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WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #278966] Tue, 02 June 2015 22:41 Go to next message
LongJohn is currently offline  LongJohn   United States
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Hello,
I am looking for a good used or unused set of 2x 2" "hub centered" spacers as sold by Applied GMC or similar. Any extras you may be willing to part with? Changed from 16.5" to 16" steel wheels. Need to compensate for the usual caliper clearance issue.
Many Thanks,
Franz in Texas


1978 GMC Palm Beach
Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #278974 is a reply to message #278966] Wed, 03 June 2015 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.ezaccessory.com/Wheel_Adapter_8_Lug_6_5_To_8_Lug_6_5_p/8650-8650d.htm


Tom McManus
1977 Royale
Chesapeake VA
Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #278996 is a reply to message #278966] Wed, 03 June 2015 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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interesting.... I did not think there was an issue if you use the correct 16" rim?

but I have seen this:

http://www.bdub.net/jhupy/


and this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/helpful-gmc-stuff/p34644-hub-extensions.html


I also think people have grinded the brake caliper itself to clear.




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Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279001 is a reply to message #278974] Wed, 03 June 2015 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Appreciate it Tom, I did see this link before. While I like the price, unfortunately these are nut hub-centered. I'd rather play it safe w/o relying on the lug nuts to keep the wheels centered.

Appreciate it Jon, I read from previous threads on this & other forums that the steel wheels I was considering work in most cases. Appears that wheels w/ same model # may be of somewhat different shape depending on which factory made them. In my case grinding the calipers would remove too much for safety. I did consider the J Hupy solution as I don't need the full 2" for caliper clearance. Tried to reach him w/o success. Also figured that changing the studs in the existing hubs will add quite a bit of expense and carry some risk.

So the bolt on 2" spacers seem to be the best way to go. Price is steep so I was hoping to find used ones.

Thanks again,
Franz


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Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279005 is a reply to message #278996] Wed, 03 June 2015 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lqqkatjon wrote on Wed, 03 June 2015 10:11
interesting.... I did not think there was an issue if you use the correct 16" rim?
but I have seen this:

http://www.bdub.net/jhupy/

and this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/helpful-gmc-stuff/p34644-hub-extensions.html

I also think people have grinded the brake caliper itself to clear.
Even the correct steel wheel can scrub when brand new brake pads are installed in OEM calipers. You can grind the OEM calipers enough to work. 80mm calipers are a different story. You need hub extenders or alloy wheels to run 80mm calipers.
Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279029 is a reply to message #278966] Wed, 03 June 2015 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HTH.........
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Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279307 is a reply to message #279029] Sun, 07 June 2015 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Plenty of GMCs running on non-hub centered 16" Eagles without reported problems. Why would a non-centered solution cause any different expectations of success? Other than owner desires?
Tom, MS II


2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552 KA4CSG
Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279324 is a reply to message #279307] Sun, 07 June 2015 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tphipps wrote on Sun, 07 June 2015 20:47
Plenty of GMCs running on non-hub centered 16" Eagles without reported problems. Why would a non-centered solution cause any different expectations of success? Other than owner desires?
Tom, MS II


I did check on the non-hub centered Eagle option. More folks seem to prefer the hub centered Alcoa's or even the Eagles w/ the hub centering inserts. Most folks I talked to cite high coach weight & shock loads. So far I have not found anyone actually using non-hub centered spacers. With 2" spacers my personal opinion is that only the (more expensive) hub centered version provides true centering without relying on conical lug nuts centering the spacer/wheel. Especially since it is necessary to center twice, 1. spacer to hub & 2. wheel to spacer.

Anyone out there actually using non-hub centered 2" spacers? Feel free to share your experience.

A great week to all!
Franz


1978 GMC Palm Beach
Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279331 is a reply to message #279324] Mon, 08 June 2015 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I run them on my Weld wheels. No problems..
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/crestmont/p35782-right-side-on.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p36363-76-crestmont-23-60.html




LongJohn wrote on Mon, 08 June 2015 00:02
tphipps wrote on Sun, 07 June 2015 20:47
Plenty of GMCs running on non-hub centered 16" Eagles without reported problems. Why would a non-centered solution cause any different expectations of success? Other than owner desires?
Tom, MS II


I did check on the non-hub centered Eagle option. More folks seem to prefer the hub centered Alcoa's or even the Eagles w/ the hub centering inserts. Most folks I talked to cite high coach weight & shock loads. So far I have not found anyone actually using non-hub centered spacers. With 2" spacers my personal opinion is that only the (more expensive) hub centered version provides true centering without relying on conical lug nuts centering the spacer/wheel. Especially since it is necessary to center twice, 1. spacer to hub & 2. wheel to spacer.

Anyone out there actually using non-hub centered 2" spacers? Feel free to share your experience.

A great week to all!
Franz


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East Tennessee
Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279342 is a reply to message #279331] Mon, 08 June 2015 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another thought along the use of spacers. Would the spacers add enough clearance for the modern cone shaped GMC/Chevy truck 16" rims to fit over the front hubs? Not that I'm going to chase this option, but an interesting thought. Especially at 2 a.m.
Tom, MS II


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Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279354 is a reply to message #279342] Mon, 08 June 2015 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tphipps wrote on Mon, 08 June 2015 08:49
Another thought along the use of spacers. Would the spacers add enough clearance for the modern cone shaped GMC/Chevy truck 16" rims to fit over the front hubs? Not that I'm going to chase this option, but an interesting thought. Especially at 2 a.m.
Tom, MS II

They might, especially if one is not concerned about hub centerings. My 16" steel wheels are bell shaped and have the same bore as the original 16.5" wheels.


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Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279363 is a reply to message #278966] Mon, 08 June 2015 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I run lug-centric Dodge wheels on the front and have no problems with loosening.
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Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #279577 is a reply to message #279363] Wed, 10 June 2015 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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C. Boyd & Skip.. appreciate your feedback. Good to see success with a simpler solution than hub centered. Best, Franz

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Re: WTB: 2" Front Wheel Spacers [message #281384 is a reply to message #279577] Fri, 03 July 2015 11:01 Go to previous message
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Having the opportunity to check physically the dome shaped 16" OEM Steel Wheel, with and without a 2" spacer and 80MM new calipers installed on my coach.
The OEM 16" Steel Wheel will not clear the 80mm calipers without some grinding being done on the ears. Other minor grinding may be needed, as noted elsewhere. They will fit fine on the OEM 70mm calipers.
The OEM 16" dome shaped Wheel with added 2" Spacers to the hub, as sold by JmK and others, will allow the 80mm calipers to clear the wheel without any modification to the 80mm caliper.
The OEM 16" cone shaped wheel will clear the 70mm or 80mm calipers if you use spacers.
This is based on using Accu-ride Wheel #27756 (Dome shaped) and unknown manufacturer Cone shaped rim, bar coded AV/TBR.
Your mileage may vary.
Tom, MS II


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