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Re: [GMCnet] yet another dash AC question [message #284797 is a reply to message #274533] Thu, 13 August 2015 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KB is currently offline  KB   United States
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Just an update on the AC system problem I was having a while back...

To summarize, I had installed a brand new aluminum compressor from Applied, but no matter what I did could never
get good pressure or cooling out of it, despite changing every single part of the system (in some cases, twice),
and trying all different levels of charge with a duracool equivalent. And yes, I did all the required flushing, vacuuming,
oil, etc.

In the end, I gave up, pulled the new compressor, slapped a new rear seal on the leaky old compressor, and reinstalled.
We now have decent cooling again (well, decent for a GMC anyway).
Thankfully, JimK was gracious enough to take back the new compressor, so all I'm out is the expensive hoses the new compressor ate,
a case of refrigerant, and the numerous parts I replaced while trying to solve the problem (plus a lot of time, frustration, and several hot road trips).

Hopefully we'll get a few trips with working AC for a change.

thanks for the help,
Karen
1975 26'



Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 29 March 2015 05:04
Karen
Keep us informed ...
Mike in NS

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:39 PM, KB wrote:

> well, I guess we don't get any AC this trip (as usual).
> I pulled the compressor, dumped out the oil (a little under 4 oz) and per
> the manual refilled with 6 oz fresh oil.
> The old oil was green, which I hope is from the refrigerant dye.
> Otherwise...hmmm...
> Installed the pricey new expansion valve, pulled a vacuum, let it sit to
> check for leaks, charged with three 6oz cans.
>
> If anything, it's worse than before. At idle, the low side is about 18,
> and the high about 120. My better
> half wasn't here to hold it at 1500rpm, but clearly it would have been
> even lower. Cooling is virtually nonexistent,
> though the lines were sweating on one side and mildy warm on the other
> after a few minutes.
>
> Must be the compressor I guess, as unlikely as that seems. I don't know
> what else it could be. Sad
>
> thanks for all the help.
>
> Karen
> 1975 26'
>
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Re: [GMCnet] yet another dash AC question [message #284799 is a reply to message #284797] Thu, 13 August 2015 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow - frustration leading to a mild victory. yay.

Sorry to hear of all the trouble, glad we’ve got such a great vendor!

Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA


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Re: [GMCnet] yet another dash AC question [message #284800 is a reply to message #284797] Thu, 13 August 2015 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But, what was the problem, Karen?

Has Jim proven that the compressor was actually bad to begin with? Could
the same problem be what is plaguing Richard?

How does one prove a compressor good anyhow?

bdub
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On Aug 13, 2015 2:45 PM, "KB" wrote:
>
> Just an update on the AC system problem I was having a while back...
>
> To summarize, I had installed a brand new aluminum compressor from
Applied, but no matter what I did could never get good pressure or cooling
out of it, despite changing every single part of the system (in some cases,
twice), and trying all different levels of charge with a duracool
equivalent. And yes, I did all the required flushing, vacuuming, oil, etc.
>
> In the end, I gave up, pulled the new compressor, slapped a new rear seal
on the leaky old compressor, and reinstalled.
> We now have decent cooling again (well, decent for a GMC anyway).
> Thankfully, JimK was gracious enough to take back the new compressor, so
all I'm out is the expensive hoses the new compressor ate, a case of
refrigerant, and the numerous parts I replaced while trying to solve the
problem (plus a lot of time, frustration, and several hot road trips).
>
> Hopefully we'll get a few trips with working AC for a change.
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Re: yet another dash AC question [message #284802 is a reply to message #274435] Thu, 13 August 2015 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One proves it good by getting cold air. Unfortunately, not getting cold air doesn't necessarily prove it bad.

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Re: [GMCnet] yet another dash AC question [message #284816 is a reply to message #284800] Thu, 13 August 2015 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This thread from July 11th leads me to believe there were a lot of problems with those aluminum compressors:
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=34468&goto=281888

If the one Richard has is the light aluminum S6 one with the hose-destroying bolt heads sticking out the sides, could
be a similar problem, though I'd at least try changing the expansion valve before giving up on it.

Karen
1975 26'

bdub wrote on Thu, 13 August 2015 13:07
But, what was the problem, Karen?

Has Jim proven that the compressor was actually bad to begin with? Could
the same problem be what is plaguing Richard?

How does one prove a compressor good anyhow?

bdub
www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html

On Aug 13, 2015 2:45 PM, "KB" wrote:
>
> Just an update on the AC system problem I was having a while back...
>
> To summarize, I had installed a brand new aluminum compressor from
Applied, but no matter what I did could never get good pressure or cooling
out of it, despite changing every single part of the system (in some cases,
twice), and trying all different levels of charge with a duracool
equivalent. And yes, I did all the required flushing, vacuuming, oil, etc.
>
> In the end, I gave up, pulled the new compressor, slapped a new rear seal
on the leaky old compressor, and reinstalled.
> We now have decent cooling again (well, decent for a GMC anyway).
> Thankfully, JimK was gracious enough to take back the new compressor, so
all I'm out is the expensive hoses the new compressor ate, a case of
refrigerant, and the numerous parts I replaced while trying to solve the
problem (plus a lot of time, frustration, and several hot road trips).
>
> Hopefully we'll get a few trips with working AC for a change.
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Re: yet another dash AC question [message #284819 is a reply to message #274435] Thu, 13 August 2015 19:12 Go to previous message
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I'll stay with the original heavy 6 piston GM Frigidaire design that has been time proven. Though GM did use Sandens for fitment on vehicles like the C4 ZR1. Did we prove rotation direction was correct?

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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