| Re: Tires [message #246193 is a reply to message #246005] |
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Cadillackeeper
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Nice Price on those Deestones they are same price as the Transforce for me.Anyhow its a killer semi truck tire.Not a passenger car radial.I think they call it bias ply.10
of them and an E rating.
77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #246215 is a reply to message #246172] |
Wed, 02 April 2014 18:06 |
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USAussie
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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David,
I agree, if someone that rents one of your GMC suffers a blowout of an old tire it won't be good for business!
Don Adams in Dallas is going to drive his GMC over to Southwest Wheel, remove a front wheel and try their wheel; however, I just
realized he may have a problem. He bought the coach that Arch built which has 80mm calipers on the front wheels.
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/commodore/front_brake/index.html
I have been working with Bob Dunahugh and Tom Whitton and we've discovered there are at least two different 80mm calipers, the ones
that Tom has won't clear the 16" wheel, the ones that Bob has will clear the wheel with a bit of grinding on the mounting tabs.
Photos of 80mm calipers on the Napa website appear to be ones that will fit the 16" wheels without grinding:
http://tinyurl.com/k8dy855
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Caliper-w-Hardware-Left-Front-Eclipse-Semi-Loaded-Remfd/_/R-SEBSE4633_03332
10511
http://tinyurl.com/l55c6gr
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Caliper-w-Hardware-Right-Front-Eclipse-Semi-Loaded-Remfd/_/R-SEBSE4632_0333
210490
I understand that you wouldn't bother upgrading to 80mm calipers but if any of the GMC's you own has had that mod and has the same
calipers that Tom has it is quite possible that the Southwest 16" wheel won't fit.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: David Gourdine
Safety is my main motivator. If it was just me driving I wouldnt have an issue risking the used, old tire. But last year I had a
unit out in the desert and the front tire just exploded. Luckily there was no one near it but it was a tire that appeared to have no
side or tread separation. In the last month I have bought almost a dozen used tires and once mounted they all were crap. I just feel
like Im throwing $$$ away when I buy used. Those Southwest wheels have so many positives as they are new, look good and the price is
right at $40 each. I do not ever have any plans on upgrading to the 80mm brakes or rear disc due to the fact that there is so little
actual use put on them per year. I know that if I go with these off brand 16.5 Thai tires That they could be complete crap but at
the very minimum I need to tire up 8 units for the trip out west. And I agree that who knows what is going to be available in
another 5 years. I have 3 units now with Alcoas and would love to convert them all some time in the future but the fact is replacing
all the reefers or adding swamp coolers is a better selling point and not shiny wheels that are just going to get dusty anyway. 'Ive
got one more tough year financially and cash flow will be much better once the land is paid and the improvements are done this year
(well and solar). I can feel critical mass approaching as I started with 4, added last year and will have 18 or 19 this year. I
think I can double one more time to 40 units by next year but after that I cant fathom doubling again. My goal was 50 in 5 years and
it appears that I will reach that. Now I think to my self that any upgrades are then times 50 gets me anxious and stresses my wife
out to no end. She doesnt even want to hear about them anymore. Thanx to all and I really appreciate the input
Thanx. David
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #246227 is a reply to message #246215] |
Wed, 02 April 2014 20:32 |
mickeysss
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It could be that most all the 16 inch steel rims would fit the rear wheels. This being possible it would be advantage
to keep the 16.5 on the front only and 16 on the rear. This would keep the gas mileage up a little and the speed the same
at the rpm as normal. it would be ok to only have a spare on the back that is 16.5 inch rim that way it would work as a spare
with the 16 inch in the rear on either side and the front propulsion tires. I think you could mix the rear tires 16 and 16.5.
this would mean you need only 4 16 inch rims per vehicle and 2 16.5 rims per vehicle. This could be a good design?
latter if you want you could change them all to 16 inch. but you could put new tires on the front and used on the rear
for you only go about 30 miles each way per year. mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm playa
hope my joke about the names was funny. if not sorry. :-) best regards. I will take 4 X 16 inch rims if you do this.
On Apr 2, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> David,
>
> I agree, if someone that rents one of your GMC suffers a blowout of an old tire it won't be good for business!
>
> Don Adams in Dallas is going to drive his GMC over to Southwest Wheel, remove a front wheel and try their wheel; however, I just
> realized he may have a problem. He bought the coach that Arch built which has 80mm calipers on the front wheels.
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/commodore/front_brake/index.html
>
> I have been working with Bob Dunahugh and Tom Whitton and we've discovered there are at least two different 80mm calipers, the ones
> that Tom has won't clear the 16" wheel, the ones that Bob has will clear the wheel with a bit of grinding on the mounting tabs.
>
> Photos of 80mm calipers on the Napa website appear to be ones that will fit the 16" wheels without grinding:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/k8dy855
>
> http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Caliper-w-Hardware-Left-Front-Eclipse-Semi-Loaded-Remfd/_/R-SEBSE4633_03332
> 10511
>
> http://tinyurl.com/l55c6gr
>
> http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Caliper-w-Hardware-Right-Front-Eclipse-Semi-Loaded-Remfd/_/R-SEBSE4632_0333
> 210490
>
> I understand that you wouldn't bother upgrading to 80mm calipers but if any of the GMC's you own has had that mod and has the same
> calipers that Tom has it is quite possible that the Southwest 16" wheel won't fit.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Gourdine
>
> Safety is my main motivator. If it was just me driving I wouldnt have an issue risking the used, old tire. But last year I had a
> unit out in the desert and the front tire just exploded. Luckily there was no one near it but it was a tire that appeared to have no
> side or tread separation. In the last month I have bought almost a dozen used tires and once mounted they all were crap. I just feel
> like Im throwing $$$ away when I buy used. Those Southwest wheels have so many positives as they are new, look good and the price is
> right at $40 each. I do not ever have any plans on upgrading to the 80mm brakes or rear disc due to the fact that there is so little
> actual use put on them per year. I know that if I go with these off brand 16.5 Thai tires That they could be complete crap but at
> the very minimum I need to tire up 8 units for the trip out west. And I agree that who knows what is going to be available in
> another 5 years. I have 3 units now with Alcoas and would love to convert them all some time in the future but the fact is replacing
> all the reefers or adding swamp coolers is a better selling point and not shiny wheels that are just going to get dusty anyway. 'Ive
> got one more tough year financially and cash flow will be much better once the land is paid and the improvements are done this year
> (well and solar). I can feel critical mass approaching as I started with 4, added last year and will have 18 or 19 this year. I
> think I can double one more time to 40 units by next year but after that I cant fathom doubling again. My goal was 50 in 5 years and
> it appears that I will reach that. Now I think to my self that any upgrades are then times 50 gets me anxious and stresses my wife
> out to no end. She doesnt even want to hear about them anymore. Thanx to all and I really appreciate the input
> Thanx. David
>
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| Re: Tires [message #246341 is a reply to message #246005] |
Thu, 03 April 2014 22:04 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| BRDRVR wrote on Tue, 01 April 2014 08:54 |
Do I need a 10ply tire? I am converting all my units to 16" tires and trying to find the cheapest out there. Once installed these units will be traveling a max of 75miles a year and never get above 30mph. They are going to rot off before the tread wears away. If Ive got to go with 10ply the even with a fleet account at tire rack Im looking at a $100. With the cost of the wheel and shipping and mounting Im not saving that much over just biting the bullet and buying Firestone 16.5 transforce @ 154. Im just looking for a way to not spend $19k on tires. Am I fighting an unwinable battle here?
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You will be fine.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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