special tool.
RIDE HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
NOTE: Tool J-22517-02 (shown in figure 16) must be used the reset ride height. This tool will raise or lower the torsion bar rear
anchor arm so that the adjusting bolt is not loaded.
1. Install Tool J-22517-02 with pin of tool aligned into hole in crossmember. Seat center screw in dimple of torsion bar adjusting
arm.
2. If vehicle must be raised, turn tool until proper adjustment level is reached, then turn the adjusting bolt until it makes
contact with the adjusting arm. Remove tool.
3. If vehicle is to be lowered, raise adjusting arm from contact with adjusting bolt. Lower bolt then lower arm with tool until
proper ride height level is reached. Raise bolt to contact adjustment arm. Remove tool.
THE FOLLOWING IS CUT AND PASTED FROM X-7625 / SECTION 3A - FRONT SUSPENSION / PAGE 3A-19
RIDE HEIGHT
When checking front ride height, have the vehicle parked on a known level surface, and tire pressure at specified psi.
NOTE: For details on adjusting rear ride height refer to Section 4, REAR SUSPENSION.
If vehicle is equipped with the optional Electro-Level System, be sure power level control switches for right and left hand side of
vehicle are in "OFF" position. Set center switch to "TRAVEL AUTO" position prior to adjusting front ride height.
Measurements must be taken from the top of oval hole in the frame rail to the floor (figure 21).
NOTE: Never attempt to increase the ride height of the vehicle using the adjusting bolt only (figure 22). The bolt will turn but
will strip threads and will necessitate replacement of the bolt. Always use special tool
RIDE HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT (Figure 21)
NOTE: Tool J-22517-02 (shown in figure 20) must be used the reset ride height. This tool will raise or lower the torsion bar rear
anchor arm so that the adjusting bolt in not loaded.
1. Install Tool J-22517-02 with pin of tool aligned into hole in crossmember. Seat center screw in dimple of torsion bar adjusting
arm.
2. If vehicle must be raised, turn tool until proper adjustment level is reached, then turn the adjusting bolt until it makes
contact with the adjusting arm. Remove tool.
3. If vehicle is to be lowered, raise adjusting arm from contact with adjusting bolt. Lower bolt, then lower arm with tool until
proper ride height level is reached. Raise bolt to contact adjustment arm. Remove tool
MANUAL X-7725 SAYS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING AS X-7625.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Nutter
Ken Burton's technique sounds more like the way the manual describes the procedure. The shop manual does not mention any steps of
raising the front end. Also, all the informational videos on YouTube show the wheels on the ground during adjustments. Although the
videos were all GMC trucks.
So, being my first time, I am going to err on the safe side. I will set the front ride height with the wheels OFF the ground. Once
I'm under the coach I can actually get a better idea of what's going down there and the amount of force actually on the unloader
tool. Then after the first test drive, I will fine tune the front height with the wheels ON the ground if I think I can do it
safely. I will also try to post the end results with pictures.
Scott
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #292904 is a reply to message #292884] |
Thu, 24 December 2015 23:46 |
Scott Nutter
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Rob,
So sorry for your loss.........Anything I can do to help, just let me know....but the only thing I'm really good at is mixing drinks.....
Your quotes from the supplement manual 77-78 were the same exact wording I was referencing to. Not once in the manual did I see anywhere about raising the tires off the ground.
But upon further research, the manuals from 1973 specifically mention to RAISE the vehicle off the ground........I quess this is why I'm confused....
Wouldn't the 77-78 supplemental manual superceide the the 1973 manual?
The only time the supplemental manual mentions anything about stripping a bolt is in reference to the alignment bolt when not using the unloader tool.
Could the unloader tool they used back when the manual was written have been made of better quality metals than what we are seeing today? The only reason I say this is because about 80% of the responses are for lifting the wheels off the ground. If you had a tool that was stout enough and would not strip, then wouldn't lifting the tires off the ground would be irrelevant?
I'm not trying to out smart anyone, I'm just trying to get the best plan together before I start the height adjustment. Scott
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #292909 is a reply to message #292872] |
Fri, 25 December 2015 07:27 |
Ken Burton
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Larry wrote on Thu, 24 December 2015 13:54
Good, I'm glad it works for some. It certainly Would save a lot of time and effort. But, I personally have stripped the screw on the tool. It was on a tool that I made up as a dual purpose tool from a Warner wheel bearing tool that I had. You can see it here. It served me well until the bolt and nut stripped. So I've erred on the safe side ever since. I'd say...you can try it...with the couch down. If it doesn't feel right...Stop. JWID
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/front-suspension-adjusting-tool/p9162.html
Thanks for the opposing view Ken...always good to hear polite descent.
After looking at the pictures of your tool, I can see why you might be jacking up the coach first. My tool is built much heavier (bolt diameters and cross bar thickness) than the one in the picture you posted. As I stated before, It is also important to lubricate the threads of the tool adjusting bolt.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294002 is a reply to message #292909] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 01:19 |
Scott Nutter
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*********UPDATE***********
First of all, mine was a real pain in the rear.........
The PO used a real good thread locker on the pork chop set bolt. It took what seemed like all day to get them out. And that was with a 1/2" drive breaker bar.......It actually required twice as much force to remove the set bolts than it did to compress the pork chop with the unloader tool...
After taking the bolts to the wire wheel for cleaning, I coated them with anti seize. They went back in with no problem.
Since this was my first time to set the ride height, I erred on the cautious side and lifted the front end till the wheels were off the ground before I compresses the pork chop with the unloader tool. All went according to plan with no hiccups. I ran out of time, so no test drive to allow the front end to set in. Hopefully that will be in the next few days.
