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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who wantadifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #262964 is a reply to message #262929] Mon, 29 September 2014 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

Turns out that Eagle makes rings to reduce the ID of the center bore from 5.125 in to 4.567; they are Eagle P/N 130116 (130mm -
116mm). They are plastic and have a lip that goes into a chamfer on the back side of the wheel.

I have not addressed the hub cap / lug nut issue as of the moment because all I can find are chrome lug nuts and a hub cap that is
5.124 in OD.

BTW when I was talking to Eagle I asked about the max pressure and was told 80 psi. I asked why was the wheel marked with a lower
pressure and was informed "that's when mounting tires."

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I'm about to order a pair of these and may also have some rings fabbed up but wondering what are you planning to do for a center
cap?


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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who want adifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #262967 is a reply to message #262947] Mon, 29 September 2014 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Joe Weir wrote on Sun, 28 September 2014 19:21
I bought a couple of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201001540608

They mimic the alcoa center cap, but have a larger logo center area: 64mm versus 57mm for the alcoas. Still working on that part.

Since you'e not making bore spacer rings, those should work fine. I just was wondering what Rob was going to do since he intends to use bore spacers.

I do need to go open my Alcoa boxes and see what I bought with them.


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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who want adifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #262979 is a reply to message #262947] Mon, 29 September 2014 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Joe,
I can make the replacement logos for the centers
(with GMC on them) in just about any size that you want.

On 9/28/2014 4:21 PM, Joe Weir wrote:
> I bought a couple of these:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/201001540608
>
> They mimic the alcoa center cap, but have a larger logo center area: 64mm versus 57mm for the alcoas. Still working on that part.
>
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who want adifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #262990 is a reply to message #262979] Mon, 29 September 2014 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Awesome,

Can you do some that look like this in 64mm?

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDYwMA==/z/lZQAAOxyTyBSWPyK/$(KGrHqN,!o0FJPu)C0KHBSWPyKRIcw~~60_12.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDYwMA==/z/lZQAAOxyTyBSWPyK/$(KGrHqN,!o0FJPu)C0KHBSWPyKRIcw~~60_12.JPG

n6mon wrote on Mon, 29 September 2014 10:40
Joe,
I can make the replacement logos for the centers
(with GMC on them) in just about any size that you want.

On 9/28/2014 4:21 PM, Joe Weir wrote:
> I bought a couple of these:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/201001540608
>
> They mimic the alcoa center cap, but have a larger logo center area: 64mm versus 57mm for the alcoas. Still working on that part.
>
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who wantadifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #262996 is a reply to message #262964] Mon, 29 September 2014 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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USAussie wrote on Mon, 29 September 2014 05:42
...
I have not addressed the hub cap / lug nut issue as of the moment because all I can find are chrome lug nuts and a hub cap that is 5.124 in OD. ...


_IF_ these Eagle wheels are like the dually Eagle wheels I have, they are lug centered, requiring the "mag" style sleeved lug nuts. Last I heard, Jim K carries stainless steel versions of these lug nuts and washers. He even has the center covers in stainless. (Not cheap, but try and find a better price.... )
<http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/972>
If I lived in a less forgiving environment rust wise, I'd have already bought some.http://www.appliedgmc.com/products/full/972.jpg

While I am not a fan of the odd way that Eagle does the center cover (Putting a cheap chrome plated "tin" cover on TOP of a nice shiny aluminium wheel) with the non-hub centered wheels there s a better option. (IMHO) Put the cover BEHIND the wheel, letting the center cap show though the center hole.



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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who wantadifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #263008 is a reply to message #262996] Mon, 29 September 2014 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mike miller wrote on Mon, 29 September 2014 15:37
USAussie wrote on Mon, 29 September 2014 05:42
...
I have not addressed the hub cap / lug nut issue as of the moment because all I can find are chrome lug nuts and a hub cap that is 5.124 in OD. ...


