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thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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I have a quick question for you all.

Several years ago I bought new boots to cover the CV and slip joints on my steering shaft. I am not replacing the steering box and want to install the boots. Unfortunately, I see no way to install the upper boot that covers the CV joint. The upper clamp is so close to the 6 bolts on the CV joint that it appears that there is not enough room for the boot to fit let alone clamp it in place.

Does anyone have any pictures of their steering shaft with the boots installed? Maybe I am picturing the assembly all wrong.

Thanks,

Bob


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Steering shaft boots [message #262321 is a reply to message #262319] Fri, 19 September 2014 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kelvin is currently offline  kelvin   United States
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On 9/19/2014 10:43 AM, Robert Peesel wrote:
> I have a quick question for you all.
>
> Several years ago I bought new boots to cover the CV and slip joints on my steering shaft. I am not replacing the steering box and want to install
> the boots. Unfortunately, I see no way to install the upper boot that covers the CV joint. The upper clamp is so close to the 6 bolts on the CV
> joint that it appears that there is not enough room for the boot to fit let alone clamp it in place.
>
> Does anyone have any pictures of their steering shaft with the boots installed? Maybe I am picturing the assembly all wrong.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob

Assuming you have boots that are similar to mine, they do fit fine.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-shaft/p44345-steering-shaft-parts.html

Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Steering shaft boots [message #262327 is a reply to message #262321] Fri, 19 September 2014 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Bob,

My boots appear to be the same as Kelvin's and so fit properly. For a
clamp, I used the same 1/4" Band-It clamps that are correct for the axle CV
joint boots. Clean, permanent, secure, and no protruding snags for my old
thin skin. :-)

During one of the times I had that CV off, I made a nylon plug and drove it
into the upper half of the shell to seal the top rain gutter. I haven't
had any more water intrusion. Probably no better than filling it with
silicone, but another alternative.

With the CV disassembled (Make DARNED SURE you mark the orientation of the
parts BEFORE disassembly) it makes sense to me to drill and top the top 1/2
for a Zerk fitting. I don't grease it often or much, but it's nice to be
able to give it a squirt now and then.

​JWID,​

Ken H.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:

> On 9/19/2014 10:43 AM, Robert Peesel wrote:
>> I have a quick question for you all.
>>
>> Several years ago I bought new boots to cover the CV and slip joints on
> my steering shaft. I am not replacing the steering box and want to install
>> the boots. Unfortunately, I see no way to install the upper boot that
> covers the CV joint. The upper clamp is so close to the 6 bolts on the CV
>> joint that it appears that there is not enough room for the boot to fit
> let alone clamp it in place.
>>
>> Does anyone have any pictures of their steering shaft with the boots
> installed? Maybe I am picturing the assembly all wrong.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob
>
> Assuming you have boots that are similar to mine, they do fit fine.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-shaft/p44345-steering-shaft-parts.html
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Steering shaft boots [message #262328 is a reply to message #262327] Fri, 19 September 2014 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Well, I see where my misunderstanding was. I was trying to fit the top boot on the TOP of the steering shaft so that it covered the six bolt heads on the CV joint. I assumed that the boot was there to prevent water coming in from the top.

I can certainly see how it fits beneath the CV joint. Thanks!


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Steering shaft boots [message #262330 is a reply to message #262328] Fri, 19 September 2014 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is an opening for water to migrate into the cv joint from the top
around the pinch clamp. Many owners fill that gap in the clamp with
silicone sealant to prevent that.
Just a suggestion.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Sep 19, 2014 1:45 PM, "Robert Peesel" wrote:

> Well, I see where my misunderstanding was. I was trying to fit the top
> boot on the TOP of the steering shaft so that it covered the six bolt heads
> on
> the CV joint. I assumed that the boot was there to prevent water coming
> in from the top.
>
> I can certainly see how it fits beneath the CV joint. Thanks!
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Steering shaft boots [message #262332 is a reply to message #262328] Fri, 19 September 2014 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 9/19/2014 1:45 PM, Robert Peesel wrote:
> Well, I see where my misunderstanding was. I was trying to fit the top boot on the TOP of the steering shaft so that it covered the six bolt heads on
> the CV joint. I assumed that the boot was there to prevent water coming in from the top.
>
> I can certainly see how it fits beneath the CV joint. Thanks!
>
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Re: Steering shaft boots [message #262334 is a reply to message #262319] Fri, 19 September 2014 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thorndike wrote on Fri, 19 September 2014 12:43
I have a quick question for you all.

Several years ago I bought new boots to cover the CV and slip joints on my steering shaft. I am not replacing the steering box and want to install the boots. Unfortunately, I see no way to install the upper boot that covers the CV joint. The upper clamp is so close to the 6 bolts on the CV joint that it appears that there is not enough room for the boot to fit let alone clamp it in place.

Does anyone have any pictures of their steering shaft with the boots installed? Maybe I am picturing the assembly all wrong.

Thanks,

Bob

Here is something that I contributed to Gene Fishers "GMC Information" site. found at:

http://gmcmotorhome.info/steering.htm#shaft
And reads as follows:

After reading a reference to a 4X4 shock boot being used by somebody, and looking at a picture of the whole shaft in a Caspro catalog, I went to NAPA where I opened every box that had a shock boot and found one that fit almost perfect. NAPA part # 63975 for $15.95. It covers the CV joint clear down to the zirk on the lower part of the shaft. The upper end was a tight fit and is held in place with the zip tie supplied with the boot. Lower part was just a little big so I fit the split in the boot around the zirk and put a zip tie on either side of the zirk, keeping it from sliding either up or down, but still leaving the zirk out for greasing.
HTH


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: Steering shaft boots [message #262336 is a reply to message #262334] Fri, 19 September 2014 17:00 Go to previous message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Larry wrote on Fri, 19 September 2014 16:48
thorndike wrote on Fri, 19 September 2014 12:43
I have a quick question for you all.

Several years ago I bought new boots to cover the CV and slip joints on my steering shaft. I am not replacing the steering box and want to install the boots. Unfortunately, I see no way to install the upper boot that covers the CV joint. The upper clamp is so close to the 6 bolts on the CV joint that it appears that there is not enough room for the boot to fit let alone clamp it in place.

Does anyone have any pictures of their steering shaft with the boots installed? Maybe I am picturing the assembly all wrong.

Thanks,

Bob

Here is something that I contributed to Gene Fishers "GMC Information" site. found at:

http://gmcmotorhome.info/steering.htm#shaft
And reads as follows:

After reading a reference to a 4X4 shock boot being used by somebody, and looking at a picture of the whole shaft in a Caspro catalog, I went to NAPA where I opened every box that had a shock boot and found one that fit almost perfect. NAPA part # 63975 for $15.95. It covers the CV joint clear down to the zirk on the lower part of the shaft. The upper end was a tight fit and is held in place with the zip tie supplied with the boot. Lower part was just a little big so I fit the split in the boot around the zirk and put a zip tie on either side of the zirk, keeping it from sliding either up or down, but still leaving the zirk out for greasing.
HTH

One minor correction on the above regarding the zip tie. I found that the zip tie did not hold. couldn't get it tight enough to keep the boot from sliding off of the cv joint. I ended up using a hose clamp to secure it, but can see where Ken's suggestion of a CV joint clamp might be a better solution. One addition, if you drill and put in a zirk, use only grease designed to be used on CV joints. I used Mobile 1 grease and found that it would bind up once in a while. After reading about several others that had the binding problem, at their suggestion I switched to CV grease and the issue went away. JWID


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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