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| Re: [GMCnet] Engine rebuilt but never started in 5 plus years [message #246870 is a reply to message #246868] |
Wed, 09 April 2014 08:45   |
jhbridges
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I'm with you. Oil it up and spin it, and then crank it. If it will run long enough to run in the cam and lifters, and then pull the coach without smoking or knocking or other histrionics and holds good pressure hot both at idle and road speeds, I'd go ahead and run the thing. If you're really paranoid about it, yank it and simply send it as a core to Bounds or Patterson or Mondello for a GMC specific build.
--johnny
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From: Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Engine rebuilt but never started in 5 plus years
Ok another Norwegian way..
Option one is to tear it apart and check every part of the engine, good enouch but I would wait with that.
Does it turn ? as long as it is not frozen there is hope, out with the spark plugs and poor in a small amount of ATF (even crc or wd40 will do).
Then change the engine oil, leave the filter in place, take out the distributor and use a drill to prime it while a friend turns the cranck slowly by hand for 10 minutes or so.
Then mount the distributor and spark plugs, add some fresh gas, check oil level and try to start it, do not rev it, just keep it at 1000 rpm or so.
If it runs with no funny sounds after 5 minutes stop it and change oil ond filter, then do a regular run in on the cam and lifters, 20-30 minutes at 2000-2500 rpm, still no funny sounds ? change oil and filter again and you are done.
If it is frozen or you had any funny sounds, tear it down and repair.
To this day I never had a problem with starting up an engine as long as it has been turning, one had been sitting for over 15 years, the last one was Dobbelt trøbbel who had not been started since 2008.
In my mind you have nothing to loose, why tear down a good engine ? if it is bad you will know within an hour and you would have to repair it anyways..
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1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Mean Green Machine
And A 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel
in Norway
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| Re: Engine rebuilt but never started in 5 plus years [message #246933 is a reply to message #246755] |
Wed, 09 April 2014 19:06 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| Ultravan Owners wrote on Tue, 08 April 2014 07:49 |
Hello Everyone and Especially Engine Builders, 
If you were looking to buy an engine or a coach that had a rebuilt engine, built by an unknown builder which also sat for 5 plus years and has never been started:
(Questions)
1) What would be your concerns?
2) What would you look for?
3) And how would you value or adjust your offer due to too many unknowns? (What precent of money spent would you honestly be willing to offer.)
I know what my concerns would be. However, I like to hear from you. (Your Answer) A-1, A-2, & A-3 to help make it easier to follow.
Thank You, Tony
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Lot's of war stories but no answers. Let's try it this way:
1) Was the engine really rebuilt and was it any good even before storage. Was the engine prepped for storage
2) receipts
3) -$5000
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: Engine rebuilt but never started in 5 plus years [message #246977 is a reply to message #246933] |
Wed, 09 April 2014 22:12 |
Ultravan Owners
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| Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 09 April 2014 20:06 |
| Ultravan Owners wrote on Tue, 08 April 2014 07:49 |
Hello Everyone and Especially Engine Builders,
If you were looking to buy an engine or a coach that had a rebuilt engine, built by an unknown builder which also sat for 5 plus years and has never been started:
(Questions)
1) What would be your concerns?
2) What would you look for?
3) And how would you value or adjust your offer due to too many unknowns? (What precent of money spent would you honestly be willing to offer.)
I know what my concerns would be. However, I like to hear from you. (Your Answer) A-1, A-2, & A-3 to help make it easier to follow.
Thank You, Tony
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Lot's of war stories but no answers. Let's try it this way:
1) Was the engine really rebuilt and was it any good even before storage. Was the engine prepped for storage
2) receipts
3) -$5000
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1) All I know is that it was rebuilt by a known builder of the owner.
2) Yes I have a copy of the recript for $3,200 in 2008 when the rebuilt was done.
Now the Odd part about the reciept:
It shows all part numbers listed - BUT NOT for the Valves, Camshaft or Pistons. Those three items are listed without part numbers and simply with the word and price i.e. Valves $160, Camshaft $189 and Pistons $294.
BTW - Nowhere could I find a set of 8 Pistons for under $500.
I find this odd - as I use to run my own repair biz and I would list all part numbers, not some here and there. That way I would know what part shop reciept they went to for book keeping and what warranty those parts had; along with other reasons too.
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Engine rebuilt but never started in 5 plus years [message #247023 is a reply to message #247017] |
Thu, 10 April 2014 13:14 |
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Totaly agree with Jim, if it is not in the coach open it, tought it was installed.. 
| Jim Bounds wrote on Thu, 10 April 2014 19:56 |
That's why I say if the motor is on the ground take it apart and see what you have. You never know and the labor to slam that thing in the coach is excessive. Don't put your install labor at risk-- pull the motor down and be sure...
Had a Cady motor here for s couple of years someone had built, he finally got it out of my hair-- sold it and the new owner put it in only to find out it had a cam for a racecar in it-- would not work in the motorhome!
Jim Bounds
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On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:22 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM> wrote:
Chr$ wrote on Wed, 09 April 2014 08:07
> Why would someone spend all that time and money, and never start it? Is it really rebuilt or just repainted???
> 
I think that is buried in this whole scenario.
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Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel
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