Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who want adifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #266111 is a reply to message #266106] |
Sat, 15 November 2014 09:15 |
Joe Weir
Messages: 769 Registered: February 2013 Location: Columbia, SC
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Rob,
We must have ordered different wheels.
I ordered the 0589-7788-2-AA 16x7 8mm offset 058 wheel from Summit. It appears to have conical seats:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6394/lug_nut_seat.jpg
The online parts PDF for my wheel shows the lug type as acorn - which they translate as conical seat (page 8):
http://www.americaneaglewheel.com/pdf/aewheel-tech.pdf
http://www.americaneaglewheel.com/pdf/aewheel-tech.pdf
This page lists all of the 058s as acorn style:
http://www.eaglewheels.com/058.htm
http://www.eaglewheels.com/058.htm
Now, the wheel does also have a flat area around the lug hole on the face of the bolt circle where a mag style lug might could be used if the vehicle hub matched the wheel - this one does not match our Hubs.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Robert Mueller
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> Ken,
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> According to the guy at Eagle Wheels I spoke to the lug nuts:
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> http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/
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> Are for lug centered wheels and you don't need the 5.125 to 4.567 hub
> center reducer.
76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center...
Columbia, SC.
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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who wantadifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #266126 is a reply to message #266111] |
Sat, 15 November 2014 13:17 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Joe,
AW S#!T!
I copied the information below from my Summit order:
AEW-0589-7788
Wheel, Series 058, Aluminum, Polished, 16 in. x 7 in., 8 x 6.5 in. Bolt Circle, 4.25 in. Backspace
(Mfr. #: 0589-7788)
I am sure this is the SAME wheel you purchased.
It was not clear to me what kind of lug nuts it took so I called Eagle Wheel technical service and the guy I spoke to told me I
needed these:
http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/
It is possible that the guy I spoke to got it WRONG!
I just sent an email to Summit Racing Tech Support and asked them if the AEW-ACL8898 lug nuts can be used with the AEW-0589-7788.
I can't seem to find American Eagle's Customer / Technical Support email to send them the same question; can you find it? If yes
could you send them the same question. Hopefully we'll get the same answer from them as from Summit!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who wantadifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers?
Rob,
We must have ordered different wheels.
I ordered the 0589-7788-2-AA 16x7 8mm offset 058 wheel from Summit. It appears to have conical seats:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6394/lug_nut_seat.jpg
The online parts PDF for my wheel shows the lug type as acorn - which they translate as conical seat (page 8):
http://www.americaneaglewheel.com/pdf/aewheel-tech.pdf
http://www.americaneaglewheel.com/pdf/aewheel-tech.pdf
This page lists all of the 058s as acorn style:
http://www.eaglewheels.com/058.htm
http://www.eaglewheels.com/058.htm
Now, the wheel does also have a flat area around the lug hole on the face of the bolt circle where a mag style lug might could be
used if the vehicle
hub matched the wheel - this one does not match our Hubs.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> Ken,
>
> According to the guy at Eagle Wheels I spoke to the lug nuts:
>
> http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/
>
> Are for lug centered wheels and you don't need the 5.125 to 4.567 hub
> center reducer.
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76 Birchaven - New engine, trans, aluminum radiator, brakes, airbags, fuel lines, seats, upholstery, adult beverage center... those
Coachmen guys were
really thinking about us second hand owners...
Columbia, SC.
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who wantadifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #266132 is a reply to message #266126] |
Sat, 15 November 2014 15:03 |
kwharland
Messages: 246 Registered: November 2005 Location: Central Florida
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Well I see Joe has already posted a good picture of the lug hole in the wheel. You can clearly see the conical seat and yes Rob, I believe the person you spoke to did indeed get it wrong. The bore in the lug hole is 0.705 and the specs for the lug nut you provided a link for indicate their shank diameter is 0.800 so they would not fit in the hole.
I went so far as to measure the major and minor diameters of the conical seat in the wheel and cone of the lug nut and they match up very well.
In case you didn't hear that, I just breathed a huge sigh of relief!
1978 Eleganza II
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