_IF_ these Eagle wheels are like the dually Eagle wheels I have, they are lug centered, requiring the "mag" style sleeved lug nuts. Last I heard, Jim K carries stainless steel versions of these lug nuts and washers. He even has the center covers in stainless.
While I am not a fan of the odd way that Eagle does the center cover (Putting a cheap chrome plated "tin" cover on TOP of a nice shiny aluminium wheel) with the non-hub centered wheels there s a better option. (IMHO) Put the cover BEHIND the wheel, letting the center cap show though the center hole.


The Eagle wheels I have are lug centered, and the center caps from Weld are polished aluminum and come through from the back of the wheel.

Getting a set of those from Jim would have been much easier. Forget cost, its the convenience of one call, unless you just like the thrill of the hunt... Very Happy


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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who wantadifferentoffsetand alcoa styling without spacers? [message #263009 is a reply to message #262964] Mon, 29 September 2014 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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USAussie wrote on Mon, 29 September 2014 08:42
Ken,

Turns out that Eagle makes rings to reduce the ID of the center bore from 5.125 in to 4.567; they are Eagle P/N 130116 (130mm -
116mm). They are plastic and have a lip that goes into a chamfer on the back side of the wheel.

I have not addressed the hub cap / lug nut issue as of the moment because all I can find are chrome lug nuts and a hub cap that is 5.124 in OD.

Regards,
Rob M.

Thanks Rob, that's good to know about the spacers. Now for center caps...


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Re: Possible 16" wheel for those who want a different offset and alcoa styling without spacers? [message #263727 is a reply to message #255725] Tue, 07 October 2014 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess I should read things better before I place my order! I have ended up with two bags of 4 spacer rings each from Eagle thinking I was ordering 2 rings! I suspect it's not worth sending them back so if anyone is interested, drop me a note and we'll work something out.

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Re: [GMCnet] Possible 16" wheel for those who want a differentoffset and alcoa styling without spacers? [message #263752 is a reply to message #263727] Wed, 08 October 2014 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

Welcome to the club! I sent my eight back to Summit and got a refund.

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Rob M.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Harland

I guess I should read things better before I place my order! I have ended up with two bags of 4 spacer rings each from Eagle
thinking I was ordering 2 rings! I suspect it's not worth sending them back so if anyone is interested, drop me a note and we'll
work something out.



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Re: Possible 16" wheel for those who want a different offset and alcoa styling without spacers? [message #266034 is a reply to message #255725] Thu, 13 November 2014 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Update time...

Got my Alcoas for the rear and Eagles for the front along with spacers. Ordered a pair of 245/70 Dick Cepak tires and put 215/75 tires on the rear. Bolted everything up and made a few discoveries. As I reported elsewhere, I measured the flat area of the floating washer of the Alcoa nuts and find that it's the same diameter as the OEM nuts for steel wheels.

I also discovered that I can't use those nuts on the front Eagle wheels because the lug bolts are long enough, especially so if you use the Eagle spacers. Besides that, the counterbored hole is too large for the nut to have adequate area to clamp against. I now understand the picture posted earlier regarding 'mag style' nuts and washers.

So I've decided to take the simple route and just mount the front tires with the proper lugs nuts making those wheels lug-centered. Then I can also order a pair of the center caps noted earlier and all will be well.

Pictures to follow later. One thing for sure, those bright and shiny wheels make the rest of the coach cry out for attention. I guess I'll be painting in the near future as soon as I can enclose an area big enough to spray.


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Re: Possible 16" wheel for those who want a different offset and alcoa styling without spacers? [message #266052 is a reply to message #266034] Fri, 14 November 2014 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you are referring to the zero offset eagle front wheel that is lug centered, you will need conical style nuts.

There are several types of "mag-style" lug nuts.

The hub centered wheels use a lug nut that clamps with a flat face - the wheel is centered on the hub the nut just holds it down.

These eagle lug centered wheels use a conical seat lug nut - the clamping is done with an angled surface because it both centers the wheel on the lug circle as well as clamps the wheel to the hub. Should be available at your flaps, but our larger size lug thread can be hard to find at a good price.

I will leave it to the engineers on the list to argue why we are all going to die if we use one over the other... Very Happy


kwharland wrote on Thu, 13 November 2014 20:59
Update time...

