habbyguy wrote on Tue, 31 March 2015 18:53

FWIW, here's a 26 year old paint job... http://www.habcycles.com/GMC16.jpg



It's still looking pretty good, and now that it's stored inside a climate-controlled warehouse, I suspect it'll continue to stay nice for a lot of years.

Looks like new!

Bob de Kruyff wrote on Tue, 31 March 2015 19:50

Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 31 March 2015 19:19

As nearly as I can tell from the receipts I can read, our coach was repainted in Mexico about 20 years ago. I don't know what the paint was, but it is harder than Imron. It is way harder than Awlgrip. It is flatter than Kansas. I tried polishing it with hand compound on a wheel. (For you that don't know, this is a big Bozo No-No. Hand compound should cut so fast that using it on a power wheel could eat through the metal - let alone the paint.)

Nothing. I can bring it up a little at a time by wet sanding with 400, The panel below the driver's window took all day and it has pretty much gone flat again.

It looks pretty good when it is wet. I thought about putting some of the stuff for terrazo floors on it. I friend used it on his old boat, and it looks pretty good until the UV gets to it.

I would love to get her a 10K paint job, but we have a budget for the coach that is less than I had in mind years ago. If my retirement plans had not been raided, I might have done something, but as it is, the cost of a paint job would put us off line for four maybe five years. Thanks BHO, I will try to remember all you have done for me.

Matt

It was probably some paint that has been illegal here for years. I know a new paint job is almost impossible to swallow. I wonder if just a clear coat would work for you.

That's what I was thinking generaly if it looks good wet a clear coat will make it look pretty good.

Clear coats are typically designed to work with a basecoat system for
proper adhesion. Most basecoats need to be clear coated within a limited
time frame after application in order to have a sound bond between the
two. If that window between basecoat application and clear coat
application closes, typically the basecoat needs to be sanded and another
coat of base applied prior to the clear. Since the bulk of the labor in a
paint job is the prep, skipping the basecoat to save the cost of the base
coat and the time to apply it is a pretty big gamble for small gain. In
collision repair part or parts of the car are re based and then the color
blended out into adjacent areas but the color is tapered or blended off
prior to the end of the panel. The clear is then applied over entire panels
to match gloss. When the clear on a repair fails to adhere and lifts or
peels it is almost always on the parts of the panel where no basecoat was
applied between the end of the blends and the remaining original finish.

Sully
77 Royale
77 eleganza 2
Seattle

On Wednesday, April 1, 2015, Matt Colie wrote:

> roy1 wrote on Wed, 01 April 2015 01:18
>> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Tue, 31 March 2015 19:50
>>> Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 31 March 2015 19:19
>>>> As nearly as I can tell from the receipts I can read, our coach was
> repainted in Mexico about 20 years ago. I don't know what the paint
>>>> was, but it is harder than Imron. It is way harder than Awlgrip.
> It is flatter than Kansas. I tried polishing it with hand compound on a
>>>> wheel. (For you that don't know, this is a big Bozo No-No. Hand
> compound should cut so fast that using it on a power wheel could eat through
>>>> the metal - let alone the paint.)
>>>>
>>>> Nothing. I can bring it up a little at a time by wet sanding with
> 400, The panel below the driver's window took all day and it has pretty
>>>> much gone flat again.
>>>>
>>>> It looks pretty good when it is wet. I thought about putting some
> of the stuff for terrazo floors on it. I friend used it on his old
>>>> boat, and it looks pretty good until the UV gets to it.
>>>>
>>>> I would love to get her a 10K paint job, but we have a budget for
> the coach that is less than I had in mind years ago. If my retirement
>>>> plans had not been raided, I might have done something, but as it
> is, the cost of a paint job would put us off line for four maybe five years.
>>>> Thanks BHO, I will try to remember all you have done for me.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>
>>> It was probably some paint that has been illegal here for years. I
> know a new paint job is almost impossible to swallow. I wonder if just a
>>> clear coat would work for you.
>>
>> That's what I was thinking generaly if it looks good wet a clear coat
> will make it look pretty good.
>
> I have talked to a couple of places about that. Most just look and
> shrug. As I don't know what the base coat is, they are reticent to make
> quotes.
> One nice fellow was sort of considering it, but he lost his shop when the
> building next door went up. I was glad to hear that they got the clients
> cars out even though one didn't actually have wheels. When he gets
> rebuilt, I may see if he is still interested. This would have just been a
> wet
> sand and clear coat. He does great work.
>
> Matt
>
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