I have a friend who has extreme duty Kent Moore torsion bar unloader tool. When I get a chance to fine tune the front end height, I am going to use that unloader tool and attempt to set the height WITHOUT raising the front wheels off the ground. I just don't know how I'm going to fit under the coach without the front end jacked up.......I will post results when finished....Scott out..
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294003 is a reply to message #294002] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 02:35 |
Ken Burton
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Please put something under the frame, but not touching it, to catch the coach if the bar should slip out of the pork chop or spin in the A-frame socket while you are under there. I have never seen this happen while adjusting, but I know of two cases where it happened while driving.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294012 is a reply to message #294003] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 08:06 |
Dolph Santorine
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Agreed:
I was taught by an old codger to put the wheel/tire that was removed (or another one) under the frame for exactly that reason!
Safety first.
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Jan 18, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> Please put something under the frame, but not touching it, to catch the coach if the bar should slip out of the pork chop or spin in the A-frame
> socket while you are under there. I have never seen this happen while adjusting, but I know of two cases where it happened while driving.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294016 is a reply to message #294012] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 09:03 |
Scott Nutter
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Absolutely,
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294019 is a reply to message #294002] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 10:45 |
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Scott Nutter wrote on Mon, 18 January 2016 00:19*********UPDATE***********
First of all, mine was a real pain in the rear.........
The PO used a real good thread locker on the pork chop set bolt. It took what seemed like all day to get them out. And that was with a 1/2" drive breaker bar.......It actually required twice as much force to remove the set bolts than it did to compress the pork chop with the unloader tool...
After taking the bolts to the wire wheel for cleaning, I coated them with anti seize. They went back in with no problem.
Since this was my first time to set the ride height, I erred on the cautious side and lifted the front end till the wheels were off the ground before I compresses the pork chop with the unloader tool. All went according to plan with no hiccups. I ran out of time, so no test drive to allow the front end to set in. Hopefully that will be in the next few days.
I have a friend who has extreme duty Kent Moore torsion bar unloader tool. When I get a chance to fine tune the front end height, I am going to use that unloader tool and attempt to set the height WITHOUT raising the front wheels off the ground. I just don't know how I'm going to fit under the coach without the front end jacked up.......I will post results when finished....Scott out..
Scott--don't forget to check the front toe setting. Depending on how much you raised the coach, the toe will change a lot.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294020 is a reply to message #294019] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 10:53 |
James Hupy
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Camber too.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jan 18, 2016 8:46 AM, "Bob de Kruyff" wrote:
> Scott Nutter wrote on Mon, 18 January 2016 00:19
>> *********UPDATE***********
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>> First of all, mine was a real pain in the rear.........
>> The PO used a real good thread locker on the pork chop set bolt. It took
> what seemed like all day to get them out. And that was with a 1/2" drive
>> breaker bar.......It actually required twice as much force to remove the
> set bolts than it did to compress the pork chop with the unloader tool...
>> After taking the bolts to the wire wheel for cleaning, I coated them
> with anti seize. They went back in with no problem.
>>
>> Since this was my first time to set the ride height, I erred on the
> cautious side and lifted the front end till the wheels were off the ground
>> before I compresses the pork chop with the unloader tool. All went
> according to plan with no hiccups. I ran out of time, so no test drive to
> allow
>> the front end to set in. Hopefully that will be in the next few days.
>>
>> I have a friend who has extreme duty Kent Moore torsion bar unloader
> tool. When I get a chance to fine tune the front end height, I am going to
>> use that unloader tool and attempt to set the height WITHOUT raising the
> front wheels off the ground. I just don't know how I'm going to fit under
>> the coach without the front end jacked up.......I will post results when
> finished....Scott out..
>
> Scott--don't forget to check the front toe setting. Depending on how much
> you raised the coach, the toe will change a lot.
> --
> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294041 is a reply to message #294020] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 16:52 |
Scott Nutter
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Unfortunately any type of alignment (camber, toe in, etc) is past my experience level. Any other car I've had would of been taken to a alignment shop.
And that brings up another issue........
I do have some slop in the front end. Is there any alignment shops that still know how to align our coaches? Or front end work?
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294044 is a reply to message #294041] |
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Scott,
I'll be arriving in Humble on March 16th and would be more than happy to check out your front end, help you fix any issues, and help
you set the ride height. When we're done I can send you to a truck alignment shop near Humble that knows how to align a GMC.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Nutter
Unfortunately any type of alignment (camber, toe in, etc) is past my experience level. Any other car I've had would of been taken to
a alignment shop.
And that brings up another issue........
I do have some slop in the front end. Is there any alignment shops that still know how to align our coaches? Or front end work?
--
Scott Nutter
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Re: Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294045 is a reply to message #292808] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 17:56 |
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No sense aligning with slop. Read Jerry's alignment proceedures and buy or borrow his kit. If you can adjust torsion bars, you can do alignment. And it is less dangerous than the bar adjustment.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294048 is a reply to message #294044] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 18:50 |
Guy Lopes
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Wow that's a great offer Rob! Scott I hope you take him up on his offer.
That's what this community is all about - sharing knowledge and experience.
Um... Rob, you're not coming through the Sacramento area afterward by chance
are you? Hahaha
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure
Scott,
I'll be arriving in Humble on March 16th and would be more than happy to
check out your front end, help you fix any issues, and help you set the ride
height. When we're done I can send you to a truck alignment shop near Humble
that knows how to align a GMC.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
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Re: [GMCnet] Setting the front ride height procedure [message #294056 is a reply to message #294052] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 21:56 |
Scott Nutter
Messages: 782 Registered: January 2015 Location: Houston/San Diego
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Rob,
I will take you up on your offer. Thank you
If that scoundrel Sharp doesn't pick you up at the airport, I will.
Keep my cell # eight five eight 212 ate 760. Scott, margerata machine is primed and ready to go!!!
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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