Got my Alcoas for the rear and Eagles for the front along with spacers. Ordered a pair of 245/70 Dick Cepak tires and put 215/75 tires on the rear. Bolted everything up and made a few discoveries. As I reported elsewhere, I measured the flat area of the floating washer of the Alcoa nuts and find that it's the same diameter as the OEM nuts for steel wheels.

I also discovered that I can't use those nuts on the front Eagle wheels because the lug bolts are long enough, especially so if you use the Eagle spacers. Besides that, the counterbored hole is too large for the nut to have adequate area to clamp against. I now understand the picture posted earlier regarding 'mag style' nuts and washers.

So I've decided to take the simple route and just mount the front tires with the proper lugs nuts making those wheels lug-centered. Then I can also order a pair of the center caps noted earlier and all will be well.

Pictures to follow later. One thing for sure, those bright and shiny wheels make the rest of the coach cry out for attention. I guess I'll be painting in the near future as soon as I can enclose an area big enough to spray.



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Joe Weir wrote on Fri, 14 November 2014 07:24
If you are referring to the zero offset eagle front wheel that is lug centered, you will need conical style nuts.

There are several types of "mag-style" lug nuts.

The hub centered wheels use a lug nut that clamps with a flat face - the wheel is centered on the hub the nut just holds it down.

These eagle lug centered wheels use a conical seat lug nut - the clamping is done with an angled surface because it both centers the wheel on the lug circle as well as clamps the wheel to the hub. Should be available at your flaps, but our larger size lug thread can be hard to find at a good price.

I will leave it to the engineers on the list to argue why we are all going to die if we use one over the other... Very Happy
Thanks Joe, I was aware of the correct lug nuts and have a nice chrome set on the way courtesy of Amazon at the reasonable price of $1.40 each. And it doesn't take an engineer to grasp that if those wheels are used within their rated specifications, then the style of lug nut they were designed for will be adequate.


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G'day,

According to Eagle Wheel you need these type of lug nuts:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/

for

American Eagle Wheel

PART # SIZE FINISH PATTERN Lug Type OFFSET BSM CAP # LOAD SHIP WT.
0589-7788 16x7 Polished 8 on 6.5 Acorn +8 mm 4 1/4 N/I 3040 lbs. 21 lbs.

Available from Summit Racing:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-0589-7788/overview/


Regards,
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426



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Joe Weir wrote on Fri, 14 November 2014 07:24
> If you are referring to the zero offset eagle front wheel that is lug centered, you will need conical style nuts.
>
> There are several types of "mag-style" lug nuts.
>
> The hub centered wheels use a lug nut that clamps with a flat face - the wheel is centered on the hub the nut just holds it down.

>
> These eagle lug centered wheels use a conical seat lug nut - the clamping is done with an angled surface because it both centers
the wheel on the
> lug circle as well as clamps the wheel to the hub. Should be available at your flaps, but our larger size lug thread can be hard
to find at a good
> price.
>
> I will leave it to the engineers on the list to argue why we are all going to die if we use one over the other... :d
Thanks Joe, I was aware of the correct lug nuts and have a nice chrome set on the way courtesy of Amazon at the reasonable price of
$1.40 each. And
it doesn't take an engineer to grasp that if those wheels are used within their rated specifications, then the style of lug nut
they were designed
for will be adequate.

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kwharland wrote on Fri, 14 November 2014 07:50
Joe Weir wrote on Fri, 14 November 2014 07:24


I will leave it to the engineers on the list to argue why we are all going to die if we use one over the other... Very Happy
Thanks Joe, I was aware of the correct lug nuts and have a nice chrome set on the way courtesy of Amazon at the reasonable price of $1.40 each. And it doesn't take an engineer to grasp that if those wheels are used within their rated specifications, then the style of lug nut they were designed for will be adequate.


Your previous post about the flat faced lug nuts had me thinking you were trying to use them on the lug centered rim. Just trying to help.


The last line was a poor attempt at humor - I was referring to the hub vs lug centered debate.


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USAussie wrote on Fri, 14 November 2014 16:59
G'day,

According to Eagle Wheel you need these type of lug nuts:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/

for

American Eagle Wheel

PART # SIZE FINISH PATTERN Lug Type OFFSET BSM CAP # LOAD SHIP WT.
0589-7788 16x7 Polished 8 on 6.5 Acorn +8 mm 4 1/4 N/I 3040 lbs. 21 lbs.

Available from Summit Racing:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-0589-7788/overview/


Regards,
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Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


Color me confused. These are the wheels I purchased which were the ones someone posted a link to earlier in this thread.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aew-0589-7788

See down the page for this detail...

"Lug Nut Seat Style: Conical seat - 60 degree"


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USAussie wrote on Fri, 14 November 2014 15:59
G'day,

According to Eagle Wheel you need these type of lug nuts:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/

for

American Eagle Wheel

PART # SIZE FINISH PATTERN Lug Type OFFSET BSM CAP # LOAD SHIP WT.
0589-7788 16x7 Polished 8 on 6.5 Acorn +8 mm 4 1/4 N/I 3040 lbs. 21 lbs.

Available from Summit Racing:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-0589-7788/overview/


Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426





The link takes me to this:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/aew-acl8894_w_ml.jpg

But the wheel is listed as having a conical seat:

Lug Nut Seat Style: Conical seat - 60 degree

Which would look like this:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/RNB-611-204_ml.jpg





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Ken,

Don't blame you for being confused the info provided on the Summit page is INCORRECT;

"Lug Nut Seat Style: Conical seat - 60 degree"

I called Eagle Wheels and spoke to one of their tech support guys and they said to use:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Color me confused. These are the wheels I purchased which were the ones someone posted a link to earlier in this thread.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aew-0589-7788

See down the page for this detail...

"Lug Nut Seat Style: Conical seat - 60 degree"


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USAussie wrote on Fri, 14 November 2014 18:24
Ken,

Don't blame you for being confused the info provided on the Summit page is INCORRECT;

"Lug Nut Seat Style: Conical seat - 60 degree"

I called Eagle Wheels and spoke to one of their tech support guys and they said to use:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

Well if that's the case, I have a problem! I just sent back the hub spacers and ordered center caps that fit through the hole! I can't wait to get to my facility in the morning and take a look at those wheels! This sucks!


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Ken,

According to the guy at Eagle Wheels I spoke to the lug nuts:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/

Are for lug centered wheels and you don't need the 5.125 to 4.567 hub center reducer.

Do me a favor take a close up photo of the lug nut holes and if you have a vernier measure the OD of the stud holes.

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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Well if that's the case, I have a problem! I just sent back the hub spacers and ordered center caps that fit through the hole! I
can't wait to get to my facility in the morning and take a look at those wheels! This sucks!

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Most all "aftermarket" rims are lug centric and most people who use them
have no idea what lug or hub center means. "Hub center" is for heavy
trucks and these folks don't sell that much to heavy trucks. I have tried
all sorts of wheels, have an account with American Eagle and have tried
several different of their rims. The thing about the adapters is my truing
machine uses the hub to center so I need the adapters to run my machine
then installing the rims, the adapter rings assure the lugs line up the rim
properly. It really crates a lug and hub center situation. Someone may
have mentioned this before-- just too many posts to scratch through. The
Eagles are over $100 less per rim than our gone but beloved Alcoas, a case
where progress improves us. I like the fact that the Eagles Jim has are
designed to fit properly without "adapters" and -- yea here I go again---
keeps it in the family.

No matter what side of t5he fence you're on we all benefit from helping the
community. If you don't think so one day you will understand.

Jim Bounds

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:

> Ken,
>
> According to the guy at Eagle Wheels I spoke to the lug nuts:
>
> http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/aew-acl8898/overview/
>
> Are for lug centered wheels and you don't need the 5.125 to 4.567 hub
> center reducer.
>
> Do me a favor take a close up photo of the lug nut holes and if you have a
> vernier measure the OD of the stud holes.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Harland
>
> Well if that's the case, I have a problem! I just sent back the hub
> spacers and ordered center caps that fit through the hole! I
> can't wait to get to my facility in the morning and take a look at those
> wheels! This sucks!
>
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